Kazunori Yamauchi Responds to Gran Turismo 7 Fan Outrage

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RacingFan1
He does care about real fans who appreciate what he does instead of complaing about everything
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What 'real fans' ? The ones like you who are defending him when he doesn't need to be defended, when he lies straight up to people's faces and tries to make it seem like he's sorry for what has all transpired, yet doesn't do anything to truly mitigate what the game and studio is embroiled in? Are the GTC competitors, some of whom that are in the game, alongside GT content creators who have all come out against the micro-transactions and the utter joke of a launch which proved how blinkered an idea an always online single player game is, 'real fans' ? Are the outlets and Youtube content creators who are eviscerating Kaz and Polyphony for their actions 'real fans' ? More over, are the vast majority of people on this forum who realize what has transpired and are criticizing him for it, even after defending the game when it was increasingly clear this was what it was all leading towards 'real fans' who appreciate what he does?

Because it sure as hell seems that people don't 'appreciate' what he does anymore. And nor should they, especially considering what he has done for the past three games now which you conveniently ignore. But yeah, you're definitely the 'real' fan.
 
People keep focusing on cars, cars, cars...

Let's be honest here. How many of you are really gonna thrash that Jaguar on the track? The CLK-LM I can understand, since it's actually useful, but the Jaguar and that new Ferrari currently have nothing to race against.

Besides, why are you expecting to have endgame cars in the second week of a multi-year game? Makes no sense, right?

The REAL issue has nothing to do with the cars, but the general economy.

Part prices are way too expensive and races pay too little. Of course, this has an impact in how obtainable the cars are, but it has a much bigger impact on the experimentation you can do with the different builds in the cars you actually use. And, TBH, the essence of Gran Turismo and its clones was never to collect, but to build and tune (even Kaz got it wrong).

Not only that, but during endgame you get 1 roulette every day, and you CAN get a 1-star roulette with terrible odds and even worse prizes. Those engine swaps and Level 5 upgrades are nearly impossible to get. It almost feels like my country right now, with everything expensive and the lottery being the only quick way out of poverty.

IMO this is what needs to be done ASAP:

  • Cut part prices in half across the board (yes, even those hood pins should cost 75 credits)
  • Increase credit prizes from racing by 50% across the board
  • Increase credit prizes for endurance races by a further 50% maybe
  • Tweak prizes according to the track, because winning Spa should pay more than winning Maggiore (it takes more time)
  • Pepper/chilli races pay more depending on how "spicy" they are (1.1x for 1 pepper, 1.2x for 2, and so on).
  • Make roulette tickets more easily obtainable, preferably without microtransactions

Ah but then everyone would do Fisherman's again, Kaz would say. And I reply, "so what"? My save, my rules, baby.

If people keep mentioning the cars, everyone's gonna look like fools, because the game gives cars like candy throughout the Café and Licenses, and it gives you GOOD cars. That GR86 Gr.B you get from IA (I think) is one of the best rally cars in the game. The new R8 LMS is no slouch either. The GTO Twin Turbo is an excellent 600 and even 700 car. Won't even mention how the last Menu can give you cars obtainable only by Invitation.
 
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Samus
Alright, nice. Explanations and details of plans, exactly what we want.


Great, so you're getting rid of them then? Seems like the simplest solution to that. No? OK, but you're at least going to explain why microtransactions exist in the first place, right? No? That's really all you've got to say about Microtransactions in your game? You want people to enjoy the game without them, that's it?


Real world prices are one thing, but it's rather unfair and inconsistent if we can't earn money like the real world to buy them. You can't just pick and choose which aspects of the economy you want to be realistic and which you don't. Well, you can, but it isn't going to fly. In the real world the people buying rare and expensive cars can invest in businesses and property, they can earn huge contracts racing just 23 races a year, they can earn sponsorship deals to earn money, they can SELL THINGS TO EARN MONEY. They don't spend hours a day, for years, driving the same few races over and over again.


Great, so that means you're spending the time to adjust all races so they pay roughly the same per minute, then? No? Well, you're at least going to immediately add a whole bunch more races, right, which use that variety of cars you talk about. Like the ones you let Jimmy Kimmel play to promote the game? No? Oh.

You're at least going to immediately raise the credits people earn playing online races, right? You know, that variety you were talking about? No? Oh.


Oh, you're going to tell us in time when you're going to do something that you could do in a couple of hours, a day or two at most, in regards to more events. It's good of you to be so clear. Now we know. "In time". Perfectly clear.


Why can't you explain? It's YOUR game. YOU are the director. Who or what is stopping you? Do you not even have any plans to explain?


Right, end of the statement, I've still not seen your reasoning for adjusting current event rewards downwards, I've not seen you explain why microtransactions are in the game. I've not seen any details of your plans going forward.

All you've done is claim you don't want people to do the same events over and over whilst doing nothing to actually stop it, and made more completely vague, empty promises about future updates.

What a boat load of nothing, Kaz.
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Best breakdown yet.

We are being taken for mugs.
 
Just read the article, literally managing to say nothing at all. Amazing...

If the Forza Motorsport reboot turns out to be excellent, this game is dead in the water (if they don't do something to turn this game around quick enough, that is.)
And before anyone complains about me bringing up Forza, it's a direct competitor to GT. Get over it!
 
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HyperSpeeder
People keep focusing on cars, cars, cars...
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In a car game? How bizarre.

Besides, why are you expecting to have endgame cars in the second week of a multi-year game?
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How many more times are people going to trot this out?

Most people do not see games as "multi-year" investments.
 
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HyperSpeeder
Besides, why are you expecting to have endgame cars in the second week of a multi-year game? Makes no sense, right?
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Which is why nobody's doing that - and it doesn't in any way benefit any point you're trying to make if you keep pretending that they are.

The point everyone else is trying to make (and even Kazunori Yamauchi is doing this, in his own way) is that it shouldn't take a concerted, 300-hour effort of literally just smashing out the same one-lap race (or twice that, if you don't want to run that particular race) to access just the content at launch.

It is baffling that anyone can read that concept and go "Oh, so you don't want to spend an hour a day for an entire year grinding out this one race and not even having time to drive the cars you'll buy in the process? You must want it all handed to you in two weeks then" and think that's a reasonable point.

There is an entire universe of possibilities between "incessant, tedious grinding in every spare hour" and "all content literally all handed to you". This has been patiently explained across multiple threads by several people. Including me.
 
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Can I just double check that no kind of in game compensation, however small, has been offered?

I've not actually been able to log back in yet as I'm currently away from my console.
 
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DodgySyrup
Can I just double check that no kind of in game compensation, however small, has been offered?

I've not actually been able to log back in yet as I'm currently away from my console.
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If you were compensated what would it tell you about PD? That they still care about the fans enough?
 
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HyperSpeeder
Besides, why are you expecting to have endgame cars in the second week of a multi-year game? Makes no sense, right?
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Probably because once again, Kaz said, explicitly, all throughout the lead up to GT7's launch that car collecting would be a major aspect of it. How obtuse and dense are you truly to basically trot this excuse out like it hasn't been re-iterated by hundreds of people since the game dropped, and you're simply just taking a smarter way of saying the exact same thing? (Though knowing you, I'm surprised it didn't just devolve into Forza bashing, like that isn't also the exact same thing you've been saying since this entire saga began in trying to absolve Kaz from his place in all this)

Homie, what other kinds of posts have you been reading over the last 48 hours? That's been everyone's issue from the beginning; the economy is unbalanced.
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Absolutely ridiculous attempt to say something when in reality he's saying nothing at all.
 
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DodgySyrup
Can I just double check that no kind of in game compensation, however small, has been offered?

I've not actually been able to log back in yet as I'm currently away from my console.
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Nothing has been offered at all. No credits, no ticket, no car. Nothing.

Which I guess would've been fine if they had restored the 1.06 payouts. It just seems like they (PD and Kaz) don't care at all about the fans and to some extent even the game itself. It is becoming increasingly apparent with every wrong move PD make. They could've reversed the PR disaster they're in by doing something more than sitting in a chair and saying everything yet saying nothing at the same time. They had the perfect opportunity to right some wrongs but didn't take it.
 
With my refund now they loose 100€.

Good Job Sony, congratulations 😔


i really would have liked to progress in the GT Cafe this evening because i didnt have so much time since release.

But not like this.
 
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"We would really appreciate it if everyone could watch over the growth of Gran Turismo 7 from a somewhat longer term point of view.":lol::lol: 80 euros and the player is supposed to wait for the complete game?! I don't see what is complicated to add MANY events and championships, it looks so simple. Long races with great rewards, real sense of achievement.
 
...I love the game, but there are obvious problems, not to mention PP system that has flaws so one can overcome limitations...

But... If they, Kazunori-san/PDi, wanted to even out rewards through race events that exist, and let's say nerf one and only viable grinding event, AKA Fisherman's 1 lap race for 65k (97.5k clean), downgrading it to 30k (45k clean) for approx 3 and a half minutes, why are then still race events with 10 laps, that one needs approx 10-15min to finish, yet payout is only 70k (105k). Math doesn't add up here, or does it...
If this patch was to even bonuses, it should be so for all races, not only those that give people most money for their time... It's all crap, all this is done just to promote even more microtransactions, or better to say macrotransactions, where one single car is worth 2x money of the game...

I am really pissed off by this...
 
Also if Kaz wanted to present this game as a long term game that grows over several years, and that what is on offer now is only the start, then they should have made that perfectly clear from the start before people bought it. There should have been a clear road map of what is going to be available day one, and what is going to be added, when, and how often.

But no, they didn't. At no point in the pre-release promotion did they say anything of the sort. They did the exact opposite, they claimed it was the "most complete Gran Turismo to date". They didn't say it will become that over time, they said it is. Already.

Since then they've now given us two very vague "New stuff is coming. Sometime. Soon" statements on the website. How is that supposed to keep people engaged?

If they don't already have that plan ready and are just winging it, then no, you can't claim to your customers that's what the game is, you don't know what it is.
 
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Also, lol at people treating a 'multi-year game' as something to take for granted. I'll be the judge of whether I come back to this game weekly for that time frame, (whatever that time frame actually is) or if I come back years later. And guess what? What has been shown by Polyphony since launch is pretty evident that there's no point in coming into this game at any point in the next few years, and instead is telling people to come in when the game is dirt cheap and fully complete. Which just so happened to be the same as GT Sport, or GT6, or GT5...
 
HarVee
Nothing has been offered at all. No credits, no ticket, no car. Nothing.

Which I guess would've been fine if they had restored the 1.06 payouts. It just seems like they (PD and Kaz) don't care at all about the fans and to some extent even the game itself. It is becoming increasingly apparent with every wrong move PD make. They could've reversed the PR disaster they're in by doing something more than sitting in a chair and saying everything yet saying nothing at the same time. They had the perfect opportunity to right some wrongs but didn't take it.
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We did get a statement from Kaz, guess that alone's supposed to be the compensation, lmaoooo
 

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