@Cherryturbo I personally think it's 'fun' to analyze these types of things like DR and understand their inner workings but that's just me plus how would you identify bugs if you don't look at these things.
Perhaps I should have clarified.I personally think it's 'fun' to analyze these types of things like DR and understand their inner workings but that's just me plus how would you identify bugs if you don't look at these things.
I for one agree with your statements. I have to say that since I gave up on watching my DR I have much more.fun in the races.Perhaps I should have clarified.
Im not saying that there isn’t a place for detailed analysis, I’m just not convinced that “Daily Race Discussion” is that place. If you do find what you believe to be a bug then there is another thread that you can use to report such.
Yeah that's a fair point when I was reading comments on the topic I didn't think it didn't belong here. I guess that's what moderators are forPerhaps I should have clarified.
Im not saying that there isn’t a place for detailed analysis, I’m just not convinced that “Daily Race Discussion” is that place. If you do find what you believe to be a bug then there is another thread that you can use to report such.
I don't think it doesn't belong here, but I personally wish for more stories about the adrenaline and the fun in the racesYeah that's a fair point when I was reading comments on the topic I didn't think it didn't belong here. I guess that's what moderators are for
Nice attitude. I agree with most of what you said but there are dirty drivers. People that will leave space only to hip check you off the track, people that will dive up the inside with absolutely no chance to make the corner without you being there as a deflector.If you get beat, stop crying about other people driving "dirty". I am absolutely sick of hearing that thrown at those of us with an S sportsmanship rating who have held it almost since day 1.
I had several people slam into me repeatedly at Spa. I don't know where they're getting in game credits, could be Spa, could be someplace else, but that's where I get mine. I am very confident in that track in the 911 RSR and the Loctite-Zexel GT-R plus many road cars. I use all of the track width unless I see someone close by. If I do, I let them run their race. It doesn't matter if I'm faster or better or just the opposite, they have an objective and who am I to stand in their way. If there's going to be a collision, I will ruin my own race if necessary to avoid it. AI or human, I treat everyone like that.
In any case, the worst offenders had the biggest mouths. I also had a problem with the officials, I'd been running the track offline over an hour with no penalties at all.
My in game name is M. Parker. If you don't like how I drive (S SR) then excuse yourself from any race you see me in, and if you have any complaints, I don't want to hear them.
Other than that, if we're getting too close on the track, make yourself seen. There is room for everyone and I will find it.
So what you're saying is, you only care about what can help you, and you don't want to hear about things that don't interest you.Personally, I don’t care about your ratings. I don’t care that your ratings went up or down. I just want some insight as to general car performance coupled with any driving insights that may assist my endeavours.
Daily Race Discussion is really one of the few places to discuss them - DR/SR don't get affected by anything else, other than World Series events and the like.Im not saying that there isn’t a place for detailed analysis, I’m just not convinced that “Daily Race Discussion” is that place.
I had an inexplicable drop in DR during that exact same time period. I stated P2, ended P3, and lost DR.That race I highlighted dropped me 14% points. How is that even possible?
Date | Week | DR | SR | DR % | % Diff | Race | Car | Start | End | CRB | FL | Comment |
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2023/08/26 10:06 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■____| 79.75% | -1.50 | B | Gr.3 | GR Supra Racing Concept '18 | 2 | 3 | | | I shouldn't have lost DR here, so I think I must have forgotten to record a race from last night. |
Date | Week | DR | SR | DR % | % Diff | Race | Car | Start | End | CRB | FL | Comment |
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2023/08/26 16:45 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■____| 82.00% | +3.75 | B | Gr.3 | RX-Vision | 2 | 1 | | | |
2023/08/25 07:45 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■_____| 75.00% | +2.75 | B | Gr.3 | GR Supra Racing Concept '18 | 2 | 2 | ✓ | | Un-effing-believable |
2023/08/26 10:06 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■____| 79.75% | -1.50 | B | Gr.3 | GR Supra Racing Concept '18 | 2 | 3 | | | I shouldn't have lost DR here, so I think I must have forgotten to record a race from last night. |
2023/08/25 15:45 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■____| 81.25% | +3.00 | B | Gr.3 | GR Supra Racing Concept '18 | 3 | 3 | ✓ | | |
2023/08/21 15:45 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■___| 86.50% | +3.00 | B | Gr.3 | R.S.01 GT3 '16 | 3 | 3 | | | |
2023/08/25 15:05 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■____| 78.25% | +3.25 | B | Gr.3 | GR Supra Racing Concept '18 | 3 | 4 | | | |
2023/08/23 07:25 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■___| 86.50% | +3.00 | B | Gr.3 | RX-Vision | 8 | 4 | | | |
2023/08/21 16:45 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■__| 88.00% | +1.50 | B | Gr.3 | R.S.01 GT3 '16 | 3 | 4 | | | |
2023/08/21 10:25 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■____| 82.00% | +1.50 | B | Gr.3 | R.S.01 GT3 '16 | 5 | 4 | | | |
2023/08/26 16:25 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■____| 78.25% | +1.25 | B | Gr.3 | RX-Vision | 4 | 6 | | | |
2023/08/21 13:45 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■___| 83.50% | +1.50 | B | Gr.3 | R.S.01 GT3 '16 | 4 | 6 | | | |
2023/08/26 14:04 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■_____| 77.00% | +1.00 | B | Gr.3 | GR Supra Racing Concept '18 | 7 | 7 | | | Gotta improve my QT |
2023/08/22 14:45 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■___| 83.50% | +0.00 | B | Gr.3 | R.S.01 GT3 '16 | 7 | 8 | | | |
2023/08/26 13:44 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■_____| 76.00% | -3.75 | B | Gr.3 | GR Supra Racing Concept '18 | 8 | 10 | | | Tough Lobby |
2023/08/23 11:25 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■___| 84.25% | -2.25 | B | Gr.3 | RX-Vision | 9 | 13 | ✓ | | |
2023/08/24 19:31 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■______| 72.25% | -6.00 | B | Gr.3 | RX-Vision | 3 | DNF | | | Eff every single person in this race!!! |
2023/08/23 14:49 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■____| 78.25% | -6.00 | B | Gr.3 | RX-Vision | 3 | DNF | | | MAN I SUCK!!! |
2023/08/22 09:25 | 2023-34 | B | S | |■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■___| 83.50% | -4.50 | B | Gr.3 | R.S.01 GT3 '16 | 10 | DNF | | |
I like it. I don't see any other Vettes in race though so there's thatI need to download your race tracker GrunpyOldMan but does it work on phones or laptops only?
Genuine question I've used mainly the 650S, GTR which at first I didn't like but as I've got smoother with the controller it's not bad, AMG GT3 16, Supra on a couple of races but nothing else, how's the Corvette? The 911 RSR seems to be popular but I want to try some new cars, what's peoples preferred car?
Mazda RX Concept has been the fastest for me by some distance.I need to download your race tracker GrunpyOldMan but does it work on phones or laptops only?
Genuine question I've used mainly the 650S, GTR which at first I didn't like but as I've got smoother with the controller it's not bad, AMG GT3 16, Supra on a couple of races but nothing else, how's the Corvette? The 911 RSR seems to be popular but I want to try some new cars, what's peoples preferred car?
I'll give it a go, that and the Mustang seem to be the least popular cars for some strange reason.I like it. I don't see any other Vettes in race though so there's that
I've contemplated giving the RX a go but haven't because of a daft reason because it's not a real car/race car.Mazda RX Concept has been the fastest for me by some distance.
Aye and the sound is horrific but when you see the time start falling off you can get used to itI've contemplated giving the RX a go but haven't because of a daft reason because it's not a real car/race car.
Yeah it's one noisy car but I'll give it a run, I try a new car and go quicker and then get complacent with where to put it in each corner, gear etc. And then feel like my consistent times become slower.Aye and the sound is horrific but when you see the time start falling off you can get used to it
I've noted the Ford GT40 being more common in the last few races as well, perhaps worth a run out, I haven't done so myself yet.
EDIT on your comment above, the Mustang isn't a real car either, I appreciate it is coming but the one in the game certainly isn't a real GT3 racer, is that not counted the same as the Mazda then?
True for me too, although I have to run TCS at 3 because I need the training wheels.Mazda RX Concept has been the fastest for me by some distance.
Well, if you want to think about it, none of the cars are real. It's a game. But of course I understand what you meant.I've contemplated giving the RX a go but haven't because of a daft reason because it's not a real car/race car.
Computers only - Windows and Mac.I need to download your race tracker GrunpyOldMan but does it work on phones or laptops only?
Don't worry, I won't hold it against you.It looks like GranTracker keeps track of more parameters, but I'm just keeping track of my DR progressions.
That is true, I should have said based on real cars 😁 I'll give them all a go, what's there to loose when someone uses my rear bumper as a brake.True for me too, although I have to run TCS at 3 because I need the training wheels.
Well, if you want to think about it, none of the cars are real. It's a game. But of course I understand what you meant.
Computers only - Windows and Mac.
Don't worry, I won't hold it against you.
I'll have a look at the Kudos Prime and see which looks like the best fit for me, thanks for the info muchly appreciated 👍Got my last 3 races for this week's offerings in at Spa this morning.
Q3 to P3
Q5 to P4
Q4 to P5
Mostly uneventful, but I binned it in sector 2 in the last race to give up a P4 finish.
In race 2, I was holding 3rd up until the last turns in lap 4 but gave up the position to an A+ driver instead of trying to defend and likely losing more positions. Turned out that P1 to P3 were occupied by all A+ drivers in that one, so a 4th place finish was good enough for me.
@MillerGT not to take away from @GrumpyOldMan and his GranTracker, but what I'm doing to track my progression is using Kudos Prime. I take a screenshot of my profile page after each race, I have it set to auto upload to the PS app and I download the photo from there onto my phone and subsequently upload it to Kudos Prime. Super simple.
It looks like GranTracker keeps track of more parameters, but I'm just keeping track of my DR progressions.
I think we recognize our own shortcomings. We try to be the best driver out there but there are many of us that are still progressing and learning. I certainly drive a lot better than I did six months ago when I was a nooby but I recognize that sometime I cause the mayhem, though always by accident and misjudging a situation and never intentionally. I think we want to call out dirty drivers when we see them as an example of how not to drive and also bemoan the fact that when there are dirty (or just unskilled) drivers around you sometime it can be a challenge to have a clean race and drive cleanly yourself. Someone hits you with a side glance, sends you wobbly, you recover but doing that you lose speed and hit someone else with your front. In the SR system you're now that bad guy. The SR system doesn't seem to penalize for side hits; which I think is wrong.As someone who is most definitely guilty of the “why me” attitude on occasion, I do feel that sometimes we fail to see the shortcomings of our own performance whilst focussing on being unfairly treated by either/both the game and/or other racers.
Despite contradictory remarks to the the opposite, we all have too much focus on DR / SR ratings. Not so much in general but specifically our own.
Too many people here are championing these ratings as insignia of ability. They are simply a reflection of:
a) How fast you can get from start to finish. (DR)
b) How you managed to do so whilst respecting fellow racers who are trying to do the same. (SR)
Whilst I fully appreciate people wishing to either celebrate their successes or bemoan their failures, do we really need to have pages upon pages of mathematical evidence regurgitated here?
Personally, I don’t care about your ratings. I don’t care that your ratings went up or down. I just want some insight as to general car performance coupled with any driving insights that may assist my endeavours.
Everyone seems to have forgotten the basic understanding that if your DR goes up, it’s because you finished in front of more folks than finished in front of you. likewise if your SR goes down, it is because you have breached acceptable standards. Yes there may be some anomalies and yes you may be the occasional victim of those.
Ratings fixation has ruined Sports Mode for me and, I suspect, others. What about how cool the scenery was or how diverse everyones liveries are? What about the glorious soundtrack of 16 car engines as we all pull away?
Nope, none of that.
Just mathematical details regurgitated in ever finer detail. People so consumed by ratings that alts are now created in order to protect the ratings of main accounts. People wondering wether it’s worth racing if their ratings or statistics don’t improve.
Let’s just get back to what it should be. Fun.
@Cherryturbo I personally think it's 'fun' to analyze these types of things like DR and understand their inner workings but that's just me plus how would you identify bugs if you don't look at these things.
Are you referring to my 14% DR drop post? That was more a question of how might that happen as I have never seen anything like it before. I don't think anyone else was using DR to search for bugs. If not my post what was the example?Perhaps I should have clarified.
Im not saying that there isn’t a place for detailed analysis, I’m just not convinced that “Daily Race Discussion” is that place. If you do find what you believe to be a bug then there is another thread that you can use to report such.
I'm all for stories. I used to do some write ups on races but I thought people were getting tired of them so I mostly stopped.I don't think it doesn't belong here, but I personally wish for more stories about the adrenaline and the fun in the races
So nice of you. Please drive with SR B and SR C drivers. Trust me, you will start crying of dirty drivers. There's some real chads out there.If you get beat, stop crying about other people driving "dirty". I am absolutely sick of hearing that thrown at those of us with an S sportsmanship rating who have held it almost since day 1.
The last two days I have been suffering a lot from the hip check and corner deflector crowd. Will post a video later.Nice attitude. I agree with most of what you said but there are dirty drivers. People that will leave space only to hip check you off the track, people that will dive up the inside with absolutely no chance to make the corner without you being there as a deflector.
And hitting people side to side doesn't give SR down. So plenty of them are SR99 and remain that way
I think you must be right in that PD did a mass reset of some sort because if you got this and I did around the same time perhaps it happened to everyone.Other than that one race, the only time I lost DR was when I finished P10 or higher. So I think PD did something, although I have no idea what.
I've just finished a race, no issues for me in the UK.Just to know: any European server users having issues? Just got kicked off a race with an error that I’ve never had, my connection is fine…I was 5th
Thanks, Just tried the :30 race and had the same issue ufffffffI've just finished a race, no issues for me in the UK.
Well I say no issues, except for my fellow racers!Thanks, Just tried the :30 race and had the same issue ufffffff
American server but I have noticed issues popping a few times this week, like stutters, and cars zooming past their braking points only to return to their positions a few seconds later. The worst one being- I was given chase cam view of the pole sitter (not me) for a lap. Absolutely none of my controls worked. I kept watching helplessly until the game kicked me out straight to Sport page without any error code. Resulted in DR reduction. Can't say about SR as it stayed S but I might have been at 99% SR before the race.Just to know: any European server users having issues? Just got kicked off a race with an error that I’ve never had, my connection is fine…I was 5th
I’m afraid of trying again cause I was almost B and now I’m low CAmerican server but I have noticed issues popping a few times this week, like stutters, and cars zooming past their braking points only to return to their positions a few seconds later. The worst one being- I was given chase cam view of the pole sitter (not me) for a lap. Absolutely none of my controls worked. I kept watching helplessly until the game kicked me out straight to Sport page without any error code. Resulted in DR reduction. Can't say about SR as it stayed S but I might have been at 99% SR before the race.
Yes I have seen that today but it has not affected the racing. What I have seen are a lot more racers from South America today and some race B lobbies that weren't full.Has anyone else noticed that on Sundays, on the US servers, we seem to get yellow connection bars more often than other days of the week? It could just be my imagination, but I've been thinking about this for months. Or maybe it's just confirmation bias on my part.
I've often wondered if PD pulls a few servers offline to start setting up the next week, but I suspect that's ridiculous.
Not a server issue but on one of my races I lost wheel controls just upon entering Eau Rouge. Not good! I was a victim of the dreaded Fanatec DD axle drift issue. Second time I have had to reseat it in the 6 weeks I've had it (and four weeks I've been able to play with it). Pretty bad QC by Fanatec there.American server but I have noticed issues popping a few times this week, like stutters, and cars zooming past their braking points only to return to their positions a few seconds later. The worst one being- I was given chase cam view of the pole sitter (not me) for a lap. Absolutely none of my controls worked. I kept watching helplessly until the game kicked me out straight to Sport page without any error code. Resulted in DR reduction. Can't say about SR as it stayed S but I might have been at 99% SR before the race.