Israel and Lebanon

  • Thread starter Sage
  • 614 comments
  • 24,376 views
that three timing son of a gun. but i'll tell you what the comission from these three promises must be on hell of deposit. but seriousley, has anyone ever questioned where these so called holly books came from, i mean humans print them and distribute them doesn't that creat errorors from one copy to the next.
as far as i know and pretty sure of it that the quoran is the same today as it was 1500 years ago, nothing has changed in it, never toned down that's why it is considered contreversial.
 
RallyF1
tas far as i know and pretty sure of it that the quoran is the same today as it was 1500 years ago, nothing has changed in it, never toned down that's why it is considered contreversial.
I see. So everybody else's holy book is full of human errors and flaws, but the Qu'ran is magically immune, because it's the right holy book. I geddit now.
:dunce:
 
RallyF1
as far as i know and pretty sure of it that the quoran is the same today as it was 1500 years ago, nothing has changed in it, never toned down that's why it is considered contreversial.

...and as we all know, what's 1500 years old must be right.
 
danoff
...and as we all know, what's 1500 years old must be right.
again as usual taken out of content, but the funny thing is that you left what i aimed for about the quoran and that is contreversy. it's unchanged format is making it contreversial, not that i am implying that it should me modified.
and nor did say that everybody elses relegion is unacounted for, but if you feel that way so be it.
please look back into the replies and click onto the link to comedy central and watch the clip.
we are getting side tracked here from the main subject of this thread.
 
RallyF1
we are getting side tracked here from the main subject of this thread.

RallyF1
but seriousley, has anyone ever questioned where these so called holly books came from, i mean humans print them and distribute them doesn't that creat errorors from one copy to the next.
as far as i know and pretty sure of it that the quoran is the same today as it was 1500 years ago, nothing has changed in it, never toned down that's why it is considered contreversial.

Uh, wasn't it you that pulled us off the main subject?

Also, you still haven't given a decent answer to what you would do if you were Israel.
 
Swift
Uh, wasn't it you that pulled us off the main subject?

Also, you still haven't given a decent answer to what you would do if you were Israel.

I would move and find better neighbors :)
 
Swift
Uh, wasn't it you that pulled us off the main subject?

Also, you still haven't given a decent answer to what you would do if you were Israel.
i would still do what israel is doing right now cause i'm getting paid for what i am doing, my military would be for free and my atrocities would go unchalleneged thwn why would i do it any different. after all we are the chosen people of god, and since we are we have every right to kill who ever we feel like it, right? iff i was israel!!!!
 
RallyF1
i would still do what israel is doing right now cause i'm getting paid for what i am doing, my military would be for free and my atrocities would go unchalleneged thwn why would i do it any different. after all we are the chosen people of god, and since we are we have every right to kill who ever we feel like it, right? iff i was israel!!!!

Still no actual answer... 👎

Are you going to answer the question or hide behind satire? If you're not, fine. But then you can't criticize the Israelis if you have no plan of your own.
 
Swift
Still no actual answer... 👎

Are you going to answer the question or hide behind satire? If you're not, fine. But then you can't criticize the Israelis if you have no plan of your own.
here is how it's gonna happen. i come here post my opinion and leave, get back to my life do whatever that i am doing and if i have the chance to respond i will.
and as for answering you or trying to convince you well guess what, i'm not. everybody has his own opinion and is entitled to it and i guess i have waisted enough time trying to prove my point and i'm sure you did the same. so i'll tell you what, my position is not changing anytime soon. so go ahead say whatever you feel like saying and i will do the same here maybe, and i emphasise on maybe, that one day the world will become a better place. untill then have a good day my dear sir or mam, whatever applies.
 
RallyF1
here is how it's gonna happen. i come here post my opinion and leave, get back to my life do whatever that i am doing and if i have the chance to respond i will.
and as for answering you or trying to convince you well guess what, i'm not. everybody has his own opinion and is entitled to it and i guess i have waisted enough time trying to prove my point and i'm sure you did the same. so i'll tell you what, my position is not changing anytime soon. so go ahead say whatever you feel like saying and i will do the same here maybe, and i emphasise on maybe, that one day the world will become a better place. untill then have a good day my dear sir or mam, whatever applies.

That is such an incredibly weak copout.

This is the opinions forum. But it's a forum. If you post, your opening your opinions up to criticism. This is not a "Post what you think and leave so nobody can challenge your opinions place" If you don't have the guts/stamina/facts or whatever to stand up for what you think, don't say anything here. Thank you.
 
we watched on the news what the israeli people are going through and how they are living in fear. but as to why i am against israel and all that represents, is because of what i saw and what i see. here is a link to some of what israel is doing to the lebanese people, forget the headlines and forget all what they are saying just look at the pictures and tell me if the same thing is happening in israel.
i would like to see this link left and unedited for everyone to see and understand why we stand against israel and theire military and savage campaign. if the moderators feel that this link should be excluded please go ahead eventhough i would feel disapointed with such an action.PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONTENT IS VERY GRAPHICAL< IT IS NOT MENAT TO SHOCK OR TRAUMATISE YOU< BUT TO SHOW WHAT IS ISRAEL REALLY DOING TO THE LEBANESE PEOPLE IN COMPARISON TO WHAT HIZBULLAH IS DOING TO THE ISRAELIS> THIS IS THE REASON WE HAVE CHILDREN GROwING ON THE HATRED OF ISRAEL IN THAT REGION< AGAIN BE AWARE OF THE CONTENT
 

That is what war looks like, and we need to remember that. As a kid, I used to believe that wars were glorious. It is not. Picture of a little girl towards the bottom of the page made me want to cry.

I'm not one of those people, who think Israeli military is justified in blowing up civilians..... yes, accidentally. :rolleyes: But, Hezbollah are even worse. They actually target enemy civilians, while using their own civilians as shields.

I hope God exist. For so many different reasons.
 
You're off your rocker.
so basically your saying that the children that you saw are hizbullah fighters and it's okay for them to get killed?
again Galloway summed up everything about israel and theire actions, do i need to say more.
 
That is what war looks like, and we need to remember that. As a kid, I used to believe that wars were glorious. It is not. Picture of a little girl towards the bottom of the page made me want to cry.

I'm not one of those people, who think Israeli military is justified in blowing up civilians..... yes, accidentally. :rolleyes: But, Hezbollah are even worse. They actually target enemy civilians, while using their own civilians as shields.

I hope God exist. For so many different reasons.
i am sorry that you had to see such images. but even with hizbullah actually targetting civillianz and having half of his unguided missles falling in bushes and on the outskirts of cities and the other half on civilianz they have not achieved the a fraction of what israel have achieved in the number of civilian kills with laser guided and smart bomb and missles. am i justifying the kills that hizbullah might get out of israeli civilians, no, but at the same time what they are doing is nothing compared to the brutality that the israeli army is dispalying. 900 lebanese killed to date by the recent esscalations, 35 so far on the israeli side, what kind of war is that, what kind of justice and self restraint do we call this.
 
i am sorry that you had to see such images. but even with hizbullah actually targetting civillianz and having half of his unguided missles falling in bushes and on the outskirts of cities and the other half on civilianz they have not achieved the a fraction of what israel have achieved in the number of civilian kills with laser guided and smart bomb and missles. am i justifying the kills that hizbullah might get out of israeli civilians, no, but at the same time what they are doing is nothing compared to the brutality that the israeli army is dispalying. 900 lebanese killed to date by the recent esscalations, 35 so far on the israeli side, what kind of war is that, what kind of justice and self restraint do we call this.



hezbollah started a war ...in war there is no score...only a winner and loser.

So why are you keeping score ?
 
RallyF1
900 lebanese killed to date by the recent esscalations, 35 so far on the israeli side, what kind of war is that, what kind of justice and self restraint do we call this.

So... Hezb'Allah should be allowed to kill 865 more Israelis, to make it fair?

RallyF1
what kind of war is that

A war which one side is winning.

RallyF1
900 lebanese killed to date by the recent esscalations

And... how do you know this?

From figures gleaned from news sources, by any chance?

And how do THEY know that?

From figures released by Lebanese state press office, by any chance?

Would they be the same Lebanese state press office which falls under the parliamentary jurisdiction of Hezb'Allah, by any chance?


If I laid out 900 dead people in front of you, could you tell me which of the 900 were completely innocent, and which were terrorists? It's amazing that you still don't understand this and still quote numbers as if they either mean anything or are cast-iron proof of anything.
 
So... Hezb'Allah should be allowed to kill 865 more Israelis, to make it fair?



A war which one side is winning.



And... how do you know this?

From figures gleaned from news sources, by any chance?

And how do THEY know that?

From figures released by Lebanese state press office, by any chance?

Would they be the same Lebanese state press office which falls under the parliamentary jurisdiction of Hezb'Allah, by any chance?


If I laid out 900 dead people in front of you, could you tell me which of the 900 were completely innocent, and which were terrorists? It's amazing that you still don't understand this and still quote numbers as if they either mean anything or are cast-iron proof of anything.

allow me to say sir that from your remarks i deduce that you are a savage person and have no sympathy to human life what so ever. and if you look back and read what i said you would see that i mentioned the israeli deaths and how they are unjustefiable, and it is because of the death ratio with comparison to the lebanese side,people around the world are outraged by israel and it's actions.
but tell me one thing, why is it when a bunch of israelis get killed every one around the world has to be put on notice but when arab civilians get killed we barely hear of it, example 10 israelis got killed by a rocket attack all at once, we never heard the end of it because of the constant barrage of the media, 2 days before that incident a family of seven in ghaza at the beach where bombed did you ever hear about it, why is it israeli blood is significant and worthy and the arab's is not.
this war is older than 4 weeks or four months, not even four years this war goes back 24 years when israel went into lebanon and abducted lebanese men in the hundreds who are still in israeli prisons if not dead by now.
look at the bigger picture.
i;m sure you will come back with some screwed up anology and you will justify whatever israel is doing, and i'll tell you: good job for being such a hard liner. but the facts are out there, israel is a terrorist state and they have the backing of the united states and no matter how you try to twist it or justify it theire hands is tainted with blood since it's conception. and if you think that israel is contended with peace i would like to point out to the israeli flag, you have the star of david in the middle and on the top and the bottom you have blule stripes, these stripes symbolize two rivers euphrates and the nile. according to jewish beleive theire land should extend from the nile to the euphrates and for them to achieve that goal they have to instigate wars all the time, in short even after a cease fire and even if hizbullah is disarmed and even if everybody agrees with the resolutions that israel put on the table on theire own terms, this does not mean that we will not hear from them again, they will come up with something else, they will create a turmoil one way or the other.
 
RallyF1
allow me to say sir that from your remarks i deduce that you are a savage person and have no sympathy to human life what so ever.

My personality, or your perception of it, is irrelevant to this discussion.

RallyF1
and if you look back and read what i said you would see that i mentioned the israeli deaths and how they are unjustefiable, and it is because of the death ratio with comparison to the lebanese side

You still haven't answered the question - which has been posed to you numerous times - that arises from this.

If the death ratio was 1:1 would that suddenly become justifiable and fair?


RallyF1
but tell me one thing, why is it when a bunch of israelis get killed every one around the world has to be put on notice but when arab civilians get killed we barely hear of it, example 10 israelis got killed by a rocket attack all at once, we never heard the end of it because of the constant barrage of the media, 2 days before that incident a family of seven in ghaza at the beach where bombed did you ever hear about it

Obviously someone did - otherwise you wouldn't be able to cite it...


I ask you again - how is it you know that 900 Lebanese people have been killed? Can you tell dead innocent citizens apart from dead terrorists?


Ignore attempts at character assassinations and answer the questions asked of you.
 
So no one is going to refute what Galloway has to say? Im actually very surprised.

I just listened to it. It's funny how he only goes back 24 years. Why doesn't he go back a few thousand when that was ALL Israeli territory? I know why, because that would break his argument.

So his point is that we think that Israeli's are more important then the "arabs". Well, nope. I don't. But I do think that civilians are more important then terrorists and that if Lebanon/Hezbolah really wanted those prisoners released, they could've tried a diplomatic way. But since they don't deem the Israelis as actual human beings, that option is impossible.

Galloway never mentions that point though...does he?

Hey rally, If I posted pictures of dead Taliban or Al Queda members, that were all F'ed up, would you then want the US brought up on war crimes charges?

Excellent point! 👍
 
So no one is going to refute what Galloway has to say? Im actually very surprised.

I haven't read it. Generally, if he's said it, it isn't worth listening to. I watched his performance on HIGNFY late last week and Ian Hislop just tore him and his hypocrisy apart.

Could you precis it for me (removing any of his silly words, for preference) so I might get a better idea of what he's saying without having to comb through it? I know I have a lot of time on my hands, but not that much.
 

Latest Posts

Back