GTP_Registry Discussion Thread

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Hi Jerry,

Wrt OLR rules:
Sphinx
04: Pit Etiquette:
A: When you enter the pit-lane, .... pit-entry-line. PE-1b: ....

What does PE-1b mean. To clarify; I don't mean the text that follows after that, only the "PE-1b" part.

AMG.
 
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Hi Jerry,

Wrt OLR rules:


What does PE-1b mean. To clarify; I don't mean the text that follows after that, only the "PE-1b" part.

AMG.

Another invalid reference that we've caught and corrected in a background copy, along with some other adjustments that will soon be published.

We changed the organization structure of the doc at one point, and made a few errors in the process.

Thanks for helping us clean it up. 👍
 
That's what being a race driver is all about, virtual or real; endless practise and set-up tests to shave tiny fractions of seconds off your lap times. If you reach a level after hours of practise with one car and one track, you've found your "talent limit" with it... actually its a very good way of doing the qualifier and you will end up in the right division even if the competition seems daunting. Adapting to new courses and cars is part of the challenge and more hours of practise will bring you up to speed ;) And on it goes.. and on and on. :)

I just watched my replay again before my submission, to be sure. It's so much easier to see the smallest mistakes after some time out and by watching the replay.

Its all good fun eh?

Most of the time! I had another shot at beating my best time for a further hour and now feel well and truly tortured! Seems I can't quite beat it!

I think I've reached my limit! *fires off submission!*
 
EDK
Another invalid reference that we've caught and corrected in a background copy, along with some other adjustments that will soon be published.

We changed the organization structure of the doc at one point, and made a few errors in the process.

Thanks for helping us clean it up. 👍

👍

In that case .... at the end of 15D there's a superfluous [ / b] ;)

AMG.
 
Hi Sphinx,

Read through the rules, thanks to everyone for all the hard work you've put in. I do have one query though, as below:

04: Pit Etiquette: B: You have to stay on the same side of the track as the pit exit until the first corner.

They way I understood it was that as soon as you've reached the end of the white line that denotes the pit lane exit, the whole width of the track then becomes the race circuit. This rule not only stops you covering your line into the corner should you wish to, but also compromises your racing line, giving a closing competitor a speed advantage over you through the corner and quite conceivably the following straight? Having raced previously using the end of the white pit lane marker as returning to the race circuit (as I would imagine others do), I can foresee quite a few people will fall foul simply because it goes against what I've thought to be generally agreed racing etiquette? Apologies in advance if I've misunderstood this and got wrong end of the stick.

Cheers,

Dom
 
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01.K - When for some reason I want to retire from a race, I usually head for the pits and wait there until the race ends. Sometimes, if I'm curious about the final classification, I park the car in the main straight near the start/finish line, on the grass, facing backwards. Both these attitudes, in my view, comply with this rule. However, if I press "start", as the rule clearly commands, I lose any control of what the car is doing, and it usually begins to move slowly. I'm sure you don't want this, so I'd like you to clarify on what we're supposed to do.

I didn't even know about the press Start option while on the track during an online race until I read these rules - I used to just pull off and put my foot on the brake until the race was over. If I pull off the track and press Start, I get a menu that pops up and the car comes to an absolute stop - odd that it would be different for another user - has anyone else tried to do this?
 
I didn't even know about the press Start option while on the track during an online race until I read these rules - I used to just pull off and put my foot on the brake until the race was over. If I pull off the track and press Start, I get a menu that pops up and the car comes to an absolute stop - odd that it would be different for another user - has anyone else tried to do this?

My experience has been the same as yours. But just to be sure, we added some language to the rule to ask that racers park to be sure they are out of the way and do not move.
 
I didn't even know about the press Start option while on the track during an online race until I read these rules - I used to just pull off and put my foot on the brake until the race was over. If I pull off the track and press Start, I get a menu that pops up and the car comes to an absolute stop - odd that it would be different for another user - has anyone else tried to do this?
What you describe is the same for me.

Note: Do not hit start while racing. I accidentally did that before even crossing the start line once and my car came to a complete stop. Two cars behind me hit me. It is a tad bit embarrassing to cause an accident before the race even starts.
 
Thanks for your replies, EDK and Hugo Boss. The Fuji example (about pit-entrance) is quite clear about what is expected behaviour according to the rule.

About the "Start" button vs.moving car issue, I may be wrong and if I am an apologize is due. Maybe I got confused with the same situation (parked car) and hitting the "PS" button. (leaving the game in the background and poping up the XMB interface).

I'll check this myself later, but after reading Linpark's, EDk's and Foolkiller's last posts I'd give it a 99% probability that I put up a stupid question. Sorry.
 
I can also confirm that hitting Start applies the handbrake (stops the car) (with spec III - not sure about previous versions)
 
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in section 11 'group battling' it says you can't bump someone else to get out of the situation. does this include bump drafting?
 
I:
Aggressive driving is strictly prohibited.

So we're just playing follow the leader & not racing?

Isn't the very definition of racing aggressive driving?
 
in section 11 'group battling' it says you can't bump someone else to get out of the situation. does this include bump drafting?

Bump drafting is prohibited by the rules as written.

We discussed allowing bump drafting, but decided not to allow it at this time, as it would require another set of regulations to clarify the differences between a friendly and helpful bump draft, and a bump too close to a corner which causes the recipient to miss their brake zone and crash.

This may be revisited at some point in the future, but for now it is not permitted.

So we're just playing follow the leader & not racing?

Isn't the very definition of racing aggressive driving?

The intent of this rule is to cover cases not explicitly covered in the other contact, positioning and corner rights rules. Questionable "barge" passes and failure to leave racing room are cases which might fall under this rule.

This rule is not intended to prohibit overtaking when it is safe to do so, nor "intimidation" caused by following more closely than the leading driver may be comfortable with.
 
L:
No careless driving. Always show respect for your fellow racers. Be careful. Show some patience. Understand the limitations of your car and yourself and drive accordingly. Driving online in a racing sim is NOT exactly the same as real life racing in every respect.

I would have also added: Understand the limitations of your car and yourself as well as the possible limitations of other cars on track and drive accordingly.

I've often raced online with inferior cars and am not to unfamiliar with people riding into the back etc due to not understanding things like braking distances differ from car to car etc
 
04.D - Unless we have voice chat, I don't see what kind of signal I can use to indicate to others that I'm going to enter the pitlane (apart from using a different racing line, acording to rule 04.A). Since you have far greater experience than most of us in online racing, could you tell us what kind of behaviour is expected to comply with this rule?

ManiacMoose is in the process of setting up a TS server so we can communicate. It's not perfect, but it's better than using hand signals nobody sees.
 
I gave the rules a read through last night & they seem all good to me. Only things I questioned were the bump drafting (which has now already been answered) & the aggressive driving bit. I can understand why bump drafting has been banned, at least for now, as although i sometimes do it, you're right, if people bump draft others too close to a corner it will cause an accident or at a minimum force the driver off track. As for the aggressive driving part, i believe it means you can still drive hard, but not to the extent of hitting other drivers off, using them as walls, cutting in front of others, etc. I think some people might have interpreted the aggressive driving rule as more of, follow the leader, no passing or touching of any kind type of thing, which is obviously wrong.

Anyway thanks to everyone who came up with the rules, you did a great job & hopefully this will lead to a better online racing experience 👍 :)
 
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I must say these OLR rules are very thouroughly put together! Good job from the OLR Admin Team. I agree with them. I'm sad to hear that bumpdrafting now is "illegal" (for the time being), but I can understand the reason to do so.
 
Perhaps bump drafting could be allowed for certain races in the future, such as a team race at daytona oval etc. In such cases it could be mentioned that it's allowed in the introduction to the thread about that race.
 
Perhaps bump drafting could be allowed for certain races in the future, such as a team race at daytona oval etc. In such cases it could be mentioned that it's allowed in the introduction to the thread about that race.

It was discussed, and it's a controversial subject. It would really only make sense at the oval. And that's exactly the only type of scenario it would work under, if drivers who trust one another team up.

Ultimately, we did not want to provide the open option of someone bumping other racers who may or may not appreciate it, so it's not in the rules.
 
When will be the next time to apply to the registry? Me, being the smart-not that I am, forgot to read the part of the rule:

Do not run this qualifier whilst Online. Any submitted time appearing on the Online Leaderboard will be rejected.
so now I'm on the leader boards :(
 
When will be the next time to apply to the registry? Me, being the smart-not that I am, forgot to read the part of the rule:
Do not run this qualifier whilst Online. Any submitted time appearing on the Online Leaderboard will be rejected.

so now I'm on the leader boards :(

You may still apply to the registry, but the lap which appears on the leaderboard will not be accepted. This means you must rerun the time trial while offline and use a time generated there.
 
Is this only for people NOT in the registry now or are we leveraging it somehow to also allow existing members to move up in the Divs? Looking at Race Event 1 I think some of the Div 2 folks need to move up into Div 1. :)
 
Is this only for people NOT in the registry now or are we leveraging it somehow to also allow existing members to move up in the Divs? Looking at Race Event 1 I think some of the Div 2 folks need to move up into Div 1. :)

As has historically been the case with WRS - If some drivers perform at a higher level than the other drivers in their division (Their times are competitive with the next division up) they will be moved up.

Sphinx also made this comment earlier in the thread -

The comparisons will be made with great difficulty. ;)

A selection of top drivers from each division will be invited to run the new qualifier and the comparisons will be made from that.

There may also be invites to those drivers who clearly ignored our advice and didn't give it their best shot in the last qualifier, and have thus ended up in the wrong division.
 
It's good to see that GTPlanet has the same ideals as the GRC. Good set of rules.
To bad that I don't have the time to race here atm.
 
hm, apologies if I get this wrong.

just a question, that is when the Registry is in 'open' status, does it mean that non-registered drivers like myself can take part in the event and get into the Registry by submitting the best lap?

correct me if I'm wrong.

TIA
 
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