Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes/The Phantom Pain

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Fun MGS5 trivia: the Garbage song used in the trailer is the fifth song of its fifth album, used in a trailer for a fifth MGS title.
 
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Why would Raiden be in Metal Gear Solid V?

I don't recall his age ever being specifically mentioned, but his first appearance was in Sons of Liberty, which was set in 2009.

We know that the first part of Metal Gear Solid V, Ground Zeroes will be set ten days after the events of Peace Walker, which itself takes place in 1974. Raiden cannot have been any more than thirty years old during the events of Sons of Liberty, since he grew up as a child soldier in the First Liberian Civil War, which started in 1989.

Although The Phantom Pain takes place nine years after the events of Grouns Zeroes (1983 or 1984, depending on exactly when within 1974 Ground Zeroes takes place), there is nothing to say precisely where it takes place. Naked Snake was operating in Costa Rica during the events of Peace Walker, and since Ground Zeroes is known to take place in the wider Caribbean, it stands to reason that he would have been moved to a nearby hospital, most likely an American one given that his injuries are extensive enough that he slips into a coma and the way the doctors and nurses at the hospital all speak English. Raiden, meanwhile, was busy growing up in Liberia, on the west coast of Africa.
 
Someone wrote somewhere so i quote it.

Metal Gear Solid game without David Hayter voice is like Terminator Movie without Arnold Schwarzenegger, it simply does not exist !

So ill guess no matter how good game might be i think ill pass. Way to much great games for ps3 coming this year so i wont be having time for another MGS game especially without that magic voice :mad: :banghead:
 
Ah, but The Phantom Pain follows a Naked Snake who is considerably older than he has been in previous installments in the series. After all, he spends nine years in a coma. As he has grown older, his voice has naturally changed. Thus, the idea that he could continue to have David Hayter's voice is silly, especially considering that a different voice actor was cast for Big Boss in Guns of the Patriots. Although Hayter continued to voice Old Snake that game, and although Old Snake is a clone of Big Boss, their voices can be naturally different. I know identical twins who look the same, act the same and probably think the same, but they sound totally different to one another.

Honestly, the idea that you'll pass on the game simply because of the voice actor is a little ridiculous. It's fanboyism taken to the extreme.
 
most likely an American one

Really minor point but there was a Union Jack (UK flag) on the wall behind the doctor in the first Phantom Pain trailer, I can't remember if it was still there in the more recent one but it probably was. That suggests a link with Major Zero and might explain why Liquid had a British accent, because I'm sort of assuming Zero takes Big Boss' DNA and initiates Les Enfants Terribles whilst he's all up in that coma.
 
Ah, but The Phantom Pain follows a Naked Snake who is considerably older than he has been in previous installments in the series. After all, he spends nine years in a coma. As he has grown older, his voice has naturally changed. Thus, the idea that he could continue to have David Hayter's voice is silly, especially considering that a different voice actor was cast for Big Boss in Guns of the Patriots. Although Hayter continued to voice Old Snake that game, and although Old Snake is a clone of Big Boss, their voices can be naturally different. I know identical twins who look the same, act the same and probably think the same, but they sound totally different to one another.

Honestly, the idea that you'll pass on the game simply because of the voice actor is a little ridiculous. It's fanboyism taken to the extreme.
Yes but I think thats because if you looked at the last scene in MGS 4 it would be a bit weird if both of the people sounded exactly the same :P
 
Wouldn't have quite the same dramatic effect would it? :lol: People need to accept change, the series has to evolve. If they used the same things over and over again then it wouldn't work as well. Don't get me wrong, I love David Hayter as Snakes voice. But the story needs someone new
 
Ah, but The Phantom Pain follows a Naked Snake who is considerably older than he has been in previous installments in the series. After all, he spends nine years in a coma. As he has grown older, his voice has naturally changed. Thus, the idea that he could continue to have David Hayter's voice is silly, especially considering that a different voice actor was cast for Big Boss in Guns of the Patriots. Although Hayter continued to voice Old Snake that game, and although Old Snake is a clone of Big Boss, their voices can be naturally different. I know identical twins who look the same, act the same and probably think the same, but they sound totally different to one another.

Honestly, the idea that you'll pass on the game simply because of the voice actor is a little ridiculous. It's fanboyism taken to the extreme.

Voice is not the only reason for me. I was waiting for this game also, next too Tomb Raider, Last of US and Bioshock, but now when i found out that David Hayter is not going too "lend" he's voice then there is no space for this game now.

Right now Basically i"m you who seriously consider too skip Tomb Raider because it's too bloody and you are forced as main character too kill your enemies brutally. :) I've never was huge fan of the series, Gabe Logan and he's Syphon Filter series (1,2,3) for first playstation was always more attractive too me than Metal Gear: Solid

I've played MGS:Solid and MGS:2 and MGS3 and 4, Hayter voice makes this game 50% cooler, so for now I'm consider this game handicapped :yuck:
 
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1st: are people seriously not going to buy a game because it has a different voice actor?

2nd: please stop using "to" when you should use "too"

=P

IMO hayter always sounded like he was trying to sound too rough, so I'd welcome a less-growly character lol
 
There is a good chance that the next Metal Gear game will feature both Big Boss and Solid Snake (remake of MG1 and MG2, Big Boss vs Snake) it would be a little difficult and weird to have Hayter voicing both main characters... It's better to introduce the new voice actor in this game than the next one.

As much as I hated the idea of VA changing for Hitman and Max Payne. I have no problem with a new voice for Big Boss.
 
1st: are people seriously not going to buy a game because it has a different voice actor?

2nd: please stop using "to" when you should use "too"

=P

IMO hayter always sounded like he was trying to sound too rough, so I'd welcome a less-growly character lol

Corrected mine mistakes, thank you for pointing it out. 👍

There is a on-line petition for bringing David Hayter Voice too the game, but it's lost battle i think now.
 
Meh. I'm okay with no Hayter. He was great in MGS1 but since then his quality has declined in each subsequent release. It's still a bit of a dick move from Kojima to not even notify him that he wouldn't be in it, though.
 
I noticed a significant change of look for Snake between MGS 1 and 2, in MGS1 his face was a bit more triangular in shape and with no mullet (although it was mentioned he cut his hair before the mission), in MGS2 his face/head became squarey and the mullet was in full bloom. A larger/wider mouth also.
I prefer his MGS1 look personally, but the changes they made proved to not be a big deal for anyone.
 
I'm glad Hayter's not voicing Big Boss in The Phantom Pain (is he doing Ground Zeroes?). Hes aged considerably since Peace Walker, and his voice will have become more raspy. Personally, I think they should bring back Big Boss' VA from MGS4. If Solid Snake is still alive after MGS4 and Kojima wants another game with him, Hayter must come back.
 
I noticed a significant change of look for Snake between MGS 1 and 2, in MGS1 his face was a bit more triangular in shape and with no mullet (although it was mentioned he cut his hair before the mission), in MGS2 his face/head became squarey and the mullet was in full bloom. A larger/wider mouth also.
I prefer his MGS1 look personally, but the changes they made proved to not be a big deal for anyone.

Is this parody or something? His face looked like it was made of minecraft blocks in MGS1, of course he was going to look different in the PS2 model.

I'm glad Hayter's not voicing Big Boss in The Phantom Pain (is he doing Ground Zeroes?). Hes aged considerably since Peace Walker, and his voice will have become more raspy. Personally, I think they should bring back Big Boss' VA from MGS4. If Solid Snake is still alive after MGS4 and Kojima wants another game with him, Hayter must come back.

Why couldn't Hayter slightly change his voice though? He's a voice actor, i'm sure he's capable of sounding raspier but still retaining the same general sound.
 
I'm glad Hayter's not voicing Big Boss in The Phantom Pain (is he doing Ground Zeroes?). Hes aged considerably since Peace Walker, and his voice will have become more raspy. Personally, I think they should bring back Big Boss' VA from MGS4. If Solid Snake is still alive after MGS4 and Kojima wants another game with him, Hayter must come back.

Did he not manage to do this from MGS 2 to MGS 4? :dunce:
 
This is Kojima we're talking about. He made an entire game just to mock the people who liked the former game. For all we know, at the halfway mark the game will unlock "Hayter mode" and make you play the entire thing again or something; then spin that into a philosophical discussion about identity.
 
This is Kojima we're talking about. He made an entire game just to mock the people who liked the former game. For all we know, at the halfway mark the game will unlock "Hayter mode" and make you play the entire thing again or something; then spin that into a philosophical discussion about identity.

I like this idea and it should happen.
 
I have a feeling the Hayter thing is a big troll and he's actually part of it, maybe we'll see Solid Snake in the game later when he was young
 
I have a feeling the Hayter thing is a big troll and he's actually part of it

I'm picturing a trailer that opens with "Kept you waiting, huh?" in Hayter's voice. Much applause will ensue and - more importantly - ussr will buy the game.
 
Also what is odd is that the Japanese voice actor is NOT changing. So for them he's still going to sound the same, why not for the Western voice as well? It pretty much contradicts Hideo saying they want to start fresh.

http://www.explosion.com/26543/snake-japanese-voice-actor-will-reprise-his-role-in-mgs5/

I meant to do this yesterday, but to explain this phenomenon, one has to understand that some voice actors, in particular Japanese ones, have something called range. Range, in this context, means that the actor has the ability to alter his voice slightly to achieve a different voice altogether.

An example of this can be seen in the English dub of Mobile Suit Gundam Seed. Richard Cox, known to many as the voice of Inuyasha, showed range when he voiced Tolle Koenig and Shani Andras, parts that went to two different Japanese VA's(Takayuki Inoue and Shunichi Miyamoto respectively).
 
Right and as I already said I'm pretty sure Hayter could do the same.

Not really. Yes, he did sound a bit older in MGS 4, however, given the fact that Solidus Snake in MGS2 was a perfect clone of Big Boss, and yet having a different VA(John Cygan) rather than recycle Hayter for the role, means that rather than having a VA like Hayter, or even Hayter himself take over an older Big Boss, they must cast someone that will alter Big Boss's voice enough to where his tone eventually is in MGS 4.

EDIT: Well, that tweet blew my theories right out of the water.
 
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