Motorcycles in GT5?

[PAPPACLART]

That game is to Tourist Trophy what F1 2011 is to GT, so it's not the same thing. I don't think people take kindly to being told what to do, especially when the instruction is so ill-considered as that. Don't you think people who are interested in bikes and games will look for biking games?

There is nothing comparable to GT's scope for the motorcycle world; most bikers aren't lucky enough to own bespoke race machines, they have to "make do" with production motorcycles, and not many games offer these in a realistic setting. Think about what makes a game like GT so appealing. A Ducati 1198R Corse is an expensive motorcycle, ridiculously so; few motorcyclists will get to own one, or even be lucky enough to ride one. Then there are the older, rarer bikes, too, like the NR750 or a CBX 1000 or a Matchless etc. or even the more utilitarian bikes like a Skywave or the big brute cruisers like a VMax, and even off-road / Motard bikes; the list goes on.

It's just like GT: TT is supposed to offer something to a wide cross-section of the motorcycling "community", something Superbike 2011 will never do.

@ nitrorocks: yes, Tourist Trophy was a game made shortly after GT4's release. I don't think it was particularly heavily marketed. I only happened upon it by chance!

I totally agree:tup: Ever since GT1 arrived, I always hoped for a motorcycle game similar to GT. What was so ground breaking about GT was the huge selection of cars and tracks. The ability to test the acceleration and top speed as well as to tune and make the cars your own. The variety was incredible and you could race your mom's Nova against a full blown Le Man's Prototype. The ability to mix and match, and to create almost any motoring scenario conceivable was all possible in GT.

To my surprise and delight we got TT in 2006, very much GT4 but missing a few things. TT was not perfect, and the physics were questionable in many aspects, but at the time it was certainly the best effort by anyone to create a motorcycle game with close to the scope and choice of GT.

We actually had Riding Spirits 1 and 2, which was essentially GT for bikes, as well as Superbikes riding challenge, both decent games but could not match TT.

TT was a toe in the water for PD, kind of an exercise. I am sure we will get another effort from them.

The motorcycle sim genre has really been neglected and at the moment, I can only really see PD giving it justice.

 

[another_jakhole]

Pd could easily stick a tourist trophy plug in for gt5, £20 for it and you get motorbikes and a spec career that is seperate to that of its car counterparts. They could eaily just up the textures on the bikes in TT and upscale them and they would be fine. Most people say no on here because the are ignorant and believe that they will not like bikes in general like I use to know I love them, jsut give them a chance look at them on youtube go to you local bike meets in your car to have a look around. Or its because they have never played a bike game and when they think about bike games they think arcade style or motorstorm.

The bike world needs a accurate simulation (gt5 will do, lets not get the iracing people going), and gt5 integration would serve as a perfect plat-form which would bring more players to the game and increase peoples interests in both bikes and cars. After all most of us here and petrolheads so don't you want motorbike lovers to appriciate the mazda 787b as much as you do and visa versa so many car lovers have yet to discover motorbikes and how amazing they can be!

And saying I would rather have prmium cars is rubish as I would imagine pd could turn multiple TT game bikes into premium bikes in gt5 in the time taken to make one premium standard. If any rendering experts would like to guess I would appricate it.
I reckon 8 TT standards to preium in the time taken to do one GT4 standard.

Pretty true. Standards are in so I don't see why it would be all that much more difficult to port the Tourist Trophy bikes into GT5. Then again, we all assume.

 

[ch3ng]

I would pick the 4. option.

"Yes i want bikes in GT5 after they did some work on adding events, p cars and RM, Tracks, engine sound, livery editor, saleroom"

Cause this option isnt a option on your poll i picked "I want bikes later as a DLC"

 

[Short Bus]

No. They've already got a poorly designed and implemented WRC and NASCAR additions to the game, the last thing I want to see is a poorly implemented motorcycle addition. I think they should stick to what they're good at and create new, dedicated games for these add-ons.

 

[Roxy2]

I've been playing Gt5 lately and felt that something was missing and then it hit me..

Why doesn't Gran turismo 5 have motorbikes? It's possible isn't it?,Just a small pack of 10(ish) premium super bikes maybe some racing ones

What do you think on the subject?

 

[C-ZETA]

GT4 had an equivalent motorbike game, Tourist Trophy.

Therefore, there's not much chance of the bikes coming into GT5.

Nor is there much chance of a TT2 now.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I've been playing Gt5 lately and felt that something was missing and then it hit me..

Why doesn't Gran turismo 5 have motorbikes? It's possible isn't it?,Just a small pack of 10(ish) premium super bikes maybe some racing ones

What do you think on the subject?

GT4 had an equivalent motorbike game, Tourist Trophy.

Therefore, there's not much chance of the bikes coming into GT5.

Nor is there much chance of a TT2 now.

As C-Zeta pointed out, hate to say it but you probably don't know your PD history. Also Tourist Trophy though somewhat fun wasn't a great sell for PD so like C-Zeta said a TT2 probably wont happen ever.

Also this make me think that you (the op) are new to the GT world as far as GT series goes and obviously any other racing game by PD. This topic seems to be asking for a Project Gotham or midnight club like game. More so the earlier rather than the latter.

 

[Mubble]

Search first:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=131622

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=187113

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=131641

 

[amar212]

I extensively played Tourist Trophy last week for one ongoing project and I have to say how game excels even today.

I hooked up my fat PS2 via SCART on HD plasma, got 576i resolution (PAL here), but game still looks fantastic.

Track graphics are much smoother and crispier than GT4, sound is superb and physics is still ultimate. Manual handling of front/rear brakes, driver leaning and driver animations still performs / feels / looks stunning.

Game design, career structure, small details - creation of driver, gear items, stance choice, handling the garage, OSD, AI routines, you name it - everything is top notch. Choice of tracks is fantastic, no need to highlight that one.

Beautiful game, I'd pay full-price for the HD remake, not even to speak about whatever money it takes to get new one.

 

[Giulietta73]

I've been playing Gt5 lately and felt that something was missing and then it hit me..

Why doesn't Gran turismo 5 have motorbikes? It's possible isn't it?,Just a small pack of 10(ish) premium super bikes maybe some racing ones

What do you think on the subject?

Welcome dude!

Its a fair question that doesn't really require a working knowledge of all things PD.

It would be a nice addition in my view. 👍

 

[GTP_Monkey]

Something missing heh, maybe there is but it ain't motorbikes for sure.

 

[W3H5]

As others have said; Because TT.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Welcome dude!

Its a fair question that doesn't really require a working knowledge of all things PD.

It would be a nice addition in my view. 👍

Yeah it kind of does, because one would understand that PD see GT as a strictly car game and/or driving game.

While TT is a riding game. Thus knowing the workings of PD is at the very core the answer to this question.

Something missing heh, maybe there is but it ain't motorbikes for sure.

^ This, there are things missing but becoming the last version of PG isn't one of them.

 

[amar212]

Yeah it kind of does, because one would understand that PD see GT as a strictly car game and/or driving game.

You knew it was going to be posted, you just knew

And my personal all-time favourite, imagine why:

I mean, it says "Gran Turismo" an all logos/watermarks

 

[Giulietta73]

Yeah it kind of does, because one would understand that PD see GT as a strictly car game and/or driving game.

I see your point, but its just too narrow a view. A working knowledge of PD may inform the discussion but its not the be all and end all to the discussion. As the OP asks: what do you think on the subject? Its all conjecture on our part; knowledge of PD neither validates or invalidates someone's point of view.

 

[JBanton]

Something missing eh?, maybe there is but it isn't motorbikes for sure.

I echo this view, the last thing I'd want to see is PD investing time in adding bikes, when they should be fixing bugs, adding features and adding cars.

 

[madeye]

Why dont you just buy moto gp or something if you wanna ride bikes?

Gran Turismo should only contain motors that have 4 wheels.

 

[88FoxBodyFan]

There was a 1963 Daihatsu Midget in GT4. It only has 3 wheels.

 

[Damon Hill]

Why dont you just buy moto gp or something if you wanna ride bikes?

Gran Turismo should only contain motors that have 4 wheels.

Cause lately there aren't decent games for 'bikes' fan, i never played at TT but i do remember how excited i was just by thinking at PD doing a kind of GT game just for Bikes ( Back then i was young and without money so i hadn't the chance of buying TT).

Moto GP series is quite crappy, totally unrealistic... there was Superbike World Championship from Milestone that was a really good one but i'm not playing it since ages so i don't know if latest 'versions' are ok.

So i would gladly pay for an HD version of TT 👍

 

[TrackpadUser]

I agree that TT was awesome, but I think it should be released as DLC and not as a separate game. It would probably help for sales since I am pretty sure most TT fans already have bought GT5.

One of the reasons TT was really good was that it was like gran turismo but for motorbike games. It had a large variety of bikes, from Large Scooters to Race Modded 1300cc superbikes. It also had lots of tracks and the physics were great.

 

[Fred la Poignee]

And my personal all-time favourite, imagine why:

👍 Motorbikes vs/with cars, my dream too ....

 

[alex1369]

Simply No. Only 4 wheels

 

[Blazing99]

Yes! I love the sound and feel of a good sport bike. Please bring them into the game. If you don't care for them, then if they do put them in the game (which will most likely be through DLC) then don't buy them. Simple as that. No one is forcing you to use them.

 

[maxpontiac]

This will happen in GT6. I'll be shocked if bikes come out as DLC.

 

[Jmac279]

I'm not opposed to motorcycles, but I'd rather have more cars, tracks, and a longer career mode (GT5 is way too short). Both would be great, but PD has finite resources.

If you compare Gran Turismo 2's career mode to GT5's, it's pretty brutal.

GT2 = 712 A-Spec Races + Licenses

GT5 = 126 A-Spec Races + 58 Special Events (only half are races) + Licenses + Seasonal Events

Okay, so the seasonals sort of make up for it (assuming you're online), but it's still an extremely large gap to make up. GT5 basically has 155 A-Spec Races offline when you include the Special Events races, which falls a whopping 557 races shy of GT2.

I'm not saying I want 700+ races like GT2 (though it would be nice), but I would sure appreciate another hundred or so offline races in GT5. NASCAR is completely neglected (a single 5-race championship and 3 extremely short races in Special Events), Rallying gets a bit more love, but is still limited to the 12 races in Special Events, F1/FGT is, again, limited to a single championship, very few 1-make races, etc.

 

[NeuroticVows]

I would rather see a new TT game.

 

[kieran177]

There was a 1963 Daihatsu Midget in GT4. It only has 3 wheels.

I wish it was in gt5

 

[llNovall]

No

 

[striderx]

I don't want your chocolate in my peanut butter.

No... I want Tourist Trophy 2.

 

[eight6er]

I love motorbikes, but I don't think PD could do it right without messing something up. Tourist trophy 2 would be a better Idea, only this time make the bikes handle realistically and not have the flickability of an oil tanker on an RC30.