Koenigsegg CCX: Fastest Car on Top Gear (Vid Included)

[Poverty]

I want topgear to test a gumpert apollo.

 

[Dave A]

That would almost certainly be the fastest road car on the track, especially if it was the GT model.

 

[Wolfe]

I want to test a gumpert apollo.

Fixed. And I want to do that too.

 

[Onikaze]

The DBR9 is horsepower limited, has a minimum weight, and has certain aero limitations.

Last I checked, the FXX didn't have to make it into any race series, and it would be completely illegal if you tried to enter it, it wouldn't surprise me to find that the FXX is actually faster than say, the MC12 that races.

 

[Dave A]

Despite that the DBR9 is lighter, will produce a lot more downforce which will greatly aid it's cornering compared to the FXX and it also has more race technology in it as opposed to the FXX being a test bed car for future road technology. Like I said, the FXX should be faster on the straights but certainly not in the corners, which will probably make the two suprisingly even on the average track. There would certainly not be a big difference in lap times. Regarding the FXX's legality in races, it's need the power limited with the regualtion restrictors etc, but the FXX is too big to race in GT racing, it breaks the regs in that area, too big isn't good.

 

[JCE]

the Zonda F and around 11 seconds faster than the Enzo,

Mmmmm Zonda F. You just made my day L4S. Yea, there is no point to this post other than to feed my hatred of the Enzo. And if you buy an Enzo you are a multi-millionaire right? Well, just spend another $100k and upgrade it to be better than the FXX. Problem solved.

 

[Dave A]

100k might make it as fast as an FXX, but it won't be road legal anymore, the only way any car is coming close to that performance is on racing rubber.

 

[McLaren]

100k might make it as fast as an FXX, but it won't be road legal anymore, the only way any car is coming close to that performance is on racing rubber.

I don't know about that.

Novitec seems to have made the Enzo a little closer to the FFX.

 

[Dave A]

I haven't heared of any tuned Enzo's, but even with a 1000bhp Enzo, there's no way I cansee one able to keep up with an FXX and be road legal, simply because the FXX is running on racing slicks. The only road car to come close to competing with GTS class race car's which is roughly where I put the FXX's performance, is the Gumpert Apollo, but then that's when the Apollo is on racing slicks, on road tyre's that doesn't come close.

 

[McLaren]

Well, Novitec does have one now.

However, there's no specs on it, besides a retuned exhaust, suspension and signature black tail lights.

 

[Dave A]

It'll be closer to the FXX sure, but bear in mind, the only, and I mean the only road legal car ever to beat an NGT car at Nordschliefe is the Radical SR8 no other road car's come within 10 seconds of it (though the next closest is another Radical) with car's like the Carrera GT and SLR being around 30 seconds slower. also note than an NGT car is not as fast as a DBR9 which is a GT1 class car, it has higher downforce allowance than NGT car's and around 200bhp more than NGT car's, a could lap the ring in closer to 6'30-6'40, I'd love to see any car on road tyre's come remotely close to that.

 

[Onikaze]

Doesn't the FXX have a flat underbody with huge venturi's, the wings, the splitters, and all of that jazz?

Le Mans cars can't even have flat underbodies anymore can they?

I'd say it would be a hell of a thing to see a DBR9 (or even better, something REALLY fast, a C6R) against an FXX.

 

[YSSMAN]

Well, considering how LIMITED the C6R is in comparison to the DBR9, I wouldnt be surprised to see the Corvette outrunning the FXX without a problem. Did you hear the story about the increased weight restrictions for the Houston race? I think it was bumped up to 85kg for the race, compared to LeMans where the two will compete with a 50kg difference.

...Its too bad they punish success with restrictions in the ALMS, etc. Team Corvette obviously had it all figured out, but they still have done a good job beating the competition even with the restrictions on the car.

 

[GT4_Rule]

Didn't the Audi team have restrictions on the R8 in Le Mans?

 

[Wolfe]

Yep, and it just kept on winning.

 

[GT4_Rule]

That's the amazing part.

 

[Poverty]

Audi Powah!

Reckon a Gumpert could beat a FFX. More audi powah!

 

[Dave A]

On slicks, possibly.

 

[Onikaze]

How are the Vettes doing?

It's hard to catch ALMS or LMS coverage over here, so few and far between.

 

[YSSMAN]

Last I herd, Team Corvette was blowing the Prodrive DBR9s out of the water, hence the 35kg weight increase for the Houston race. The C6R apparently is outrageously fast, and very tough to beat. I'm not completely certain of the results for every race, as I'm going by the story posted on the Autoextremist website.

 

[Onikaze]

I love it. I saw a race where some of the P1 class cars were having a bit of trouble working past a C6R, and the P2 cars (besides that awesome RS Spyder) were flat out fighting with the C6R for position.

 

[Dave A]

Indeed, in the ALMS the C6R's seem to be pretty dominant at the moment, in the FIA GT the Maserati MC12's are dominat with the Aston Martins coming in second in the overall standings and the C6's coming in 6th so far this season, but I have to note the Vette's in the FIA cup arn't factory backed. I think what series the car's race in will always provide different results, over here it may simply be that Aston Martin and ProDrive have put more effort into creating the winning team for the home crowd than for the ALMS. But in reference to performance, the DBR9's are capable of what th C6R's are.

Regarding car's in higher classes only being marginally faster than GT1 cars, this happens at some tracks and in certain weather conditions, P1 or P2 car's are faster, but not outragousely faster like a lot of people seem to think. So if the track is a track where a GT1 car can reach more of it's potential than a P1 or P2 car, the difference will naturally be lessen.

 

[Poverty]

If its raining a p1 and p2 car can be beaten by the GTS class.

 

[Onikaze]

I didn't know Chevy wasn't sponsoring the FIA C6R cars.

That is very unfortunate, as it would be a great chance to build the Corvette name overseas by showing just what the cars can do, instead of letting a privateer run them poorly.

 

[Dave A]

Well don't hold my word on that, I don't keep upto date on GT racing, but I didn't think Chevy were backing anything but the ALMS and LeMans, either way, they're 6th in the standings and I'd suspect given the competition, a factory backed team to be in the top three maybe not first with the MC12's being somewhat, super dominant in the FIA GT.

 

[McLaren]

Many cars in the FIA aren't backed. We all know Lamborghini isn't, but neither are the Listers or Vipers that still race. The C5Rs weren't either, and I think the Seat and Vertigo at Spa weren't backed as well.

 

[Onikaze]

Hmm, I wonder if the MC12's over here were a different group.

The last I heard of them they hadn't done anything noteworthy.

 

[YSSMAN]

I didn't know Chevy wasn't sponsoring the FIA C6R cars.

That is very unfortunate, as it would be a great chance to build the Corvette name overseas by showing just what the cars can do, instead of letting a privateer run them poorly.

I think the only factory-backed cars to compete in Europe this year will be from LeMans, and thats it.

I think what series the car's race in will always provide different results, over here it may simply be that Aston Martin and ProDrive have put more effort into creating the winning team for the home crowd than for the ALMS. But in reference to performance, the DBR9's are capable of what th C6R's are.

As I understand it in the US, the DBR9 is on par with the C6R, but it is a poor tire choise that has held Aston back in the ALMS. Apparently they went from Michelin to Pirelli, and Corvette from Pirelli to Michelin. Added to that are the weight and power restrictions placed uppon the Corvette by the ALMS, but it is still beating up on the Aston without problems.

 

[GT4_Rule]

Good stuff! C6-R rules!!

 

[Poverty]

One thing ive noticed with GT racing or GTS racing is that in one series ferraris would be beating up on porsches, but then in another series the 911s would be super dominant.

PS. Dont know why people still choose to run those god awful listers.