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This. 100%. Totally unnecessarily crap UX. For a modern system running on SSD, it certainly seems to take a long time do go between menus. We're talking seconds of course but there's nothing to load. It should be instantaneous
Legendary cars dealer refresh
- Thread starter sejtur
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- Germany
its not that I need different versions. Its that I want to try different peoples' tunes. If a Praiano tune requires stages 1-3 weight reductions and certain engine upgrades, and someone else's tune requires only stage 1 weight reduction, and different engine upgrades then I can't try both tunes. Thats nuts. Even having 3 cars wouldn't solve the issue because there are infinite combinations of the tuning upgrades. There's no justification for making them permanent in a video game. Its another example of PD using "realism" as an excuse for a crap experience for GT fans. Just give us the good stuff without the painful rubbish. Its not a hard recipe to follow!
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- Portugal
Praiano on both
917k is a decent car to farm le mans 700pp 30mins. Just stay on fm6 alltime and will you will still be faster than everyone in the race. Does it justify 18M? Hell no! You will destroy every oponent in that race with an 800k gr2 car or any with any detuned group C car.
But if you really want to buy it, you can actually use it for something.
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- salberts93
Thats the thing though right, none of the legendary dealership cars is really worth the price because any event they would be good for can really be done with anything that's cheaper. And they can't really make specific events for them either because people who missed out are gonna be stuck waiting for 2 months...
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I wouldnt be surprised if they did something shady like a race with really expensive cars. They done something like that in gtsport some years ago. Classic car race in le mans. You could only go in with a car from before 1979. Cars like 330p4, ford markIV, shellby cobra daytona etc. Most of your options would cost more 10M with 330p4 costing 20M. I picked the "cheap" cobra daytona (costed 12M) and had to repeat the race several times because if a 330p4 would get to 1st place in the early race i couldnt catch him anymore.
Always expect the worse from PD.
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- Gambleboyen
How about this: Garage, Select a car, select random race, you get either a one-brand race or a race with similar specced cars. Rolling start or grid start, random track (not special stage route x of course), you have virtually infinite events.
But oh no, here are three more menu books. Be happy with what you get.
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- azzabry86
Alpine A220 says hi. That car was ridiculously cheap last time it popped up in the LCD. Grab one next time it appears. For sure this race is coming back.
Loved Nostalgic 1979 back in GT Sport. Used to grind for hours on that Le Mans race with a Ferrari 330 won from the daily roulette (!).
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I will. But you dont even need the alpine a220. You have the overpowered chaparal 2j in your garage for golding a mission championship.
I didnt had your luck, had spend 12M on an underpowered cobra daytona. But that race was designed to be a money sink.
Imagine if, this time, PD comes up with a race where you can only enter with cars prior to 1940. So you could only use the 1929 mercedes or the 1938 alfa romeo (or another car or cars from that era coming in future updates). Another money sink race.
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- salberts93
I remember that one, never did it because I never got enough money to buy any of those really expensive cars. It's fair to always expect worse, and with the 2 month waiting periods this definitely would be worse..
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I don't think its accurate to say that none of the LCD cars are worth their price. The F40 is amazing and worth every CR of the 1,330,000 I paid for it and I think its also worth a lot more than that. Its a unique, special drive. I also find the Ferrari 330 P4 to be totally unique and worth the money. BUT.....
I played GT1 and then skipped everything until GT Sport. I was shocked when I saw these ridiculously priced in game assets, but I got totally shot down in these forums for suggesting that they have no place in the game. I was told that they've always been a part of the franchise and that I'd get a lot of people angry with such suggestions! I did passive grinding and eventually earned 20M to buy the 330 P4. It was great but I never again bought a car worth anywhere near that. Even with the passive grinding, it didn't seem worth the wear and tear on my PS4. I think its obscene to expect people to spend 20 real life hours grinding to acquire a virtual asset in a game they've already paid a premium to own. Somehow the GT community at large seems to think its ok and seems to like these inclusions in the game. I do understand that from a marketing perspective it makes sense. Longevity. Keeps people coming back long after the initial novelty has worn off. But IMO they're losing the balance, with this push for "realism" in terms of pricing and affordability of cars. What's next? You smack a wall and have to pay credits to fix every bit of in game damage or your car stays wrecked?
As I think I wrote somewhere else earlier today, the formula needn't be complicated; give us the good stuff and get rid of the rubbish part of the UX so that the game is a joy to play and doesn't antagonise/frustrate players
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I wouldn’t mind that race coming back, I remember it fondly. I remember the situation too.
I put the wide body on it last night. I’m not sure to be honest as I didn’t check to see if there were any mod options on the standard width. However, there are options for the front, side and wing on the wide body. I’m going to earn a few more credits today and buy a standard width one and another F1 with a standard width as well.
That’s what I do. Especially when it comes to having a wide body version and a standard.
I’m hoping Praiano can develop a 800pp tune for the F1 lol.
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- salberts93
Oh I agree with you that some of those cars are absolutely incredible, and both cars you mention I too am hugely fond of. What I meant by worth their price in that post was purely from the credits Point of View, they'll never give you back the money you spent on them.
And I 100% agree with the rest of your post too, personally I think with the current state of money earning in GT7 the absolute most expensive cars should be no more than 5 million and that should be reserved for a very small amount of cars. But it's all about artificially lengthning the game isn't it..
I really agree with a lot of the sentiments on content in this game. While I did all of the road circuit experiences and grind the same races with different cars (the tuning, testing and customization is fun for me), I am baffled at how PD hasn’t added more races at different PP thresholds that offer good payouts like the 4 that are in the game now.
They just added the group 1 races that offer a pittance of what they should (yes, add some more laps or any other conditions to lengthen the races a bit). Then there are a plethora of other classes and tracks that people enjoy and will play on single player that should reward the effort it takes to win them.
You want to increase the prices? Fine! Just give us more options to make the credits necessary to buy the cars.
Then of course, we want to drive those same cars in good paying races too. Not just free run multiplayer lobbies.
They just added the group 1 races that offer a pittance of what they should (yes, add some more laps or any other conditions to lengthen the races a bit). Then there are a plethora of other classes and tracks that people enjoy and will play on single player that should reward the effort it takes to win them.
You want to increase the prices? Fine! Just give us more options to make the credits necessary to buy the cars.
Then of course, we want to drive those same cars in good paying races too. Not just free run multiplayer lobbies.
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- GTR_Racer94
- RacerGTR94
Come clk lm before friday?
Not likely, still half a dozen other cars before it.
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- azzabry86
Got the 330 before PD nerfed the daily workout gift so I was extremely having been an early adopter of GT Sport. Doubt I'll ever drive it again in GT7
.Nostalgic 1929? As cool as that sounds no way am I ever grinding for that one. I'll stick with the Music Rally trial of the Mercedes instead!
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Thats my guess. These high paying races we have right now (le mans 700pp 30mins, tokyo 600pp,...) are putting a high amount of credits in the economy. Wouldnt be surprised if PD created a 20M entry race to balance that out.Got the 330 before PD nerfed the daily workout gift so I was extremely having been an early adopter of GT Sport. Doubt I'll ever drive it again in GT7
Nostalgic 1929? As cool as that sounds no way am I ever grinding for that one. I'll stick with the Music Rally trial of the Mercedes instead!
So do i . Beating the 330p4 with a cobra daytona in le mans was one my personal greatest performances ever in a GT. You have basicly everything against you and in favour of the 330p4. Very very hard.
But i think it would be way easier in gt7 if it ever came back, due to the huge amount of classic cars we have right now
Btw bought the gt40 today. If anyone is having trouble winning the alsace 1h human comedy, get this car. Makes this an easy win
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- CoenRSD
Hmm.. I need to try this out.
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- SpacedustDaddy
The Alpine 220 is definitely the exception. I think it was cheaper than a Gr.4 car.
Edit: Went for 300,000. Wins the WTC 700 Le Mans easily.
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And disable the rent feature just for that race? It's no PD that's the most innovative thinker here..
The stupid expensive cars that are left will have to wait, I just want the F40 and then I will have more cars than expected and I guess really needed or wanted.
HyperSpeeder
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If you do a 1.65 million farm every day (less than 1 hour) you'll have more than 48 million in a month. Game currently has 4 Goliath-type events with more in the pipeline (I think an endurance at the Ring is a given).
So money is not a problem anymore. The Hagerty increase doesn't actually change things much save for a handful of cars, it's the fact it exists that makes it suck, to the point they removed cars from the rotation so they would reappear only after the increase.
PD really shouldn't have done this with the F40, because they didn't with the Ford MkIV, so what's the point other than bring unnecessary heat from the usual gamer police?
In fact, some of the eligible cars are more expensive in GTS than in GT7 IIRC.
So money is not a problem anymore. The Hagerty increase doesn't actually change things much save for a handful of cars, it's the fact it exists that makes it suck, to the point they removed cars from the rotation so they would reappear only after the increase.
PD really shouldn't have done this with the F40, because they didn't with the Ford MkIV, so what's the point other than bring unnecessary heat from the usual gamer police?
GTS had the pre-1979 race. I've never done it, because everything that can win it costs 20 million.
In fact, some of the eligible cars are more expensive in GTS than in GT7 IIRC.
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Wrong
I won a few with the Red Pig and some other less expensive cars.- 80
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- GOTMAXPOWER
I've said the same before, they could've done it through the car collection tab in the garage, one event for each car and a little prize for completing each manufacture (maybe winning their VGT). There are quite a few fun cars that I probably won't drive without a little extra encouragement.
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I've decided in light of PD getting rid of the Tomahawk grind race.. I will buy one last UCD car and I will no longer commit to buying anything else from there for a long time...
The CLK LM is that car. And I'm waiting with you every day for it 🙂
HyperSpeeder
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- Brazil
My main goals are the GT40 MkI, the 330 P4 for the trophy, a (preferably silver) 300 SL Gullwing, the 917K, the Cobra Daytona and the 250 GTO.
Then there's smaller goals. I want a red F50 and a yellow Countach LP400.
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