GT7 Daily Race Discussion
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Somebody please help me out. I don't know how to tune cars to be competitive in Daily B. PD kinda forgot that not all of us are tuners.
I was hoping to find Praiano's setup for the Mazda3 Gr.4 but he only has the base model setups and I don't think those would work well on it.
EDIT: with those values (minus the front natural frequency, cause it can't get lower than 2.50) and BB -4 (like in all previous Gr.4 races involving the Mazda3) I get 1:37.626
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I was hoping to find Praiano's setup for the Mazda3 Gr.4 but he only has the base model setups and I don't think those would work well on it.
EDIT: with those values (minus the front natural frequency, cause it can't get lower than 2.50) and BB -4 (like in all previous Gr.4 races involving the Mazda3) I get 1:37.626
PRAIANO'S TUNES : SETTINGS FOR GT7
Nissan 180SX Type X '96 - 700PP - Racing Hard Tires - All Track - SWAP - 1.34
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May well have turned the corner on Interlagos...I actually had a good day there.🤣
Took the dog for a walk early Sunday and was thinking what the hell, why not run a couple races. It's early (7:00AM EDT) so I might not bleed THAT bad. Ended-up being some great racing and I FINALLY figured the track out after all these years. There were a couple incidents with some folks trying to spike other drivers into another dimension at turn 1/2/3, and then trying for anyone they missed in 4. Was able to avoid most of the carnage, and avoided adding to the equation, so was a great day at the course. Also netted my closest finish EVAR:
That was a nail-biter, too. Picked up a .5 sec penalty on the last lap...all I could do was watch them get bigger and bigger in the rearview. Leapt off the couch when the results popped-up...love that the racing is that engaging.😁 Anyway, I had a couple podiums, no wins and only ONE DFL. Total victory lap around the ottoman for that.
Am off today so was running Spa for a while. Love. This. Track. Gr.3's are a great fit here and the Porsche does well enough. I really wish they'd give that 15hp back that they BoP away so I didn't get walked by Supras in the straights but, well, yeah.
The tuning options this week make me wish I would have taken notes over the last month...ooops. Matters not, though, as someone posted this handy link back on p.846 or something: Praiano's Tuning Bible
I used that tune as a base, misremembered the settings and ended up with something I really, REALLY like.🤣 One question I do have for the hive-mind, has anyone verified that you NEED to tune to be competitive? Seems to be some angst around it even being available and was curious how much it actually even mattered. We've been racing for ages without it so, if you like the car the way it was/is, why mess with it? Given the available tuning options I can see this being more of a benefit for the top-tier drivers. For us non-aliens, though, I'd think it still comes down to consistency to pick up positions, not damper settings. For those who don't want to 'waste the time' tuning, I really don't think you need to. Unless this is a FOMO thing, you're going to be just as competitive as you were before. If I'm off-base here, please let me know.👍
I'd imagine PD is walking a tightrope with the settings. Some of their base wants tuning, some want simplicity. Tough to meet in the middle on that but, and if you choose the right parameters to mess with, I can see where you'd be able to meet both sides half-way. Just sucks seeing people put off and NOT racing, especially if they are doing so on the false pretenses, so wanted to check on that.
Took the dog for a walk early Sunday and was thinking what the hell, why not run a couple races. It's early (7:00AM EDT) so I might not bleed THAT bad. Ended-up being some great racing and I FINALLY figured the track out after all these years. There were a couple incidents with some folks trying to spike other drivers into another dimension at turn 1/2/3, and then trying for anyone they missed in 4. Was able to avoid most of the carnage, and avoided adding to the equation, so was a great day at the course. Also netted my closest finish EVAR:
That was a nail-biter, too. Picked up a .5 sec penalty on the last lap...all I could do was watch them get bigger and bigger in the rearview. Leapt off the couch when the results popped-up...love that the racing is that engaging.😁 Anyway, I had a couple podiums, no wins and only ONE DFL. Total victory lap around the ottoman for that.
Am off today so was running Spa for a while. Love. This. Track. Gr.3's are a great fit here and the Porsche does well enough. I really wish they'd give that 15hp back that they BoP away so I didn't get walked by Supras in the straights but, well, yeah.
The tuning options this week make me wish I would have taken notes over the last month...ooops. Matters not, though, as someone posted this handy link back on p.846 or something: Praiano's Tuning Bible
I used that tune as a base, misremembered the settings and ended up with something I really, REALLY like.🤣 One question I do have for the hive-mind, has anyone verified that you NEED to tune to be competitive? Seems to be some angst around it even being available and was curious how much it actually even mattered. We've been racing for ages without it so, if you like the car the way it was/is, why mess with it? Given the available tuning options I can see this being more of a benefit for the top-tier drivers. For us non-aliens, though, I'd think it still comes down to consistency to pick up positions, not damper settings. For those who don't want to 'waste the time' tuning, I really don't think you need to. Unless this is a FOMO thing, you're going to be just as competitive as you were before. If I'm off-base here, please let me know.👍
I'd imagine PD is walking a tightrope with the settings. Some of their base wants tuning, some want simplicity. Tough to meet in the middle on that but, and if you choose the right parameters to mess with, I can see where you'd be able to meet both sides half-way. Just sucks seeing people put off and NOT racing, especially if they are doing so on the false pretenses, so wanted to check on that.
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I can't say for sure about this week, but up until now when they've allow tuning in Race B, I ended up just ignoring the tuning and ran stock. And I've been doing just fine that way.
So my guess is, and remember that I haven't done this week's race yet, but I suspect if you can't keep up, it's not because of tuning. I'm no expert of course, but it seems to me that the kind of tuning they're allowing might make a difference in qualifying, but the race itself is more about dealing with the other racers, and driving good lines with good braking points.
It's human nature to assume the issue is something you don't understand (tuning), when in reality it's probably just the same problems we all have in learning to be competitive.
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This isn't gonna go down well....Somebody please help me out. I don't know how to tune cars to be competitive in Daily B. PD kinda forgot that not all of us are tuners.
I was hoping to find Praiano's setup for the Mazda3 Gr.4 but he only has is the base model setups and I don't think those would work well on it.
EDIT: with those values (minus the front natural frequency, cause it can't get lower than 2.50) and BB -4 (like in all previous Gr.4 races involving the Mazda3) I get 1:37.626
PRAIANO'S TUNES : SETTINGS FOR GT7
Nissan 180SX Type X '96 - 700PP - Racing Hard Tires - All Track - SWAP - 1.34
But I consistently place in the top 1000 or 500 or even 100 not doing tuning or brake balance
Honestly even in race trim I don't touch the settings. I tried. It made zero difference.
Maybe and just maybe the digit or kies of the world go faster.
But realistically the time you need to improve is probably more technique based rather than tuning based mate.
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GrumpyOldMan
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After my first race at RBR this week, I stand by my previous comments, which pretty-much mirror what @newmedia_dev said: Ignore the tuning stuff unless you just enjoy that stuff, or you're good enough to really notice the difference.
My QT of 1:36.595 had me starting P2, which is where I finished.
I was about 4 seconds behind P1, which was to be expected because believe me, the Mazda drives differently with cold tires and a full gas tank (as would any car, of course). It'll take me awhile to get used to the differences.
For most of the race I was about 4 seconds ahead of P3, which meant that by the start of lap 5, I wasn't focusing very well, and it almost cost me. Still held on to win by a half second, but it wasn't pretty by any stretch of the imagination.
As for DR, here we go again, back up to DR A, probably for a day or two.
I know how nasty this course can get when you start back in the pack, so I'm cringing at the thought of where the next lobby will place me.
My QT of 1:36.595 had me starting P2, which is where I finished.
I was about 4 seconds behind P1, which was to be expected because believe me, the Mazda drives differently with cold tires and a full gas tank (as would any car, of course). It'll take me awhile to get used to the differences.
For most of the race I was about 4 seconds ahead of P3, which meant that by the start of lap 5, I wasn't focusing very well, and it almost cost me. Still held on to win by a half second, but it wasn't pretty by any stretch of the imagination.
As for DR, here we go again, back up to DR A, probably for a day or two.
I know how nasty this course can get when you start back in the pack, so I'm cringing at the thought of where the next lobby will place me.
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After a dozen or so races at interlagos last week, i figured out I just had to place my BB more rearward on my 911 to get most of the corner entry rotation I needed back. The rest came from switching from ABS-default to ABS weak.
I agree that tuning can be cumbersome, but as long as it’s kept at this current level, all it’s doing is bringing more cars into the fold, which is a good thing. Where you’ll see genuine differences in meta tunes, is when they open up all the options. Hopefully for our sake, they don’t do that
I agree that tuning can be cumbersome, but as long as it’s kept at this current level, all it’s doing is bringing more cars into the fold, which is a good thing. Where you’ll see genuine differences in meta tunes, is when they open up all the options. Hopefully for our sake, they don’t do that
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You don't need it as much as you think you do mate. It's a couple tenths max. I'm a completely stock car, no BB changes, at a 35.8 - with lots of room left on the table still.Somebody please help me out. I don't know how to tune cars to be competitive in Daily B. PD kinda forgot that not all of us are tuners.
I was hoping to find Praiano's setup for the Mazda3 Gr.4 but he only has the base model setups and I don't think those would work well on it.
EDIT: with those values (minus the front natural frequency, cause it can't get lower than 2.50) and BB -4 (like in all previous Gr.4 races involving the Mazda3) I get 1:37.626
PRAIANO'S TUNES : SETTINGS FOR GT7
Nissan 180SX Type X '96 - 700PP - Racing Hard Tires - All Track - SWAP - 1.34
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Check if you got your rim width changed. Some people did that with the RCR Civic at a recent TT at Tsukuba and it wouldn't turn properly. Try going back to default.
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I found during the Tsukuba time trial that the proper (fast) way to drive the car is to go really deep under braking, overslow the car, turn on a dime and then boot the gas (with TCS 1 of course.) Gained over a second and a half with that method as compared to taking a "proper" racing line.
Knowing the average GT7 online player though this will just get you rammed off the circuit by people trying to outbrake you.
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I'll be doing the Red Bull Ring this week as it's my favorite track to race at. I wasn't a fan of the new Mazda, but there is no way to not use it I think. I was chasing down one of my ghosts and it was way faster on the straights and than any car I was using. I have a time of 1:37.5XX so far and that might not get me up front on the grid. I'll try tomorrow and see if I can't get a few more tenths off of my time.
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Race A is hilarious! I jumped on quick and started to find some flow. No "friends" are on my leaderboard so I was comparing myself to global. First is was around 4000 then 2000 something, then 700, then 600, before I knew it I was in the top 250 and finished off at 125 in the world!
That is my personal all-time highest placement. I know it won't last but I'll revel in it while I can.
With that I thought I should jump in a race. Not surprisingly I qualified on pole, though P2 wasn't far behind, but in race I was fine. I got a little shaky on lap 2 that allowed P2 to get close but in the end it was a 6+ second win, fastest lap, pole and clean race!
Now if there were only DR points involved. I might do more races but as it is, it may be one and done. Tomorrow I'll practice for daily C. I hate Red Bull Ring with a malicious contempt so I'll avoid that one...
EDIT: Tips for race A if you are a Fanatec DD user. I changed my wheel sensitivity to 580 from AUTO and in game controlled sensitivity to 1. That allowed me to handle the hairpins and still shift gear without getting all crossed armed while not being too sensitive on the straights. All aids should be off and I had ABS at weak and brake force at 50 on the wheel settings. Use TCS 1 off the grid but then switch back to 0 as soon as you get moving. Coming out of corners I would pull at 50% throttle in 2nd, briefly and as it is still moderately wheel spinning, shift to 3rd at 80% thottle which will give you a kick, still wheelspin but as it bites then full throttle. On the down hill runs I will sometimes skip 2nd all together and go 1st > 3rd and on the uphill I would keep it longer in 2nd at reduced throttle. The shorter climbs I found it sometimes quicker just to wheel spin it up the hill in second at reduced throttle than pulling in 3rd with less spin but is slower to pick up. Anyway, your mileage may vary. Good luck! It's a riot; it's like a mini road rally.
That is my personal all-time highest placement. I know it won't last but I'll revel in it while I can.
With that I thought I should jump in a race. Not surprisingly I qualified on pole, though P2 wasn't far behind, but in race I was fine. I got a little shaky on lap 2 that allowed P2 to get close but in the end it was a 6+ second win, fastest lap, pole and clean race!
Now if there were only DR points involved. I might do more races but as it is, it may be one and done. Tomorrow I'll practice for daily C. I hate Red Bull Ring with a malicious contempt so I'll avoid that one...
EDIT: Tips for race A if you are a Fanatec DD user. I changed my wheel sensitivity to 580 from AUTO and in game controlled sensitivity to 1. That allowed me to handle the hairpins and still shift gear without getting all crossed armed while not being too sensitive on the straights. All aids should be off and I had ABS at weak and brake force at 50 on the wheel settings. Use TCS 1 off the grid but then switch back to 0 as soon as you get moving. Coming out of corners I would pull at 50% throttle in 2nd, briefly and as it is still moderately wheel spinning, shift to 3rd at 80% thottle which will give you a kick, still wheelspin but as it bites then full throttle. On the down hill runs I will sometimes skip 2nd all together and go 1st > 3rd and on the uphill I would keep it longer in 2nd at reduced throttle. The shorter climbs I found it sometimes quicker just to wheel spin it up the hill in second at reduced throttle than pulling in 3rd with less spin but is slower to pick up. Anyway, your mileage may vary. Good luck! It's a riot; it's like a mini road rally.
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Looks awesome. Lobbys for me don't work in GT7 and are totally glitchy. Something to do with cross platform play not working properly. Unless something has changed or improved in the last few weeks?
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Race C is pretty fun, I like how both tire compounds are mandatory which forces some strat. I didn't have a lot of time and logged in just in time to get in one quali lap before the race... I just happened to be in the NSX so run what you brung!
Put in a horrid quali lap and started P4, decided to go with the RMs to start. Lambo in P3 went wide through raidillon because Lambo. The next three laps P1 was getting away a little as a BWM and I had some good battles while trying to fend off a Supra behind who was on RS tires. On lap three the BMW & I both pit for RS and continued to battle for the next handful of laps. That was super fun as I was a bit quicker but catching vs passing and all that. We had a couple side-by-sides but it just wasn't going to happen so I'd back off. Meanwhile, on lap five the then leader pit for RMs; the BMW and I went by pulling off the undercut.
Going into lap seven I was getting ansey to get by as the NSX is pretty bad on tires, as many MR cars are. I guess the pressure got to him as going through "No Name" (T11) he went a bit wide and I was able to squeeze by. From there was able to hold on keeping ~1 second lead. Super fun race, mainly because of the strat and finding a clean driver to battle with for the whole thing.
Put in a horrid quali lap and started P4, decided to go with the RMs to start. Lambo in P3 went wide through raidillon because Lambo. The next three laps P1 was getting away a little as a BWM and I had some good battles while trying to fend off a Supra behind who was on RS tires. On lap three the BMW & I both pit for RS and continued to battle for the next handful of laps. That was super fun as I was a bit quicker but catching vs passing and all that. We had a couple side-by-sides but it just wasn't going to happen so I'd back off. Meanwhile, on lap five the then leader pit for RMs; the BMW and I went by pulling off the undercut.
Going into lap seven I was getting ansey to get by as the NSX is pretty bad on tires, as many MR cars are. I guess the pressure got to him as going through "No Name" (T11) he went a bit wide and I was able to squeeze by. From there was able to hold on keeping ~1 second lead. Super fun race, mainly because of the strat and finding a clean driver to battle with for the whole thing.
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Also having quite some fun with Race C. I haven't done any Daily Races since 3 weeks ago but i tried this one yesterday and had a lot of fun. A lot of people doing different strats. I vouched to never touch any race with Gr.4 though.Race C is pretty fun, I like how both tire compounds are mandatory which forces some strat. I didn't have a lot of time and logged in just in time to get in one quali lap before the race... I just happened to be in the NSX so run what you brung!
Put in a horrid quali lap and started P4, decided to go with the RMs to start. Lambo in P3 went wide through raidillon because Lambo. The next three laps P1 was getting away a little as a BWM and I had some good battles while trying to fend off a Supra behind who was on RS tires. On lap three the BMW & I both pit for RS and continued to battle for the next handful of laps. That was super fun as I was a bit quicker but catching vs passing and all that. We had a couple side-by-sides but it just wasn't going to happen so I'd back off. Meanwhile, on lap five the then leader pit for RMs; the BMW and I went by pulling off the undercut.
Going into lap seven I was getting ansey to get by as the NSX is pretty bad on tires, as many MR cars are. I guess the pressure got to him as going through "No Name" (T11) and I was able to squeeze by. From there was able to hold on keeping ~1 second lead. Super fun race, mainly because of the strat and finding a clean driver to battle with for the whole thing.
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The stupid BoP plus a few idiots that deciding to punish me for mistakes others made resulting in contact made me quit a race for the first time in at least a year. The top end of DR A is just so chock full of desperation. I get it, we all want to win and getting into DR A+ is awesome (I can't believe I ever made it there myself), but learn to take an L when a move doesn't work, or you don't know what happened in a corner. I'm deliberately bleeding DR now just so that I can have some cleaner, more enjoyable racing.
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I just used it for Daily B last night for the first time and I couldn't believe it. I tried the AMG I've been using in manufacturer's quite successfully and it was all I could do to stay out of last place for two races. Even getting a run on someone out of the last corner, solidly in the slipstream, they still gained 2-3 tenths down the front straight!
Switched to the Mazda and went from finishing near last and struggling, to finishing 5th, 5th, 7th (intentionally rammed out of 2nd in the penultimate corner), 1st, 1st to finish out the night. Absolutely absurd difference.
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You didn't do Laguna or the time trial with it.....
It's op that makes a mockery of BOP quite honestly. Makes other cars not viable, when the TT,NSX,650, supra should compete even the 155 (long straights though) and Ferrari but realistically they can't.
I get the new car bop bounce but it's silly now.
