IZOD IndyCar Series | Cancelled, S2 to Follow in January 2012

[Knelly]

Ill be there for the pace car mate, remind me to zoom my map out before the start.

Mate, zoom your map out before the start 👍

 

[DrifterJoe]

We should run less safety car laps than normal at the ovals for the shootouts, as the 4 safety car laps are to let people be able to take on a full tank of fuel. So I'd say to decrease them to 3 laps for the shootout.

Can someone can remind me what we do on each caution lap?

EDIT: If I remember right, it's like this:

Caution comes out and pits are closed.
1st caution lap- everyone gathers behind the pace car single file.
Beginning of 2nd caution lap- wavearound is given to anyone between the leader and the pace car.
Turns 3 & 4 of 2nd caution lap: pits are opened, and everyone will presumably pit.
3rd caution lap: everyone catches back up to te safety car and goes double file ready for the restart.

In the proper oval races where we need to refuel, there will be an extra caution lap at the end to allow people who took on a lot of fuel to catch up in time for the restart.

 

[Rich S]

I very highly doubt we'll have 2 lines going at Indy. The high line is about 0.9 seconds slower per lap than the low line (tested each line when I did all my track testing). The weak draft should help the better drivers and setups get to and stay in front. Though this might not happen in our 20 laps shootout race, as the better setups normally start to shine as you get within 10 laps or so of a pit stop.

The only real way I've been able to find to pass at Daytona and Indy with weak slipstream is to get a run on someone through the corner and pass them with your superior exit speed.

Good point, maybe it wont be as bad as I think (mass pack race). But Daytona will be for SURE. The cautions even things out but also cause people to drive crazy because they know their just going to catch back up again when they crash.

 

[DrifterJoe]

Good point, maybe it wont be as bad as I think (mass pack race). But Daytona will be for SURE. The cautions even things out but also cause people to drive crazy because they know their just going to catch back up again when they crash.

Just gotta hope that people are sensible at Daytona and don't do anything stupid. If people are sensible, I think we'll mostly see single file, with a few single cars (as in, not 4 cars in a row, but 4 instances of 1 car trying to pass) trying to make a move each lap.

EDIT: We could probably penalise people who purposefully made a caution come out. Though it'll proabbly be hard to tell, even when checking the replay.

 

[cgr-10]

That's the correct safety car regulations Joe, and how many cars in a wreck did we say would bring out a caution? It was 2 or 3, not sure.

EDIT: I'm thinking 3, or we're gonna be running more caution laps than green laps.

I'll be checking the replays for corner cutting and general reckless driving. I'll be able to watch the full race and get back to you all every Friday night at the latest.

 

[DrifterJoe]

That's the correct safety car regulations Joe, and how many cars in a wreck did we say would bring out a caution? It was 2 or 3, not sure.

I think 2 or 3 was for road courses. I believe we settled for a single car spin on ovals.

If you have a single car incident where you hit the wall, receive damage, but DON'T spin from it, do not purposefully spin to bring out a caution. Just make your way back to the pits as safety as you can, using the apron whenever possible.

EDIT: I guess we'll stick with 2 for road courses, and 2 for most situations on ovals. If a single car has blocked the track with his incident, other drivers should be allowed to call caution if they feel it's too unsafe, especially if the car can't move from where he is without potentially hitting someone, or is blocking the track.

 

[cgr-10]

Yeah that sounds good, 2 for both with possible exceptions for ovals. Can't wait for the race! 👍

 

[DrifterJoe]

Yeah that sounds good, 2 for both with possible exceptions for ovals. Can't wait for the race! 👍

The exception could also apply to road courses, such as if a single car is sideways in the narrow section after the first turn at Tokyo Reverse.

 

[cgr-10]

Yeah I agree there are certain parts of tracks that could be problematic. The Tokyo corner you mentioned, the Corkscrew (blind exit) and possibly T1 at Daytona Road?

 

[DrifterJoe]

Yeah I agree there are certain parts of tracks that could be problematic. The Tokyo corner you mentioned, the Corkscrew (blind exit) and possibly T1 at Daytona Road?

Looks like I'll have to come up with a list of corners where a single car incident could bring out a caution of they've spun and are still on track. It'll mostly be narrow sections, blind sections, or sections that are high speed with only 1 line through them.

I can't really suggest any corners or places for ovals, so I'll leave that up to the people passing through the accident during the race, or the driver themself. Though I suppose "sideways in the middle of the track in a corner" would qualify at ovals. Having said that, that'd apply at pretty much any road course too. >_>

 

[24rocks]

Has the league started yet? If not can i drive second penske car (US)

 

[DrifterJoe]

Has the league started yet? If not can i drive second penske car (US)

We've not started yet, we're just doing some pre-season races currently. I believe the US series is full, so you'd probably be put down as a reserve.

 

[cgr-10]

Has the league started yet? If not can i drive second penske car (US)

I can put you down for the US series as a reserve? We're already flooded with entries for that division.

And Joe, there's not really any way of policing it is there I think we'll have to leave it at the passing drivers and Berty's discretion, but with a guideline of 2 cars or 1 car causing an obstruction.

 

[DrifterJoe]

Guidelines it is, then!

I'l probably still make that list though. <_< The list would be a "list of corners to watch out for if there's an incident somewhere on track." Tokyo would be the worst, due to it beng a street course with no runoff areas.

 

[cgr-10]

Guidelines it is, then!

I'l probably still make that list though. <_< The list would be a "list of corners to watch out for if there's an incident somewhere on track." Tokyo would be the worst, due to it beng a street course with no runoff areas.

So it seems! I'm also thinking about moving all the US races to Knelly's lounge aswell, as he suggested earlier. He doesn't have to be there, but everybody will need to add him, this sound like a decent plan

EDIT: I'm also going to give each reserve a number depending on how early they signed up, the first reserve driver who signed up will get a (1) and will be allowed to race over the other reserves. This obviously keeps going, if we need 2 drivers, (1) and (2) will be allowed to race etc.

Too many drivers wouldn't normally be a problem but we're at around 20 US drivers now

 

[Knelly]

That's cool mate

 

[cgr-10]

That's cool mate

OK mate I'll update the OP. This way LV can still be the host of the room 👍

EDIT: And sending a PM to all US drivers telling them to add you, expect an influx of requests! And also I'm thinking of removing StealthGXP from the series, he hasn't been on GTP since I told him about the series on the 21st October. I'd normally be more lenient but with this many reserves it's just unfair. Thoughts?

And all of MarkWhite1510's posts have disappeared along with the fact I can't PM him.

 

[DrifterJoe]

OK mate I'll update the OP. This way LV can still be the host of the room 👍

EDIT: And sending a PM to all US drivers telling them to add you, expect an influx of requests! And also I'm thinking of removing StealthGXP from the series, he hasn't been on GTP since I told him about the series on the 21st October. I'd normally be more lenient but with this many reserves it's just unfair. Thoughts?

And all of MarkWhite1510's posts have disappeared along with the fact I can't PM him.

MarkWhite1510 probably got a ban/temp-ban. (I'm assuming he was the one that posted his series in 5 or 6 threads)

 

[cgr-10]

Ah yes I remember, I'll leave that one for now. But Stealth, I referred him from a Sony forum and he hasn't been on for about 12 days, back then the start date was today for the US series which makes me think he wasn't gonna turn up anyway.

He'll be dropped and reserve #1 Drum404 will be moved to a full time slot.

 

[DrifterJoe]

Ah yes I remember, I'll leave that one for now. But Stealth, I referred him from a Sony forum and he hasn't been on for about 12 days, back then the start date was today for the US series which makes me think he wasn't gonna turn up anyway.

He'll be dropped and reserve #1 Drum404 will be moved to a full time slot.

Sounds good. Drum will probably show, I see him browsing the thread often.

 

[cgr-10]

Yup, he's already got the first PM I sent. Just sent him another letting him know about this 👍

4 reserves on the list now, Niop for Team Penske is the new #1 reserve.

 

[Drum404]

Should be there 👍

 

[DrifterJoe]

Woo, we could do with a teammate running in the US series. 👍

 

[24rocks]

I can put you down for the US series as a reserve? We're already flooded with entries for that division.

And Joe, there's not really any way of policing it is there I think we'll have to leave it at the passing drivers and Berty's discretion, but with a guideline of 2 cars or 1 car causing an obstruction.

Hey can I join the Bryan Herta team instead?

 

[cgr-10]

Cheers Drum 👍 Yep, only your two highest results per round (US and UK) count to the constructors standings, but a third driver will give you a better chance of more points

 

[Knelly]

Woo, we could do with a teammate running in the US series. 👍

Indeed, and there's no better reserve to have 👍

 

[cgr-10]

Hey can I join the Bryan Herta team instead?

I'm afraid it doesn't work like that, there is no cap to the number of members in a team but there is in a division. The US division already has 19 drivers and only 15 grid spots, unless you can make 20:00 GMT on a Wednesday and join the UK division you'll have to be a reserve, sorry.

 

[DrifterJoe]

Indeed, and there's no better reserve to have 👍

How about another 5 of me?

 

[Knelly]

How about another 5 of me?

You saying 5 Joes = 1 Niop?

 

[24rocks]

I'm afraid it doesn't work like that, there is no cap to the number of members in a team but there is in a division. The US division already has 19 drivers and only 15 grid spots, unless you can make 20:00 GMT on a Wednesday and join the UK division you'll have to be a reserve, sorry.

I can do that but I will probably miss open practice but I can make qualifying and races. If so can i be on Ganassi?