Many Killed in Attack in Nice

That awkward moment when tanks and armored cars drove through the streets of Paris but there's no use of them.
Nah not like that, we had the Military helping out on surveillance detail after the Brussels attacks too. But now its even more critical to do so in France i fear.
 
Nah not like that, we had the Military helping out on surveillance detail after the Brussels attacks too. But now its even more critical to do so in France i fear.

It's just a show of force. Even if you know who you are looking for, you can't just shoot the guy in public. If he carries a bomb and you go after him he'll probably go boom too. No matter how, you're probably screwed. Like with CCTV, it's nice to have and see how it all went down, but doesn't protect you from something like a terrorist attack.
 
There was also some sort of fire at the base of the Effiel Tower...



Could possibly be a country wide attack :nervous:

EDIT - French Police confirming the Fire was an accident and not related to Nice. What an unfortunate time for it to happen.
 
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It's just a show of force. Even if you know who you are looking for, you can't just shoot the guy in public. If he carries a bomb and you go after him he'll probably go boom too. No matter how, you're probably screwed. Like with CCTV, it's nice to have and see how it all went down, but doesn't protect you from something like a terrorist attack.
No but for major public events, like the one we had in Nice tonight you should put soldiers with machine guns at all the entrance ways of said event. Sure attacks might still happen in other places but you have a better chance at preventing such a major death toll.
 
The genie is out of the bottle. Nothing can stop it. This is simply the price to be paid for meddling in the middle east. To this very hour Tony Blair will tell you it was well worth it. For him.
 
And to think the Euro's passed without incident (excluding the hooliganism), it's like they were waiting for the country to let it's guard down...

Sorry about the double post below, I meant to add to this one.
 
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The genie is out of the bottle. Nothing can stop it. This is simply the price to be paid for meddling in the middle east. To this very hour Tony Blair will tell you it was well worth it. For him.

It's ironic, the Iraq war got rid of the very man who inadvertently kept stability in the region. When you have a feared dictator who rules with an iron fist it actually helps keep radicalism and splinter groups under control because at least there was a rule of law.

In a lawless Middle East Al Qaeda, the Taliban and ISIS were allowed to flourish and in a way we have ended up with the worst of two evils. I don't know if it's ever a thing that can be contained now.
 
And to think the Euro's passed without incident (excluding the hooliganism), it's like they were waiting for the country to let it's guard down...
Or they simply used the Euro threat as misdirection. They can create chatter and issue threats about anything these days and it sets the authorities scrambling just in case. There simply isn't enough money or people to cover all the potential avenues of attack. The truck idea comes straight out of the ISIS playbook, lots of videos online of terrorist scum putting metal plates on trucks and trying, sometimes succeeding, to commit suicide bombing runs.
 
It's ironic, the Iraq war got rid of the very man who inadvertently kept stability in the region. When you have a feared dictator who rules with an iron fist it actually helps keep radicalism and splinter groups under control because at least there was a rule of law.

In a lawless Middle East Al Qaeda, the Taliban and ISIS were allowed to flourish and in a way we have ended up with the worst of two evils. I don't know if it's ever a thing that can be contained now.

Our leaders, unquestionably motivated by the noblest of motives :rolleyes:, have unwittingly unleashed seriously motivated and ruthless enemies endlessly coming for us. Their pigeons have come home to roost - on the peons!! Let the guillotines fall on the elites who've foisted this BS upon us.
 
Reports now are that at least 75 were killed. The truck reportedly drove for nearly 2km through the procession. Simply awful.
 
Reports now are that at least 75 were killed. The truck reportedly drove for nearly 2km through the procession. Simply awful.

Takes quite the twisted mentality to run over that many people and keep going like they're nothing more than speed bumps in the road. It's quite sickening that a person had this sort of resolve and used in such a way. I mean to run over this many people and know what your doing and just keep going about it until you're stopped by outside forces is absolutely disgusting
 
Takes quite the twisted mentality to run over that many people and keep going like they're nothing more than speed bumps in the road. It's quite sickening that a person had this sort of resolve and used in such a way. I mean to run over this many people and know what your doing and just keep going about it until you're stopped by outside forces is absolutely disgusting
Ive seen this on a number of occasions with drivers plowing into groups of cyclists sometimes deliberately. I even know,some whom it happened to they survived luckily. Motor vehicle is the new gun after guns are banned. Then cars will be computer controlled. Soon we will have our day to day micromanaged if were not careful.

The tour de france on bastille day was also a nightmare yesterday. Hopefully no terror attacks on the tour but the crowds are beyond control there. A terrorist could join the crowd easy not to mention what already happened so far.
 
And to think the Euro's passed without incident (excluding the hooliganism), it's like they were waiting for the country to let it's guard down...
Possibly, but Bastille Day is a major French holiday, celebrating the start of the French Revolution - the start of Western democracy. An attack like this is a pretty overt statement.

It's also worth noting that Omar al Shashani was killed in the past week. He was a major player in the ISIL hierarchy, their minister of war, for want of a better term. A lot of intelligence analysts have put forward the idea that a lot of recent attacks, like the Paris shootings and the bombings in Belgium and Turkey, were a show of force by ISIL. They have lost a lot of ground in recent months, and the death of al Shashani compounds their problems. As much as they are trying to show that they are still a threat, they are also trying to show their backers and sympathisers that they are still worth supporting. They're not on the ropes, but if things kerp going the way they have been, then in a couple of months they will be.
 
I just can't watch or see the aftermath, the thoughts of bodies piled up because of terrorist is just too heartbreaking. I kinda hope it was an accident but those victims lives are stolen by this evil piece of crap.

Prayers and thoughts goes to the victims and their families.
 
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Poor France; Charles Hebdo, November's attacks, the Euro... it breaks my heart really considering I have french blood for my father, my condolences to the victims' family and friends :(. BTW, has it been confirmed as a ISIS attack already?? CNN don't say anything...
 
Poor France; Charles Hebdo, November's attacks, the Euro... it breaks my heart really considering I have french blood for my father, my condolences to the victims' family and friends :(. BTW, has it been confirmed as a ISIS attack already?? CNN don't say anything...
Bit early to draw that conclusion. I expect they'll have some answers by tomorrow afternoon local time.
 
Poor France; Charles Hebdo, November's attacks, the Euro... it breaks my heart really considering I have french blood for my father, my condolences to the victims' family and friends :(. BTW, has it been confirmed as a ISIS attack already?? CNN don't say anything...

Putting the Euro in the same sentence as terrorist attacks is completely ridiculous.

Also, the driver was a 37yo Tunisian. How surprising...
 
Putting the Euro in the same sentence as terrorist attacks is completely ridiculous.
Hey, I know that, but France needed a ultimate joy after what happened to them this last 18 months, and the Euro itself was a joy for them, but winning it at home would be the ultimate joy. Something that didn't happen, and many people were sad for that, and now this, not even happening a full week after it, what if some of those who cried on the final also had familiars that are victims or were victims of this horrible tragedy as well... God forgive my words over what I said... :(
 
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has it been confirmed as a ISIS attack already??
ISIL will take credit for any attack carried out in their name - even if there is nothing to link the perpetrator to their group beyond the claim that they were acting on their behalf.
 
Reports are now it's 84 dead and another 18 in critical condition.

My thoughts are with the families of those killed & injured. Another sickening attack.
 
It's also worth noting that Omar al Shashani was killed in the past week. He was a major player in the ISIL hierarchy, their minister of war, for want of a better term. A lot of intelligence analysts have put forward the idea that a lot of recent attacks, like the Paris shootings and the bombings in Belgium and Turkey, were a show of force by ISIL. They have lost a lot of ground in recent months, and the death of al Shashani compounds their problems. As much as they are trying to show that they are still a threat, they are also trying to show their backers and sympathisers that they are still worth supporting. They're not on the ropes, but if things kerp going the way they have been, then in a couple of months they will be.
This is a horrible time to nitpick, but Da'esh merely confirmed the 🤬's death within the last week, he died in March.
 
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This is a horrible time to nitpick, but Da'esh merely confirmed the 🤬's death within the last week, he died in March.
He was believed to have been killed in an airstrike in March, but it was not confirmed at the time, and it appears that he survived. ISIL are not exactly forthcoming with this stuff, and they may have sat on it for a few days or weeks - especially if the Nice attack was planned as a response to his death, which some analysts believe was indeed the case. Whatever the case, the US military appears to have backed down from the claim that he was killed in March; officially, he was killed in July.
 
This might have slipped someone's notice, but FOX (but I will link to CNN) was reporting last night that there was a history behind using trucks as jihadi weapons:

The whole thing was first started by Hamas who suggested that jihadis use trucks to run over Israelis.

Next, in 2010, Al Qaeda's Magazine, Inspire, suggested the same tactic in an article headlined "The Ultimate Mowing Machine" that called for deploying a pickup truck as a "mowing machine, not to mow grass but mow down the enemies of Allah."

ISIS has pushed for truck attacks since 2014.

The vehicle has been used as a weapon for Jihadi terror four times since 2006, once in the US and Quebec, and twice in France.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/opinions/truck-attacks-tactic-analysis-bergen/
 
Further to that, @Sanji Himura, while it seems this may be inspired by ISIS et al the French Police are saying that he doesn't appear to have had support in materiel; he was carrying a genuine pistol but all his other weapons were fake.
 

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