North Korea, Sanctions, and Kim Jong-un
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South Koreans are more worried about Donald Trump than Kim Jong-un:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...g-than-donald-trump-say-south-koreans/8681700
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...g-than-donald-trump-say-south-koreans/8681700
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- Johnnypenso
FTFY
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- TenEightyOne
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An interesting article from a Korean AP journo who takes a differing view: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...eans-arent-afraid-of-a-military-standoff.html
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- huskeR_32
What exactly is "deceptive" about stating the main point of the article?
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- huskeR_32
I get that part; the article itself is only the opinion of one man, and should be read with a skeptical eye. It's the second bit, in which he appears to be calling prisonermonkey's post "deceptive," that I'm asking about.
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PM conveniently left out the part where it's one guy's opinion in his description of the article.
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- Hammerhead Garage
The Americans want a solution to the situation. The Russians and the Chinese think they have one - North Korea end their missile program and the Americans remove missile defence sites from the region and suspend their military drills. However, the Americans either haven't heard them or have disregarded it, as Trump has since Tweeted further criticism of Beijing for not imposing economic sanctions.
So what's more important here: ending the threat posed by North Korea, or ending the threat posed by North Korea on terms that are favourable to America?
So what's more important here: ending the threat posed by North Korea, or ending the threat posed by North Korea on terms that are favourable to America?
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- huskeR_32
So what? Are we all required to cover the entirety of the articles we link to? If so, kinda defeats the purpose of linking, yeah? Threads are going to get pretty long if we all just copy-paste entire articles as posts.
It would be one thing if PM had blatantly misrepresented the gist of the article, which they didn't; or declined provide the link that fleshed out what they were talking about, which they did.
We were all free to read the article being referenced, and form our own opinions. I don't see the problem here.
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- Johnnypenso
@Northstar has it right. I can't be bothered to explain the obvious. If you don't get it you don't get it.
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To state the obvious: @prisonermonkeys stated "South Koreans are more worried about Donald Trump than Kim Jong-un". The article makes it plain that this is the opinion of one man from Australia, and not the South Koreans themselves.
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From his Wikipedia article:
So he's not just "one man from Australia" - he's a former foreign minister with extensive experience on subjects such as nuclear proliferation.
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- Carbonox
He's one man who hasn't even polled the South Koreans, just inserted his own opinion into their mouths basically...
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- Johnnypenso
So he's two men? Three men?
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- huskeR_32
And is that not also what the article stated? You object to him accurately summarizing the article?
Oh please, wise one, don't give up on us dumb folk who can't keep up with your dizzying intellect.
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You guys are playing the man here, not the ball.
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- Johnnypenso
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You accuse me of misrepresenting the content of the article, and yet you do exactly the same thing.
You make it sound like they asked a single man in complete isolation and published it as news. You conveniently ignored the way he has expert knowledge and years of experience in a range of fields - including foreign relations, nuclear non-proliferation and international crisis management - that make him highly qualified to comment on the subject.
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- Johnnypenso
It makes him qualified to give his opinion, based on his experience and likely tempered by his political leanings. It doesn't give him the authority to speak on behalf of the people of South Korea which is what you inferred. Clickbait.
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Not at all. I just stated the content of the story. You're the one who jumped to the conclusion based on it being critical of Trump. Because if there's one thing Trump has taught us, it's that any criticism - no matter how constructive or valid - can immediately be dismissed as part of an ongoing conspiracy against you.
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- Johnnypenso
Odd. I never mentioned Trump at all except to quote the title of the article. My issue isn't with Trump, it's with your deceptive, clickbait style wording.
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The United States, South Korea and Japan run mock bombing drills as a show of force:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...m-japan,-s-korea-for-training-mission/8690894
The Americans will also test their THAAD batteries soon.
Meanwhile, Kim has apparently rejected an offer from the South for another round of diplomatic talks amid unconfirmed reports that the North is stockpiling sarin gas reserves near the demilitarised zone.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...m-japan,-s-korea-for-training-mission/8690894
The Americans will also test their THAAD batteries soon.
Meanwhile, Kim has apparently rejected an offer from the South for another round of diplomatic talks amid unconfirmed reports that the North is stockpiling sarin gas reserves near the demilitarised zone.
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Beijing says the "China responsibility theory" has to stop - they're not impressed that Trump insists that they must take action while doing nothing himself:
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...y-theory-on-nk-must-stop-beijing-says/8699432
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-...y-theory-on-nk-must-stop-beijing-says/8699432
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- Blitzbay
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So is China denying then that they are able to control North Korea? Has the DRPK become self-sufficient?
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What more can the U.S. do outside of full military intervention?
- We don't trade with them and are trying to get even more sanctions passed.
- NK doesn't exactly seem willing to do the diplomatic relations deal no matter who the PoTUS is.
- We give SK quite a bit of military support.
- I guess we could try an assassination, but considering our record in that category it would probably fail in spectacular fashion.
China on the other hand is NK's largest trading partner by a huge margin.
- We don't trade with them and are trying to get even more sanctions passed.
- NK doesn't exactly seem willing to do the diplomatic relations deal no matter who the PoTUS is.
- We give SK quite a bit of military support.
- I guess we could try an assassination, but considering our record in that category it would probably fail in spectacular fashion.
China on the other hand is NK's largest trading partner by a huge margin.
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