GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[newmedia_dev]

For B the only thing I have been able to beat my Porsche time was.....

I have tried the GT40 II, the 650, the Mazda Vision and the NSX. The NSX and 650 I can get within 2/10s but the 4C so far is the only thing I have been able to beat my previous best in the Porsche.

 

[Dep Fishtail]

For B the only thing I have been able to beat my Porsche time was.....

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I have tried the GT40 II, the 650, the Mazda Vision and the NSX. The NSX and 650 I can get within 2/10s but the 4C so far is the only thing I have been able to beat my previous best in the Porsche.

I’m still searching for a bit faster time too. Tried Peugeot vgt, RCZ and GT but 911 is faster by .2 for me.
Stuck at 1:27.6 and only good for Q8-Q9 starting position in 6 races I tried so far. Good racing so far so I can’t complain. 👍

Never even tried the 4c so maybe it’s worth a look. 👀

 

[newmedia_dev]

This is why it's not going to be a good week for me, I know I know I should be PMA but sometimes the gods are against you.



Edit:

Even ninja like skills aren't going to anticipate that guy hitting the barrier like that, the guy in front of me and me were collateral damage at that point. But clearly nobody was deliberately making contact with anyone and the thing that boils my P a bit is that the carnage causer didn't even get the barrier penalty!

Edit 2:

I'd really appreciate your perspective @Tidgney clearly not a bad driving incident but overall how the penalties work in instances like this. I appreciate you are busy but if you do get time it would be interesting to know what you think.

 

[Kriptical]

I'll be doing some racing at Interlagos this week as it's track I do enjoy racing at. It wasn't at first, but it grew on me overtime. But, before all of that I think I figured out why I'm not a quick as I could be. I found a random YouTube video explaining how by turning the steering wheel too much creates under steer. Which I've been doing with out even realizing I was doing it since I've started playing GT Sport. Plus, easing into the throttle is making a huge difference so far. I had no idea I was doing it until I watched the video. I'll post it below for those who want to watch it.

So, I started in the Huracan as I'm familiar with the car and set a time of 1:39.7XX after slowly figuring out that I was making myself under steer and making corrections on the fly. I then switched to the McLaren and have a time of 1:39.9XX so far. I'm going to turn more laps in the McLaren and see what I can do.

When i complain about gt7’s implementation of wheel sdk’s it’s precisely this which my gripes center on. Irl, when we scrub the wheels like this there are vibrations and oscillations as the tire rubber first bends, then scrubs, and soon after your tires start making noise. Its this part of finding the limit while driving that ive always loved because its always there. Whether your driving box trucks or 911’s, the satisfaction of getting right up to whats capable is to me, the joy of driving.
..and kinda what i thought i was getting when spending on fanatec. After weeks, maybe months now of messing with the wheel and going out on carriage roads at about 75%, ive given up on the search for those feels and have gone with wheel weight to convey things. Its cool. Doesn’t mess with my irl reactions too much, which is key. Love those carriage roads, but they demand respect else they chuck you into a creek, or a oak/rock…if your lucky a field lol..

Anyway, sorry for the ramble whine. Good video. Definitely something everyone can find some usefulness both in game and irl.

 

[newmedia_dev]

When i complain about gt7’s implementation of wheel sdk’s it’s precisely this which my gripes center on. Irl, when we scrub the wheels like this there are vibrations and oscillations as the tire rubber first bends, then scrubs, and soon after your tires start making noise. Its this part of finding the limit while driving that ive always loved because its always there. Whether your driving box trucks or 911’s, the satisfaction of getting right up to whats capable is to me, the joy of driving.
..and kinda what i thought i was getting when spending on fanatec. After weeks, maybe months now of messing with the wheel and going out on carriage roads at about 75%, ive given up on the search for those feels and have gone with wheel weight to convey things. Its cool. Doesn’t mess with my irl reactions too much, which is key. Love those carriage roads, but they demand respect else they chuck you into a creek, or a oak/rock…if your lucky a field lol..

Anyway, sorry for the ramble whine. Good video. Definitely something everyone can find some usefulness both in game and irl.

The way GT does feed back is odd, at brands there were clear points where deliberately understeering briefly were faster for me. But in terms of the progressive grip loss for Front wheel drive cars it's more about lightness yet oversteer is all about the noise, you here it then you feel it in the wheel.

And to a degree that probably makes sense as the rear axel loads up and then you over power the LSD but there must be a better way to communicate this stuff other than rumbles and slip noise.

Edit:

The feel, is what makes hire cars that much faster or back in the day taking your mums shopping car out vs something like your knackered golf GTi on semi fast road stuff. They are both fun but the way the rubber meets the road feel very very different.

 

[guitargeek]

Are you short-shifting the 650? In the top-time replays that I've watched, the drivers are shifting at around 75% of the max.

I'm currently working on testing all the Gr.4 cars in anticipation of the next season of the Manufacturers Cup. I've been able to get an optimal lap time of 1:38.670 out of the McLaren over 3 laps, but was faster in the V8 Vantage (1:38.476), Silvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car (1:38.487), SLS AMG (1:38.563), and NSX (1:38.575). You might want to give one of those a try.

Nice list, several of the top ones a mirroring my experience from last night too (I tried 458, 650S, AMG, and NSX). I found the best pace with the NSX and it was the only one I could lap in the 1:39's during the race. The 650S had the best tire wear which helped the last lap or two, but I'm just not as familiar with the car so I wasn't getting quite the same pace from it as others.

 

[TheNormsk]

Are you short-shifting the 650? In the top-time replays that I've watched, the drivers are shifting at around 75% of the max.

I'm currently working on testing all the Gr.4 cars in anticipation of the next season of the Manufacturers Cup. I've been able to get an optimal lap time of 1:38.670 out of the McLaren over 3 laps, but was faster in the V8 Vantage (1:38.476), Silvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car (1:38.487), SLS AMG (1:38.563), and NSX (1:38.575). You might want to give one of those a try.

Here are my results so far, for anyone who's interested:

Manufacturer	Model	Top speed (km/h)	Opt time
Aston Martin	V8 Vantage Gr.4	235	1:38.476
Nissan	Silvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car	235	1:38.487
Mercedes	SLS AMG Gr.4	235	1:38.563
Honda	NSX Gr.4	235	1:38.575
McLaren	650S Gr.4	235	1:38.670
Subaru	WRX Gr.4	234	1:38.734
Jaguar	F-type Gr.4	235	1:38.771
Lexus	RC F Gr.4	236	1:38.891
Ferrari	458 Italia Gr.4	237	1:38.936
Renault	Megane Gr.4	236	1:38.956
Nissan	GT-R Gr.4	235	1:38.990
Genesis	G70 Gr.4	232	1:38.999
Hyundai	Genesis Gr.4	235	1:39.045
Peugeot	RCZ Gr.4	236	1:39.054
Toyota	GR Supra Race Car '19	234	1:39.092
Ford	Mustang Gr.4	233	1:39.145
Audi	TT Cup '16	236	1:39.164
Mazda	Mazda3 Gr.4	239	1:39.216
Toyota	86 Gr.4	235	1:39.579
Mitsubishi	Lancer Evolution Final Gr.4	233	1:39.801
Alfa Romeo	4C Gr.4	232	1:40.065
Mazda	Atenza Gr.4	238	1:40.295
BMW	M4 Gr.4	226	1:40.448

Yes, I short shift. I pretty much follow the shifting strategy of the #3 driver in the world but just can't seem to figure out how to get it quicker than 1:39.4. I also tried the Silvia, NSX and 458. For me all seem to hit that 1:39.4 barrier. I then went mack to the Mazda 3 and annihilated my prior time. Got myself to a 1:38.633.

Not many of you on Race B yet.. Anyway, my time near top 2000 which is around my average best place I usually expect.

This was my lap performance chasing my earlier ghost.


I then switched to C...

For B the only thing I have been able to beat my Porsche time was.....

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I have tried the GT40 II, the 650, the Mazda Vision and the NSX. The NSX and 650 I can get within 2/10s but the 4C so far is the only thing I have been able to beat my previous best in the Porsche.

The 4C is often a favorite of mine ut I don't race it as I find it slow on most tracks. I should try this here.

I tried a few cars but the only one I am comfortable with and have pace with is the Ford GT. Got myself to a 1:27.821 but I am still quite mistake prone. I think there is another .3s in me yet..

@newmedia_dev I need you on my friends list so I can chase down your time..

 

[newmedia_dev]

Yes, I short shift. I pretty much follow the shifting strategy of the #3 driver in the world but just can't seem to figure out how to get it quicker than 1:39.4. I also tried the Silvia, NSX and 458. For me all seem to hit that 1:39.4 barrier. I then went mack to the Mazda 3 and annihilated my prior time. Got myself to a 1:38.633.
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Not many of you on Race B yet.. Anyway, my time near top 2000 which is around my average best place I usually expect.
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This was my lap performance chasing my earlier ghost.


I then switched to C...

The 4C is often a favorite of mine ut I don't race it as I find it slow on most tracks. I should try this here.

I tried a few cars but the only one I am comfortable with and have pace with is the Ford GT. Got myself to a 1:27.821 but I am still quite mistake prone. I think there is another .3s in me yet..

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@newmedia_dev I need you on my friends list so I can chase down your time..

You don't even have to short shift coming out of the Senna Esses you need to be in forth.

It's an odd track which I don't particularly like the feel of on my wheel, it's such a rough circuit with constant camber I am definitely not racing it this week.

I did probably 100 laps behind Kies ghost and this was the best I could do....not invested in this one to be honest.

I have a video of being first corner destroyed on daily B but I'm hesitant to post it because we all make first lap mistakes etc.

Absolutely add me gcooley66 just for perspective I have both of KarHals accounts and nebu on my leaderboard so we are all chasing upwards that is for sure!

and those guys are freaking fast.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Tried a few races (Interlagos) on new account to fine tune my DD Pro and also FFB/FFS sensitivity before trying to climb back into an A-rated DR on Main, with some success 😂 Average gap to P2 at the end of both races was around 41 sec... I think from tomorrow will go back to racing exclusively on main account and give it a go.

McLaren all the way, -2 brake bias and pit for tires on lap 6.

Qualy time below:

 

[newmedia_dev]

Tried a few races (Interlagos) on new account to fine tune my DD Pro and also FFB/FFS sensitivity before trying to climb back into an A-rated DR on Main, with some success 😂 Average gap to P2 at the end of both races was around 41 sec... I think from tomorrow will go back to racing exclusively on main account and give it a go.

McLaren all the way, -2 brake bias and pit for tires on lap 6.

Qualy time below:


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Make hay! Make hay friend!

 

[cyirush]

After a decent week at Sardegna - 4 podiums, lots of good racing - really struggling for pace at Interlagos. Keep messing up the line in the Senna esses and losing lots of time.

And making silly mistakes like getting pit lane penalties!

Also is it just me or have B/S lobbies gotten more competitive? No room for error; one mistake and you lose lots of places.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Also is it just me or have B/S lobbies gotten more competitive? No room for error; one mistake and you lose lots of places.

The level has moved up in B and A lobbies, not so much QT sometimes but race pace is definitely at the sharper end especially compared to the custom car races recently.

Haven't done a C race but have an excellent time B even a good competitive time is a real struggle even from pole.

Deep forest seems to bring out the first corner heroes en masse.

Edit:
My rage at daily B is both my own and more about the 15 people behind me. I don't like either of these races so I'm out. The rig can gather dust until next year now.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I don't like either of these races so I'm out. The rig can gather dust until next year now.

Who's kidding who? You're as addicted as I am - probably more so. Let us know how you like withdrawal symptoms! (just kidding... well, maybe not kidding, but meant in good fun for sure) If you hold on, though, I hope your holidays are as happy as they can be.

 

[TheNormsk]

I figured out some of my 650S performance issues. While short shifting was okay, if I was doing one thing majorly wrong, it was that I was down shifting too much. I needed to keep the car in a gear higher than I thought. Looking at @TechnoIsLove replay helped me figure that out. With that I chopped .3s off my lap. But then I hit a plateau again. I went back to downshifting to 3rd for turn 1 rather than keeping it in 4th and some other strategic down shifts and I got sub 1:39. But I was still plateauing.

Then I realized I was driving a line like I had learned for the Mazda 3 and chasing my ghost was reinforcing that bad habit as I needed a new line. I loaded up the highest place replay for the 650S from the leaderboard, switched off my ghost and within a few tries I'd taken a second off yesterday's performance. I think the biggest thing was the line abusing track limits at turn 8 and also tweaking entry into turn 11.



So I now have a 1:38.456 and that includes a less than clean first sector that has a potential 2 tenths more..

Not many of you on C this week. Guess it is not popular.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I finally found a car I felt comfortable in at Race B - the Huracan, so I thought I'd give the race a shot. Started P4 which wasn't too bad.

Holy... crap! These people are out for blood! This isn't racing, it's bumper pool. There's no pretense of driving cleanly - force your way through no matter what.

What a poor excuse for racing.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

I figured out some of my 650S performance issues. While short shifting was okay, if I was doing one thing majorly wrong, it was that I was down shifting too much. I needed to keep the car in a gear higher than I thought. Looking at @TechnoIsLove replay helped me figure that out. With that I chopped .3s off my lap. But then I hit a plateau again. I went back to downshifting to 3rd for turn 1 rather than keeping it in 4th and some other strategic down shifts and I got sub 1:39. But I was still plateauing.

Then I realized I was driving a line like I had learned for the Mazda 3 and chasing my ghost was reinforcing that bad habit as I needed a new line. I loaded up the highest place replay for the 650S from the leaderboard, switched off my ghost and within a few tries I'd taken a second off yesterday's performance. I think the biggest thing was the line abusing track limits at turn 8 and also tweaking entry into turn 10.



So I now have a 1:38.456 and that includes a less than clean first second that has a potential 2 tenths more..
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Not many of you on C this week. Guess it is not popular.

My biggest issue is turn 6 and 7 - no real idea how to take them and I have even been 0.4s faster than my current PB as somehow I lose all of it there! Tried staying in 5th/ downshifting to 4th as I take the first turn/ even quickly going down to 3rd and back to 4th to turn in better but still cannot find any consistency!

On another setup of my DD Pro, I complete Sector 1 in 24:4 regularly but then lose time in sectors 2 and 3. I'm 0.6s slower in sector 1 with the current setup but make that up throughout the rest of the lap and feels like the best balance I have so far over a lap or race...

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

My biggest issue is turn 6 and 7 - no real idea how to take them and I have even been 0.4s faster than my current PB as somehow I lose all of it there! Tried staying in 5th/ downshifting to 4th as I take the first turn/ even quickly going down to 3rd and back to 4th to turn in better but still cannot find any consistency!

On another setup of my DD Pro, I complete Sector 1 in 24:4 regularly but then lose time in sectors 2 and 3. I'm 0.6s slower in sector 1 with the current setup but make that up throughout the rest of the lap and feels like the best balance I have so far over a lap or race...

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Where'd you get the map?

 

[A_Higher_Place]

Soooo... anyone have any riveting races in that prius?

 

[Barney Da Dog]

I really enjoy driving Interlagos but until recently I'd never managed any decent results.

I was trying to improve my time on Race C in the McLaren 650. I did about 10 laps in the mid to high 1:38s then I somehow did a 1:37.7. Which was weird as it didn't seem very quick - I think all the time was gained attacking turn 2 through to 3, and then being very early on the power at t13. I was changing at around 50-60% throttle.

Edit/ 37.7 had me on pole in high B/low A - leading the first race and my screen decides to disconnect. Next race, a good lead again, and my elderly neighbor comes looking for help - ah well🙄 better luck later hopefully

 

[ILLEAGLE_34]

Soooo... anyone have any riveting races in that prius?

I did one and it was electric! 😬 I'll show myself out now🍻

 

[Stilva]

No races for me tonight as I wanted to get some more practice in with the McLaren. And boy howdy did I make good with it.
I followed the things @TheNormsk did in their post, and holy cow! I felt the car got through the corners so much better and felt so much quicker than before.

I was stuck at a 1:39.2XX for a while and I had an awesome lap going. But I crossed the line near the pit entrance and got an off track penalty and I took a break to relax. In my final few laps I set a time of 1:39.053! Obviously I'm beyond ecstatic with that time and I think a 1:38 is possible. We'll see what happens tomorrow against other drivers and I hope to get some good racing in.

 

[24HuresdeLoL]

I tell you, the A+/A/B Daily C races at Interlagos are a shark tank if you qualify 6th on back. Even with the first race I did with a pretty decent car like the NSX, the Ferrari's, 650S' and GR Supra's are just brutally dominant.


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[TheNormsk]

I tried to warm up for racing C and unlike earlier in the day where I thought I’d figured it out, no I just suck tonight. Can’t get a single car below 1:39 and most laps I’m going backwards in qt.

Confidence broken.

Edit: found out my oil was bad in my 650 S. I changed that and I’m now a second lap quicker again. I didn’t think oil mattered in fair race/BoP. 🤷🏼‍♂️

 

[Hiropairippu]

I tried to warm up for racing C and unlike earlier in the day where I thought I’d figured it out, no I just suck tonight. Can’t get a single car below 1:39 and most laps I’m going backwards in qt.

Confidence broken.

Edit: found out my oil was bad in my 650 S. I changed that and I’m now a second lap quicker again. I didn’t think oil mattered in fair race/BoP. 🤷🏼‍♂️

The oil change was probably just a placebo effect.
Have a try at the Alfa 4C. Its great on tyres. Not outright fastest but you can do 11 qually style laps with confidence in that car of about 1.38.7s the whole race.

 

[TheNormsk]

The oil change was probably just a placebo effect.
Have a try at the Alfa 4C. Its great on tyres. Not outright fastest but you can do 11 qually style laps with confidence in that car of about 1.38.7s the whole race.

Thanks I’m going to give that a try. I need to try something else. Otherwise I’m going to give up for this week.

I just did two races, and in both races I came dead last. The first race was a B rated lobby and I made mistakes and I got hit multiple times, some dare I say dirty driving, pushed off track and got multiple penalties. Any penalty is a killer.

Second race was with mostly A drivers That was much cleaner, with better pace, but 3 penalties killed me.

For now I don’t like race C.

Edit. I tried. Can’t find pace. Best was around 1:39.5 which is over a second slower than the 650S.

 

[TheNormsk]

I'm officially done with C. Not trying that again.

So I thought I would give B a try before I give up on the week. I was a little apprehensive as Deep Forest does not have the best reputation but I load it up with 2 minutes to go, so no warm up!

Oh what a race! It has restored my faith!

I'm 3rd at the start and I'm rolling down the straight before the lights change and I'm thinking to myself, I have no idea where to brake for the first corner. This could be interesting 🫣 Turns out it was fine but the first lap was quite shaky as I tried to remember that the Ford GT drives quite differently with a full fuel load vs in QT trim. I pick up a track penalty after the bridge (as does 1st and 2nd in the first 2 laps) but I start to pull it together as I find my flow on lap 2. I get challenged by one of the few DR A drivers in a Supra later in the race and what followed is racing at its finest!

I'll let the video show the story rather than tell it.


Anyway got this.

Which helped brighten me after a dismal couple of weeks in the DR department.

I'm going to stick with B. Me and the Ford get along. Guess I am just a working class guy driving a working class car...

 

[Mert160]

Why is the BMW Gr4 so terrible in this game?

 

[Primmy]

I finally found a car I felt comfortable in at Race B - the Huracan, so I thought I'd give the race a shot. Started P4 which wasn't too bad.

Holy... crap! These people are out for blood! This isn't racing, it's bumper pool. There's no pretense of driving cleanly - force your way through no matter what.

What a poor excuse for racing.

i again moved from driver C to B last night running in Daily B...the races whilst in C were great, nice clean racing, giving space, no dive bombing, etc...a win and 3 podium finishes to move to B...Well...what can i say...Driver B races were appalling..bumped off in every race by either a dive bomber or just very poor driving etiquette, drivers ramming their way through in stupid places on the track..despite starting in top 10 positions i invariably ended up in 13/14 position..i cant see myself staying in B if this carries on this week

 

[newmedia_dev]

Why is the BMW Gr4 so terrible in this game?

I have wondered the same thing, not enough power, handling and it's not like it's any good at fuel saving or kind to the tires.

Really not sure why it included as the real life Touring Car counterpart is much more competitive than the game version.

 

[JustMac]

Interlagos is not it this week with C, I think with these tighter tracks more playful fuel/tyre arrangements would make the race a lot more interesting.

I might switch to Deep Forest for B later.