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[shhiny48]

So, nobody here has heard about this?

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5882556#post5882556

 

[hampus_dh]

From what he's saying it seems the yearly subscription for $49 is for new members only, so if he'd just renew it he would pay full price. That's why he wants to create different accounts.

i see, makes perfect sense

 

[shhiny48]

This downtime is annoying.

 

[Dijital Majik]

Thanks to everyone who helped me on the last page, I just ended up signing up for a full year as $49 is really not that much anyway, and now I have no excuses not to get better.

Going through the install now, I'm sure I'll see you on track soon!

 

[Patrocles]

Thanks to everyone who helped me on the last page, I just ended up signing up for a full year as $49 is really not that much anyway, and now I have no excuses not to get better.

Going through the install now, I'm sure I'll see you on track soon!

WTG! welcome to iRacing.

 

[RACECAR]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5882556#post5882556

Ah, my mistake. Seems like Jav is the only one actually caring about it.

 

[Legendary]

Ah, my mistake. Seems like Jav is the only one actually caring about it.

We dont have to reply about it to care about it. I am glad that its coming, glad that iRacing has confirmed working on another car but until I can actually do something with it I am not bothered by it.

Its going for release next year, no point getting excited now in my opinion.

 

[sandboxgod]

Yeah I think it's very coo and all but I havent even seen ingame shots of it or anything.

 

[Dijital Majik]

WTG! welcome to iRacing.

Thanks!

Just had my first practise around Laguna Seca in an MX-5, and have to say it feels really comfortable, even if I have been running Laguna Seca on Netkar and rFactor for the last couple days solid. Reference points seem a little easier to nail consistantly for me in the iRacing version.

From not sure if I wanted to commit to a year before, I just went ahead and bought the Skippy, Suzuka and Watkins Glen to take advantage of the $15 free credit offer that's on until the 23rd.

I'm actually excited about how much there is to read and learn in the next few days. Good Times.

 

[RACECAR]

We dont have to reply about it to care about it. I am glad that its coming, glad that iRacing has confirmed working on another car but until I can actually do something with it I am not bothered by it.

Its going for release next year, no point getting excited now in my opinion.

I just thought with all the buzz I often see new cars generate, this would be no different.

 

[hampus_dh]

I don´t think it really is any different RACECAR, it´s just the layout of this thread that have 3-4 discussions going on at the same time and the fact that people have already read the news elsewhere, got happy about it then saw it here

I´m sure everyone realizes what car we are getting and how incredible it will be to drive and race with. The speed of it should be very good for close hard racing.

2.23´s i think it did at SPA 24H can´t remember exactly.
Anyone have a Ford GT2 time around SPA to compare?

 

[shhiny48]

I don´t think it really is any different RACECAR, it´s just the layout of this thread that have 3-4 discussions going on at the same time and the fact that people have already read the news elsewhere, got happy about it then saw it here

I´m sure everyone realizes what car we are getting and how incredible it will be to drive and race with. The speed of it should be very good for close hard racing.

2.23´s i think it did at SPA 24H can´t remember exactly.
Anyone have a Ford GT2 time around SPA to compare?

I would assume the McLaren would be a bit quicker since the Ford GT hasen't exactly been "quick" in really any series.

 

[Jav]

Ohh man! Don't get me started on the Ford GT! still not liking it! although I did have a lot of fun runing with Curtis at Road Atlanta the other night but couldn't put a complete fast lap together with my PB at about 2 secs slower than my Optimum...

 

[hampus_dh]

I would assume the McLaren would be a bit quicker since the Ford GT hasen't exactly been "quick" in really any series.

no im sure a quick driver in both cars will still have around 3-4 seconds a lap between them

afterall they are two different classes, GT2 vs GT3

im quick in the ford gt and actually like it
its a challenge for sure and demands a certain driving style.

 

[hampus_dh]

should also mention that the ford gt has been fairly quick in q sessions from time to time. at road atlanta last year it was only a couple of hundreds or tenths from the absolute fastest time set by on of the BMW's on Road Atlanta last year.

would love to have the bmw!! 7 poles in a row in ALMS!!

 

[Patrocles]

Thanks!

Just had my first practise around Laguna Seca in an MX-5, and have to say it feels really comfortable, even if I have been running Laguna Seca on Netkar and rFactor for the last couple days solid. Reference points seem a little easier to nail consistantly for me in the iRacing version.

From not sure if I wanted to commit to a year before, I just went ahead and bought the Skippy, Suzuka and Watkins Glen to take advantage of the $15 free credit offer that's on until the 23rd.

I'm actually excited about how much there is to read and learn in the next few days. Good Times.

FWIW..I'm still a new user, too, and I have read at the forums that if you do not take advantage of the current Credit offer that iRacing in past years also has similar offers in November(black Thursday after Thanksgiving holiday) and/or Christmas season.

A couple of good iRacing tips given to myself and all other rookies...
* Read the Sporting Code - IIUC the SC rules are mandatory for users when online at IRacing forums and driving events.
* Read the USer Guide and the most excellent (imho,ymmv) Beginner's Guide

http://members.iracing.com/membersite/member/instruction.jsp

* practice, practice, practice before joining an official race with other iRacers. This will increase your enjoyment and reduce any chance of ruining another iRacer's run. Time Trials are excellent for learning the track. Practice Sessions are excellent for running on the track with other iRacers since IIUC there are no deductions from your Safety Ratings for any incidents. A good suggestion the vets recommend is to not join an official iRacing race until you can do a full race distance solo or in Practice Session with very few or no incidents.

* have fun!!

 

[shhiny48]

no im sure a quick driver in both cars will still have around 3-4 seconds a lap between them

afterall they are two different classes, GT2 vs GT3

im quick in the ford gt and actually like it
its a challenge for sure and demands a certain driving style.

But, GT3 cars are technically faster right? Because I know that Super GT GT300 class cars are faster than GT2 cars and they are allowed running FIA GT3 spec cars there.

 

[hampus_dh]

No GT3 cars are slower then GT2 cars and GT2 cars are slower then GT1 cars

GT300 is quite a bit different then GT500 in terms of regulations.
It´s not as open as GT500 which are the fastest GT cars on the planet.

A good example is the ALMS Ferrari 458 GTPro (GT2) vs the GT3 run in europe and GT300.
GT4 is even slower and near stock basically but obviously with the safety treatments etc, M3 GT4 is a good example.

 

[shhiny48]

No GT3 cars are slower then GT2 cars and GT2 cars are slower then GT1 cars

GT300 is quite a bit different then GT500 in terms of regulations.
It´s not as open as GT500 which are the fastest GT cars on the planet.

A good example is the ALMS Ferrari 458 GTPro (GT2) vs the GT3 run in europe and GT300.
GT4 is even slower and near stock basically but obviously with the safety treatments etc, M3 GT4 is a good example.

Last time I checked the FIA GT3 Porsche's were faster than some of the GT2 times.

And specs for GT500 and GT300 are really simple. 1100kg's and around the 500HP range depending on what the series wants to do and then aero I have no idea how that works. GT300 is the same. 1100KG's and around 290-330HP.

I know how the GT1-4 system works but i've seen tons of GT3 cars be faster than GT2.

 

[hampus_dh]

Show us some numbers then.

GT500 is not "simple" because it´s extremely open in terms of regulations.
GT300 is not anywhere near as open in regulations as GT500.

You are Japanese you should know that.

 

[hampus_dh]

BMW Z4 GT3 FIA GT3 Qualifying 2 Silverstone 2011

• 2:03.042

BMW M3 GTE-Pro / GT2 Silverstone 6 hours Qualifying
(Same car as in ALMS)

• 2:01.768

Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 Qualifying 2 Silverstone 2011

• 2:03.359

Ferrari 458 Italia GTE-Pro / GT2 Silverstone 6 hours Qualifying

• 2:02.774

And a GT1 car,

Corvette Z06 FIA GT1

• 1:58.967

 

[shhiny48]

Show us some numbers then.

GT500 is not "simple" because it´s extremely open in terms of regulations.
GT300 is not anywhere near as open in regulations as GT500.

You are Japanese you should know that.

No, it's the opposite. GT300 is much more open in terms of specs. As you have cars ranging 40 less or 40 more HP. Where the GT500 specs have cars with 20 or less. You could argue that GT500 is more open because they are aloud taking engines from any model car and tuning them up however they want. But the power range is much slimmer that they have to hit. GT500 they are allowed to change the tube frames aswell where in GT300 you can't. But either way all the teams in GT500 do it. So it's still tight. It is extremely open, but at the same time it's not because who wouldn't do it if it's faster? I'm in a hurry and could probably explain this much better. But I just don't have the time.

 

[hampus_dh]

You contradict yourself.

The bottom line is that GT500 regulations is WAY more open then GT300.

I´m talking about the regulations, not what cars they run but plain and simple regulations.
Or modifications if you will.

GT500 has the most open regulations of all GT classes in the world. The fact that GT300 lets GT3 cars run in that class says that the regulations are very tight and the level of play is not that much compared to GT500.

 

[hampus_dh]

Wiki isn´t always the best source but for stuff like this it´s really really good. I think you are just miss-understanding what i´m saying.

GT500

The top class in Super GT, GT500, is dominated by the Big 3 Japanese automakers: Honda (HSV-010 GT replacing NSX Super GT), Nissan (GT-R replacing 350Z), and Toyota/Lexus (LFA replacing SC 430 in 2012, which replaced the Toyota Supra) with some privateer teams running European cars such as Aston Martin DB9, Ferrari 550-GTS, Lamborghini Murciélago or McLaren F1 GTR.

Regulations in GT500 are considerably looser than most GT classifications, and teams are free to change engines with other models made by the manufacturer, change the alignment of the engine, or add forced-induction systems to models which do not normally have it, however from 2010 onwards all GT500 cars run V8 engines displacing 3.4 liters. The chassis may also be heavily modified, with lightweight tube-frame "clips" being allowed in front of and behind the main cockpit, although the car must overall look similar to its road-going variant. These regulations result in cars which are possibly the fastest GT racing cars in the world. The rationale for this was to allow manufacturers to field competitive cars without having to spend large amounts of money for homologation versions of the race car's road car counterparts (although some companies, notably Honda and Nissan, have still developed homologation specials).
In comparison to other grand tourer series, GT500 cars are generally quicker compared to similar FIA GT1 cars, in part due to the more liberal aerodynamic regulations present in Super GT. An FIA GT1 Maserati MC12 briefly entered the series, participating in a pre-season test, but was unable to match the cornering speeds of the existing Super GT competitors. The only car to successfully run in both specifications was the McLaren F1 GTR which won races in the past in both categories.
In 2010 the GT association announced they will start to investigate the possibility to unite their GT500 regulations with the DTM regulations for the 2012 season. Additionally, 2012 season GT500 cars based on 4-door sedans are allowed, where in the past only 2-door cars were allowed in GT500.
Electronic aids such as ABS, Traction Control and Stability Control are not allowed even if fitted to the road going variant, and ceramic brakes are prohibited. There are also restrictions regarding placement and size of aerodynamic aids such as wings and spoilers. From 2010 onwards canards fitted to the front sides in the front bumper are prohibited. The choice of tires is also varied with Bridgestone, Yokohama, Dunlop, Kumho, Michelin and Hankook (new for 2006) available to teams.

GT300

Few works teams participate in GT300, so the field tends to be much more varied in terms of types of cars entered. The big Japanese car makers also participate in this class, as well as more exotic cars from the likes of ASL, Mosler and Vemac (Lotus tuner). Since 2006, European-style GT cars have chosen to concentrate in this series. Starting from 2010 season, cars which mainly participates in FIA GT3 also entered the series with minor modifications.

Along with the standard GT cars, the Shiden (MC/RT-16), a Mooncraft/Riley Daytona Prototype car reviving the original 1977 Mooncraft Shiden 77 (紫電77)[3] also exists in GT300 class since 2006, getting good results (losing the title to RX-7 with tied points but fewer wins in 2006, and won the title in 2007). Until early 2000s when FWD cars were being permitted to be converted to RWD configuration, many of these such as Mitsubishi FTO and Toyota Corolla Levin AE101 competed in its original configuration, and did not win any championships. Cars with rear wheel drive tend to dominate the series until 2008, when an All Wheel Drive Subaru Impreza developed by Cusco won in Sepang.
GT300 cars are much more regulated than their GT500 counterparts, and much more closely resemble road-going versions. Chassis clips and realignments are not allowed (except the latter in the case of front-wheel drive cars), which results in a much more affordable racing experience for privateers. Canards, like FIA GT3, is not allowed in GT300 even it come in stock with the car. While engine outputs and modifications are at a lower level than the GT500 cars, the GT300 cars still post competitive times and races are very competitive.
The GT300 series is one of the racing category that are having most of the makes at the same time in the world. The list below are the list that GT300 cars participated in GT300 series in Super GT, with their active years.

 

[shhiny48]

Yes, but the restrictions are only "loose" because they have to be. How many Japanese sports cars do you see that weight 1100KG's and have 500 HP stock? Not many, if any at all. But this isn't even worth arguing cause i'm obviously wrong.

 

[hampus_dh]

Because they have to be? then explain GT300 which does just fine..
GT500 is that open because the organizers decided it should be that open.
Not because they have to.

I´m sorry but you don´t make any sense here.

 

[shhiny48]

Because they have to be? then explain GT300 which does just fine..
GT500 is that open because the organizers decided it should be that open.
Not because they have to.

I´m sorry but you don´t make any sense here.

Stock chassis that are lightened and given body kits and rollbars are able to handle 300 HP no problem. But with 500 HP it just doesn't. It would be much too soft and lofty. So they have to open the regs more for the teams to be able to first put out 500 hp then to make a chassis that is able to handle it. It makes perfect sense to me.

 

[RobJackson85]

Howdy. Long time lurker, yet first time poster in this thread.

Basically this past week I've fallen in love with iRacing. Have been on it doing at least one race a day. My first few attempts a couple months back where awful. I managed to get my rating down into the 1.40's. My oval is still low but my road is now back upto 2.91.

If I'm correct in thinking, another .09 and come the end of the month I will be upgraded into the D license?

My dilemma, which route do I then take. Do I go open wheel or stick to the normal gt type cars?

I want to take advantage of the current offer of earning $15. So I'm willing to purchase whatever I need to compete in one of these series. Bear in mind, all that I have is the basic free items you get when you subscribe.

Any help would be much appreciated.

 

[DG_Silva]

It's entirely up to you as to which type of car you prefer. Myself, I went and bought the Mustang and the Skippy, but I have found that the Skippy is not suitable to my style of driving, and I have to admit I think I will continue to go down the tin top route, eventually aiming for the Ford GT / Corvette.

So, what I would do is get the Skippy and the Mustang, and buy the tracks that are left in the rest of the series, see which ones you enjoy, and then carry on that route.

 

[Dijital Majik]

Howdy. Long time lurker, yet first time poster in this thread.

Basically this past week I've fallen in love with iRacing. Have been on it doing at least one race a day. My first few attempts a couple months back where awful. I managed to get my rating down into the 1.40's. My oval is still low but my road is now back upto 2.91.

If I'm correct in thinking, another .09 and come the end of the month I will be upgraded into the D license?

My dilemma, which route do I then take. Do I go open wheel or stick to the normal gt type cars?

I want to take advantage of the current offer of earning $15. So I'm willing to purchase whatever I need to compete in one of these series. Bear in mind, all that I have is the basic free items you get when you subscribe.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Hey, yeah the Skippy or Mustang dilema was a diffult one, I knew I'd eventually get both, but decided in the end to go skippy as I've always liked it, it has the new tire model and it's very popular to race with (so is the Mustang though). The big swing for me though was people say if you can learn to drive the skippy well it really helps your overall skill level, so I took it as a learning tool.