New Year Holiday Challenge: Nürburgring GP/F 10 Lap Survival Race

[FSportIS]

The BMW McLaren F1 Race Car '97 can win pitting once (lap 7 for me) and using only intermediate tires. Way too close of a race... I almost got bumped out of the way coming out of the last turn. Wouldn't that make anyone mad by racing for 20+ minutes and then getting bumped out of the way in the last turn to finish 2nd?

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You are GOOD! I used the same car and can't even getting anything higher than 10th place lol. What is your lap time and any tune on the car?

In all of the seasonal races I have played, I spun out the most number of times in this race lol. One spinning out costs me couple positions and eventually I lost all my positions lol.

 

[Giulietta73]

With slicks after the rain has stopped falling, if you venture off the preferred racing line even a half tire, you will have a bad time. It isn't as bad at the beginning of the race, but even then it can be difficult if you venture too far away.
After the rain stops driving on the ideal line throws up very little spray. Driving off of it you will throw up quite a bit. The pavement is a touch darker and shinier where it is wet, but this effect is nowhere near as stark as it was in GT5.

Thanks crowhop. Its certainly what it felt like.👍

 

[graveltrap]

Toughest car for me so far has been the Denso Sard SC430 @ 579pp. Tried the inter / inter only for them to wear out and drop me down to sixth or seventh place.

Finally got the win in a 71 percent wet race using RS/inter/RS

Switched to the Keihien HSV @ PP 580 and took an easy win again using RS/inter/RS but this time it really chucked it down! 93 Percent wet was the peak figure

AI wasn't sure what was going on some even running full wets!

Took the lead with a lap to go job done! My slowest race time so far over 22 minutes, but also the easiest victory

 

[trustjab]

If your tires are wearing out, try to reduce the brake sensitivity. Instead of 5/4 (what I use for gt500's) try 3/2. And turn on the driving line. I know its not 'pure racing' but you need it or else youre on the wrong line wearing your tires. Using intermediates only will win the race. If you dont own the TS030, try the stealth nissan gtr gt500. Just put camber at 0.0 and change gearing to a low top speed. That will limit how fast you go and improve acceleration and keep brake distances short. Plus is 1050kg so its very quick.

 

[ALB123]

I finally had a chance to run this race... I used my Toyota TS030 and Intermediate wet tires. I started off with 50% track wetness, so thank god I didn't use RS to start. It was very challenging. I took first place on lap 6 but gave it back when I pitted on 7. Took the lead back on lap 9 and held it for the last lap. This was a very good battle...I hate driving in the dark and in the rain, but it was nice to actually be concerned about winning a race for once (that's not on the Nordschleife).

 

[GTP_Ezza75]

Has anyone made a video of this?

Hi there, here is the full replay of my race.

I used the McLaren F1 GTR Race Car Base Model de-tuned to 600PP, 536 BHP, ABS =1, other driving aids off.

Started with RS tyres, pit stop once at end of lap 3, and changed to IM tyres for the rest of the race.

Had to take it easy and back off on lap 9 & 10 to preserve IM tyres & fuel to win the race. At end of lap 10 both front tyres were at "0", and low fuel, but using 1 pit-stop race strategy, I just had enough gap from 2nd place car to win by 4 seconds


GT6 Nurburgring GP 10 lap Survival Race

 

[Teflonicus]

What's with the game preventing you from entering the race from the main screen with intermediate tyres on your car?

While I'm griping, here's me being pitted one way:

And then the other:

And then receiving my 5 second penalty for (backwards) "ramming" on top of the cross country trip I'm about to take:

 

[Mynor Aquino]

It's ok, someone will upload it sooner or later.

Surely someone will do it, but meanwhile, do you (or someone else) know of any way I can share it without using a video recorder and upload it to youtube? Perhaps through the PSN directly from my PS3

 

[UltimateLurker]

Seasonal greetings to all...to all those who are still having issues with this event,

Dude, you are my hero. Tried this race with several cars, and several set-ups with massive frustration until I read your post. I hate to say it, but this is such an easy win with this car and the RI/PIT L5/RI set up, it went from frustration to a joke. Seasons greetings to you as well!

To those of you struggling, try his set-up, it works flawlessly. The car is so easy to handle, even in the heavy wet, and with 0 tires, it's still a pussycat. My best lap was a 1:58, so I wasn't even hammering it, just sitting back letting it happen.

 

[Jayson619]

Give up after 6 tries with my GT-R GT500 and use the J2 instead.....crap.....

 

[Mynor Aquino]

Won again! Other 1.1 million Cr for me This time I used the GT-R GT-500 Base Model '08. Tune? Just Mid RPM range Turbo and change Brake balance from 5-5 to 3-4 and that's it. IM tires all race with pit stop ending lap 5.

As I mentioned before, each time you run is different on this race, fuel and tires, AI etc.

 

[Mynor Aquino]

Give up after 6 tries with my GT-R GT500 and use the J2 instead.....crap.....

Try with Mid RPM range turbo, 600pp/557hp, brake balance 3-4 and avoid tight curves to minimize the tire wear. Use IM all the way. I pitted after lap 5 and won easily.

 

[RacingManiac]

Soft/Inter/Soft seems to be the ticket since I can't seem to make my Inters last long enough on most cars I've tried. Some cars you might be able to do Inter/Soft for a 1 stopper. I think I tried Ford GT LM for that.

Using stock GT500 car it is really tough, you can catch the leader at the end after the 2nd stop but passing is tough since as soon as you go off line its slippery as all get go. I tried even using a GT300 RX7 tuned to 600pp and in the dry phase of the race it can do 1:55/1:56, in the wet it struggles a bit more but nothing compare to when you swap back on the dry rubber, the lower downforce car REALLY hates driving off racing line...

TS030 its super easy, the car is much faster even tuned to 600pp. The only tricky part is during the wet phase(I ran this in a race where it got to 93%) since the KERS gives you a lot more wheelspin....

 

[Mr Miyagi]

I've been loving this seasonal, takes a few goes to get your strategy right with a particular car but you can win with most of the gt500 cars at near stock specs. I have used several of Praiano's great gt500 tunes setup to the exact specs he had.

As other people have said its a disaster if you stray off the racing line in the wrong spots.
I found that the NSX and the SC430 are a bit squirrely on slicks in the latter stages so intermediates the whole race and pitting lap 6-7 or later was the best strategy.

The Gt-R Gt500 and HSV have a bit more grip so several strategies worked. Starting on slicks then pitting after 2 or 3 laps for Inters then back to slicks at the end. Inters the whole way like for the NSX or Lexus. Or Inters then Slicks for the last 2-3 laps.

Happy RACING

 

[mikeerfol]

Surely someone will do it, but meanwhile, do you (or someone else) know of any way I can share it without using a video recorder and upload it to youtube? Perhaps through the PSN directly from my PS3

Hmmm, I haven't tried it but maybe you can save it to a usb and then upload it to your PC and then on youtube?

 

[Wiski_EK9]

I took the Base model Honda HSV.
Stock tune.

Began with Race Soft till the end of lap 3 (After lap 3 its very slippy next to the driving line) and switched to a Set of inters till the end.
Wenn the drinving line gets dry, try to drive next to it to cool down the tyres (like in f1 for example )

I won the Race with a Minute or so.

 

[JakeC7R]

Managed with a reduced-power Puegot 908 running inters from start to finish. Has to manage my fuel on the final two laps but did it without pitting.

 

[YuRiPa]

Toughest car for me so far has been the Denso Sard SC430 @ 579pp. Tried the inter / inter only for them to wear out and drop me down to sixth or seventh place.

Finally got the win in a 71 percent wet race using RS/inter/RS

Switched to the Keihien HSV @ PP 580 and took an easy win again using RS/inter/RS but this time it really chucked it down! 93 Percent wet was the peak figure

AI wasn't sure what was going on some even running full wets!

Took the lead with a lap to go job done! My slowest race time so far over 22 minutes, but also the easiest victory

What lap times are you running? Since I did the race yesterday using the Raybrig HSV (stock version, using Praiano's tune and put TCS at 1 to counteract difficulty gradually accelerating using the DS3) and I won with a one-stop strategy (started on IM and switched to new IM tyres in lap 5 or 6) with number 2 finishing at 9 secs. Total race time was 22:02.9. No way I could win with two stops. Just curious how you manage to win with 2 stops using a stock GT500 car. That's really impressive.

If your tires are wearing out, try to reduce the brake sensitivity. Instead of 5/4 (what I use for gt500's) try 3/2. And turn on the driving line. I know its not 'pure racing' but you need it or else youre on the wrong line wearing your tires. Using intermediates only will win the race. If you dont own the TS030, try the stealth nissan gtr gt500. Just put camber at 0.0 and change gearing to a low top speed. That will limit how fast you go and improve acceleration and keep brake distances short. Plus is 1050kg so its very quick.

Good idea to reduce the brake balance on the car. Will try that, hope that prevents my tyres from wearing out by the end of lap 2 using my GT500 NSX's.

I've been loving this seasonal, takes a few goes to get your strategy right with a particular car but you can win with most of the gt500 cars at near stock specs. I have used several of Praiano's great gt500 tunes setup to the exact specs he had.

As other people have said its a disaster if you stray off the racing line in the wrong spots.
I found that the NSX and the SC430 are a bit squirrely on slicks in the latter stages so intermediates the whole race and pitting lap 6-7 or later was the best strategy.

The Gt-R Gt500 and HSV have a bit more grip so several strategies worked. Starting on slicks then pitting after 2 or 3 laps for Inters then back to slicks at the end. Inters the whole way like for the NSX or Lexus. Or Inters then Slicks for the last 2-3 laps.

Happy RACING

What's your NSX set-up? How can you survive on one set of intermediate tyres for 6-7 laps? Really want to win using my NSX but even with medium rev turbo equipped at 600 pp I can't manage to finish better than around 10th place, since I have to make two pit-stops. Finished at around 30 secs behind the winner with my Epson NSX. But using inters instead of racing softs for the last 2 laps should significantly increase my performance, since racing softs is like running on ice in the last two laps. Fastest laps are around 1:58, so don't think I'm that slow. My fastest times with a stock Xanavi 350Z and Raybrig HSV are around 2:00, slower than my NSX but then I can do with one pit-stop and win pretty easily. Total time I could manage with my NSX was around 22:35 or something.

 

[Jezwainaina]

Used KEIHIN HSV-010 '12 for this, Intermediate for the 1st 5 laps, pit in for more Intermediate and 24 units of fuel. Won easily but in hindsight I would have gone 6 laps of the 1st set of inters and switched to RH for the remaining 4 laps as my 2nd set of inters were badly worn at end of the race.

What lap times are you managing with the hsv?

 

[graveltrap]

What lap times are you running? Since I did the race yesterday using the Raybrig HSV (stock version, using Praiano's tune and put TCS at 1 to counteract difficulty gradually accelerating using the DS3) and I won with a one-stop strategy (started on IM and switched to new IM tyres in lap 5 or 6) with number 2 finishing at 9 secs. Total race time was 22:02.9. No way I could win with two stops. Just curious how you manage to win with 2 stops using a stock GT500 car. That's really impressive.

It was a slow race due to the massive amount of rain fall, Total time was 22:08.xxx

I managed a win in the Raybrig NSX (just oil changed and a rough guess at setup) And that was an even longer race 22:18.xxx! Again it reached 93 percent wet...

Saved replays but no PS3 access till Wednesday working away sucks when possibly the most enjoyable seasonal race is happening

 

[Fuzzi0n]

What's your NSX set-up? How can you survive on one set of intermediate tyres for 6-7 laps? Really want to win using my NSX but even with medium rev turbo equipped at 600 pp I can't manage to finish better than around 10th place, since I have to make two pit-stops. Finished at around 30 secs behind the winner with my Epson NSX. But using inters instead of racing softs for the last 2 laps should significantly increase my performance, since racing softs is like running on ice in the last two laps. Fastest laps are around 1:58, so don't think I'm that slow. My fastest times with a stock Xanavi 350Z and Raybrig HSV are around 2:00, slower than my NSX but then I can do with one pit-stop and win pretty easily. Total time I could manage with my NSX was around 22:35 or something.

The NSX doesn't require any more power than stock to win. Use RS for 3 laps, pit the end of lap 3 for inters, use those until the end of lap 7 and switch back to RS. Tyres should last long enough, I'm usually quite hard on tyres and they were at 3 all around at the end of the race. It'll do 1:51's in the dry with a clear lap and fresh tyres, low 2:00 laps are good if it doesn't rain too hard. The car isn't that quick in the rain, so watch out if you get a race where the track gets up towards 85% wet, sometimes it'll only get to around 55%.

The slowest car for me on a dry track is the Lexus, couldn't get below 1:53 with that whereas the others I can do 1:52/1:51's. Haven't run the Supra or the Z yet, but all the other Super GT base models win the race easily providing you don't get rammed off by the AI.

 

[dahcmai]

There's a few cars you really don't have to pit with at all. The TS030 can do it if you're driving easy through the whole thing and so can the 2J, though no headlights really sucks. Just start with inters and get to pass everyone as they pit. It's not that bad really. You just have to not go nuts on the tires and ease up when they start squealing.

 

[Morphisor]

What I found most interesting about this challenge was finding that heavily worn intermediate tires have trouble in the wet, but are actually quite fine in dryer circumstances - remarkably close to realistic progression.

Even though the inters wear immensely in the dry, they retain virtually all their grip as long as it stays dry.

 

[evillaugh]

Hey has anyone else noticed the AI drivers are real names? B.treluyer, m.krumm, l.duval, r.quintarelli? Pretty cool I thought and I haven't seen PD make that kind of effort before.

 

[JaseScott]

Nurse a set of inters through the first two laps, try to keep an edge on them for the wet.
You can still push a little, paramount is keep it clean, tyres>pace here.
Draft last few AI for first two laps if you need fuel, no real need to pass them, play with them for a while.
Try to enter lap 3 with 6's minimum(pref 7's+) on your inters.

Then you can push hard through the wet period, right out to end of lap 8 if you wish on most cars(superGT) I've tried. I 'm fairly sure I could've got the YellowHat GT-R through without a pit stop if I'd started a little smoother.

Switch to soft slicks end lap 7 I find ideal, just be careful out of the pits.
Stay on line lap 8.
Venture off line if you dare lap 9.
Do whatever you please on lap 10.

Hardest bit of this race is the constant argument with SRF over who is going to catch the slide.
Sometimes you both catch it and car ends up pointing opposite to what you wish.
Wish there was always the option to turn this off, don't like ghosts in my machines.

NA YellowHat Supra
SRF almost stole this race from me on very last corner!
Laps 1-5

Laps 6-10

 

[FerrariF1GT]

Won with the TS030, with the ints the entire way through. It was very easy, easier than I thought.

Its hybrid motor allowed me to go eight laps before pitting, although I pitted to change the tyres.

 

[ALB123]

I just had a thought occur to me and I don't have my PS3/GT6 readily available to try this myself...

I think we can all agree that PD has made changes so that Racing Intermediate or Racing Wet tires are now needed in the rain for this race, unlike races in the rain of the past where Racing Soft tires would hold just fine. Has anyone tried running in the rain outside of this Seasonal Event to see if it's true across the entire game and not just this Seasonal Event?

Also, many of us have noticed that wandering from the dryer driving line has a pronounced effect on grip levels, as it should. Again, has anyone tried this outside of this Seasonal Event?

For some reason, I have a feeling that these changes, while certainly more realistic and therefore for the better, will only be applicable for this seasonal race.

 

[Draggon]

You sure thats Kaz and not Yoda? Speaking of 'Yoda, i used this setup

TOYOTA TS030 @600PP

Vehicle stats
463hp (83.4%)
902kg (+2kg)
Weight Distribution 50:50

Suspension
Ride height; 55/60
Spring rate; 22.25/22.50
Dampers; 5/7 & 6/8
Roll bars; 3/5
Camber; 0.0/0.0
Toe angle; 0.00/-0.10
Brakes; 8/8

Transmission
Set final gear to 5.000
Set max speed to 149mph
1st 3.496
2nd 2.685
3rd 2.055
4th 1.670
5th 1.407
6th 1.224
Set final gear to 3.600

LSD
5/10/20

Downforce
600/720

Wow this tune is great. Motoyama-san fell in disgrace and even Mr. Quintarelli couldn't pick up the slack. Thanks. Took it to Laguna Seca and Quintarelli got his due again!

 

[YapalfeuAulac]

What lap times are you running? Since I did the race yesterday using the Raybrig HSV (stock version, using Praiano's tune and put TCS at 1 to counteract difficulty gradually accelerating using the DS3) and I won with a one-stop strategy (started on IM and switched to new IM tyres in lap 5 or 6) with number 2 finishing at 9 secs. Total race time was 22:02.9. No way I could win with two stops. Just curious how you manage to win with 2 stops using a stock GT500 car. That's really impressive.



Good idea to reduce the brake balance on the car. Will try that, hope that prevents my tyres from wearing out by the end of lap 2 using my GT500 NSX's.



What's your NSX set-up? How can you survive on one set of intermediate tyres for 6-7 laps? Really want to win using my NSX but even with medium rev turbo equipped at 600 pp I can't manage to finish better than around 10th place, since I have to make two pit-stops. Finished at around 30 secs behind the winner with my Epson NSX. But using inters instead of racing softs for the last 2 laps should significantly increase my performance, since racing softs is like running on ice in the last two laps. Fastest laps are around 1:58, so don't think I'm that slow. My fastest times with a stock Xanavi 350Z and Raybrig HSV are around 2:00, slower than my NSX but then I can do with one pit-stop and win pretty easily. Total time I could manage with my NSX was around 22:35 or something.

Il you use Praiano's tune for Laguna Seca, don't change anything, it works fine. Don't tweak the camber and toe, the issue is not solved*.

You might also try to shift earlier in order to save the IM tires till the end of lap 6.

Good luck!

* Edit: well I see that the discussion is open again: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/is-camber-fixed-discuss-it-here.321270/

 

[seluhehi]

COOL RACE!!! 1st - +9sec
GT-R GT500 Base Model 08 PR 600
NO AID ABS 0, all 0.
Tires: Softrace - IM - Soft Race
Pit Stop: Between 3-4 laps and 8-9 laps.
I wish more Races like this.