Nurburgring Challenge *POST YOUR TIMES*

[mustangshelby]

i was driving the zonda 7.3 and is really dificult like the yellow bird
and i cant do a good time the best was
ZONDA 7.3 7,26.980
muy muy dificil de manejar en especial la segunda velosidad me cuesta trabajo aplicar bien la potensia y el contra volanteo es muy fino
pero es muy rapido en curvas y te permite sacar 2 llantas al pasto sin muchos problemas.
i think i could put a good record in one week

 

[mustangshelby]

7:32* -- 164.071 km/h – Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/ 1230 kg, (*mfr.)
7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01)
7:34 --- 163.586 km/h – Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, Horst von Saurma, oct,17-18 05
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E46, 360 hp, Michelín Sport Cup R , Mattias Ekblom
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Roehrl (02)
7:39 --- 161.575 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, , 612 PS/ 1475 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche GT3 RS, stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Mattias Ekblom (ams)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (Autobild 07/04)
7:41 --- 160.868 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04)
7:42* -- 160.519 km/h – Ford GT 40, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa, (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02)
7:42.9 - 160.207 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS / 1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05)
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street, 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44 --- 159.828 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45 --- 159.484 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600hp (00)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at pistonheads.tv
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magazine 07/00)
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652hp (sport auto 99)
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381hp (sport auto 03/04)
7.49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche GT3, 392hp (AutoBild 2004)
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)
7:49.72 157.885 km/h -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (93) (moto bike)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL (sport auto 08/03)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Blitz Supra, 750hp, Herbert Schuerg (97)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 95)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (sport auto 12/03)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582bPS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/03)
7:55* --- 156. km/h Ferrari F430 F1 (sport auto 12/05)
7:55 --- 156.126 km/h -- Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56* -- 155.798 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:56.73 155.569 km/h -- Honda NXC-R (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion", lap not completed)
7:57 --- 155.472 km/h -- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/98)
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* -- 154.822 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 97)
7:59.41 154.690 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi spec.C "prototype" (2004)
8:01.72 153.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:02 --- 153.858 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 04)
8:03 --- 153.540 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Pirelli P Zero Corsa (sport auto 10/05)
8:03 --- 153.540 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/99)
8:04 --- 153.223 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/00)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/02)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino “Standard”, Walter Roehrl (WHEELS 06/04)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/05)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ruf CTR
8:06 --- 152.592 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/02)
8:06.01 152.589 km/h -- Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:07 --- 152.279 km/h -- Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/98)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/02)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/99)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/97)
8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear 02/05)
8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/97)

 

[mustangshelby]

8:10 --- 151.347 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:10.75 151.265 km/h -- Subaru Impreza WRX STi Version III sedan (1996)
8:11 --- 151,274 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)
8:11* -- 151,274 km/h -- Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) (sport auto 07/05)
8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/02)
8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/97)
8:12 --- 150.732 km/h -- Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/97)
8:33 --- 150.426 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage, 385 PS/1636 kg, Bridgestone Potenza RE 50 (sport auto 10/05)
8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/04)
8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/99)
8:13 --- 150.426 km/h -- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 hp (sport auto, 10/04)
8:14 --- 150.120 km/h -- Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:14.98 149.824 km/h -- Mitsubishi Carisma Evo VIII GSR MR 8 (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Alpina Roadster S, 300 PS/1416 kg (sport auto 6/05)
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Corvette C6, 404 PS/1491 kg (sport auto 08/05)
8:15* -- 149.818 km/h -- Holden GTS (00), *estimated
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera 2 (Walter Roehrl - WHEELS 06/04)
8:15 --- 149.818 km/h -- Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 hp
8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/97)
8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 PS/1557kg (sport auto 01/05)
8:16 --- 149.516 km/h -- Aston Martin DB9, 457hp (sport auto 11/04)
8:16.15 149.471 km/h -- Honda NSX (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 01/03)
8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/01)
8:17 --- 149.215 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 2, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 02/01)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- BMW Z8, 400PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/00)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/97)
8:18 --- 149.916 km/h -- Maserati GranSport, 400 PS/1672 kg (sport auto 09/05)
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Audi RS6, 400 PS/ 1815 kg (sport auto 03/01)
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- BMW M3 E36, 321 hp (Autocar magazine 1997)
8:20 --- 148.320 km/h -- Porche 993 GT3, Walter Roehrl (Car magazine 10/99)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M3 E46, 343 PS/1584 kg (sport auto 12/00)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- BMW M Coupe, 321 PS/1445 kg (sport auto 10/98)
8:22 --- 147.749 km/h -- Mercedes-Benz C55 (sport auto07/2004)
8:22.38 147.617 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R32 GTR (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Aston Martin DB7 GT, 442 PS/1833 kg (sport auto 07/03)
8:23 --- 147.435 km/h -- Porsche 996 Carrera 4, 300 PS/1466 kg (sport auto 01/02)
8:24 --- 147.143 km/h -- Mercedes SLK 55 AMG, 360PS/1566kg (sport auto 04/05),

 

[Dr.AK]

Hum... my first post in this section...

Saw this thread yesterday after a long time away from the forums and thought I'd contribute, seeing as all I ever do in GT4 is driving on the Nürburgring anyway...

'03 Peugeot 106 S16 - 9'42.312
'03 Peugeot 106 Rally - 9'48.970
'00 Honda Accod Euro-R - 9'14.007
'99 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Version VI - 8'42.580

 

[jphachi_roku]

I'st been a while since I've been here

Nice to see that awesome laptimes here

to zondahelmet

I got a 7'23.279 in my Pagani ZondaS 7.3 I'll post the split times later when I get back home, been stuck in the Lab for a while

I;ll try the Nardo next and set a lower 7'22.XXX lap, seems possible since I can outrun my Zonda with the VW Nardo at some corners and distance myself and Its much stable at high speed.

Anyone who has the PATIENCE to lap a Daihatsu Midget around the ring??? For fun only

 

[Dr.AK]

Anyone who has the PATIENCE to lap a Daihatsu Midget around the ring??? For fun only

I did this once. If I remember correctly my laptime was around 23 minutes.

 

[AngelCreator]

I will give it a go:tup:.

 

[mustangshelby]

PAGANI ZONDA 7.3-- 7`24.348
BMW M3 csl ----7`50.211
BMW M3 N1tires--8´19.574

 

[AngelCreator]

I have a time for the Daihatsu Midget I just need to wright down the time.
Any more small cars you want times for?

 

[Appie]

Volkswagen Polo

 

[Kent]

Wanted to come in and mention that I don't think "Tuner" cars or "Concept" cars should be allowed in this challenge.

This is a challenge for "Production" cars and completely "Stock" cars.

Cars with adjustable suspensions and modified parts should not be allowed (IMO).
This would rule out many cars including (but not limited to):
VW Nardo
Tommy K. ZZII
NSX LM Concept Road Car

Let me know your thoughts but be mindful of what the rules are to this thread.
(also keep in mind that the ever popular Zonda 7.3 would still be legal)

 

[AngelCreator]

Here are the times for the Daihatsu Midget '63.

T1-1:24:018
T2-2:52:278
T3-3:55:775
T4-5:31:212
T5-6:52:976
T6-9:00:106
T7-11:40:975
T8-12:57:440
T9-13:46:033
T10-15:18:115
T11-16:35:498

Total time-17:33:729

I was thinking little cars(under 50HP), but I can drive that car.
And I also have replays if someone want to see them.

 

[jphachi_roku]

Driving a midget must have been really er.........lonely. I never had the patience to do it in the first place I'd probably get bored, irritated and not complete the lap.

Thanks for posting the times AngelCreator , It gives me an Idea of how those cars perform.

The midget is too much for my "attention span", but some of my friends kept bugging me to lap cars like the midget worse The Ford model T and Daimler Motor Carriage. for kicks and the occasional Laughs

I also would like to find out if old cars, like the Auto Union C-2 Streamline (forgot the exact name) AC Cobra etc. , can match up to the modern ones.
Maybe when my exams are over.

 

[AngelCreator]

I can test some cars if you can get me a list of what cars you want times for.
And I don't mind driving slow or old cars.

 

[FastEddie12]

Cars with adjustable suspensions and modified parts should not be allowed (IMO).

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

You can't say that! That would rule out at least 3 of my favourite cars

Ruf BTR
Ruf CTR "Yellowbird"
Ruf RGT

I'm with you on the rest of it though.

 

[Kent]

The idea here is to compete with Nurburgring hotlaps
driven with completely stock production cars.

Rules are simple:

-You can drive any PRODUCTION car, 100% unmodified (not even oil change unless it's a used car, so car performance is always consistent)
-You must use N2 tires for real-word performance
-Drive in GT mode/Circuit practice

Hard to say if we should allow cars like the yellowbird or not.

It seems like a production car to me but if it has an adjustable suspension it may not be fair game for the 100% unmodified part of the rules.

Continue to ring-in and let me know what you all think.
This sort of issue can make the difference between the fastest lap and an illegal lap.

Btw, the Nardo is completely un-adjustable but classified as a concept.
Where does that leave the Nardo?

 

[zondahelmet]

Hard to say if we should allow cars like the yellowbird or not.

It seems like a production car to me but if it has an adjustable suspension it may not be fair game for the 100% unmodified part of the rules.

Continue to ring-in and let me know what you all think.
This sort of issue can make the difference between the fastest lap and an illegal lap.

Btw, the Nardo is completely un-adjustable but classified as a concept.
Where does that leave the Nardo?

i think if the car comes with a sports suspension already, you should have to leave the sports suspension "stock," eg. you have to leave the settings on default

 

[FastEddie12]

I think Turbo J answered this in the first post:

The idea here is to compete with Nurburgring hotlaps
driven with completely stock production cars.

Rules are simple:

-You can drive any PRODUCTION car, 100% unmodified (not even oil change unless it's a used car, so car performance is always consistent)
-You must use N2 tires for real-word performance
-Drive in GT mode/Circuit practice

The Nardo isn't a production car, the Rufs are, at least in GT4 terms. "100% unmodified" says stock settings to me, but as the mods possible are fairly minimal and difficult to police, I would just consider this as a gentleman's agreement. Hmmm. Do they have gentlemen on the internet?

Oh, and here's my latest laptime:

Ruf RGT - 7'59.067"

 

[AngelCreator]

I have the times for the Volkswagen Polo GTI '01.

T1-1:01:983
T2-1:50:823
T3-2:29:773
T4-3:40:620
T5-4:38:402
T6-5:21:940
T7-6:32:881
T8-7:30:303
T9-8:04:672
T10-9:04:238
T11-9:39:475

Total Time-10:11:384

Is their any more small cars you want times for?

 

[Kent]

Hmmm. Do they have gentlemen on the internet?

No.

And that's why I haven't been putting times into this thread like I used to.
One bad apple spoils the bunch and this bunch certainly has a bad apple (no names for the sake of being polite).

In any case...

Gentlemen's agreement.
Good one. 👍 👍

 

[Dave_George]

Just a quick note on the Ruf's eligability in this thread/challenge from my point of view, If the Ruf's come with adjustable suspension from stock, it makes sense to make use of that feature even in this challenge, GT4's default settings are far far from ideal and a quick tweak can produce a much more enjoyable car, the CTR Yellowbird especially.....Everyone is still on a level playing field in relation to each other and there is plenty of advice available for how to tune the sports suspension should some people not know how....

I wish I had more time to put into this thread as its an enjoyable concept, currently working on the Zonda laptime when sparetime allows.....

regards

David

 

[alrivers]

heres my time with a 350Z

8'29.924 - 2005 Nissan 350Z GT4 Limited Edition

 

[Kent]

Starting to see a difference here.

Ran the Z06 again after all this time with N2 tire racing from this thread.
7'50.955 Clean
Just keeps getting faster too.
I'm sure 48's are possible, which would be awesome for the sake of hitting the real world C6 Z06 (allegedly).

In any case, I think this car is also an excellent example of how impossible it can be to truely simulate real world driving.
N1 couldn't add 28 seconds to my time (maybe S1 could drop 28).

Well I'm headed out again.
Catch you all when I've made some progress with whatever car feels the best.
(TVR Speed 6 felt fun last night)

 

[Appie]

Kent, when do you thinkyou can Update the Leaderbord

 

[Kent]

I sorta wish I could but in a way I can't.

First off, that graphic is hosted by daan the man.
He's excellent with that sort of thing and I don't want to just scrap the link/graphic.

However, I would like to add a new updated board (plus I enjoy coding the vb to do a great looking leadboard).

Coming up with time to hunt down all of the laps included here will be hard.
Will take a while to do so but Once I get everything lined up... 👍
I'll be back with an update soon I hope.

 

[matagilis]

heey AngelCreator why don't you try out the Daimler Motor Carriage?? It would be fun to see what time it gets, if you manage to finish... Last time I tried it I found it to be faster going backwards jeje, I'l try getting some time to try it again,
luck!!

 

[AngelCreator]

heey AngelCreator why don't you try out the Daimler Motor Carriage?? It would be fun to see what time it gets, if you manage to finish... Last time I tried it I found it to be faster going backwards jeje, I'l try getting some time to try it again,
luck!!

I tred that, but I can't get up the hill before the first jump, but I will try again.
Any more cars you want me to try(under 50HP please).

 

[AdamW]

isn't there a massive thread somewhere with two crazy guys who keep beating each other's times in the Daimlers? they're somewhere around 3-4 hours now I think...

 

[jphachi_roku]

Pagani Zonda 7.3 7'22.004
all aids OFF
Tance-like state ON (can't remember much of the lap, its one of those "in-the-zone" moments where your senses feel as sharp as needles and the car behaves exactly as your mind wants it to, almost telepathically. )

Section Times

t1 46.790
t2 1'22.604
t3 1'51.722
t4 2'45.380
t5 3'24.880
t6 3'51.227
t7 4'44.081
t8 5'29.391
t9 5'52.330
t10 6'36.999
t11 6'58.638
7'22.004

I knew training myself with the TVR Speed 12 with comfort tires in the 'ring would come in handy . With delicate throttle work you could achieve the best possible exit out of a corner. On 2nd gear, around 90% throttle is the limit before the rear tires start to squeal. On the technical sections drifting slightly will help align the car for a dragster like exit. Late apex turning on most of the hairpins will give you a slightly faster top speed on full throttle sections.

I can test some cars if you can get me a list of what cars you want times for.
And I don't mind driving slow or old cars. -AngelCreator

How about these 3 sub 1 litre K class cars: Mazda AZ-1 vs Honda Beat vs Honda Today (the police car in the "You're Under Arrest" anime tv series) vs Suzuki Cappucino and Mini Cooper (the old one)

I'll be trying to lap the Auto Union Streamline car, it's hard to believe that this car has so much performance for a 1937 model! But it seems that it doesn't like my driving style and when I try to drift the car, it just totally loses control.

 

[AngelCreator]

How about these 3 sub 1 litre K class cars: Mazda AZ-1 vs Honda Beat vs Honda Today (the police car in the "You're Under Arrest" anime tv series) vs Suzuki Cappucino and Mini Cooper (the old one)

3 cars?


And I have a time for the Mercedes Daimler Motor Carriage 1886, but it was
not done in the rules of this time trial but I thought I would post the time anyways.
I did it in arcade mode with +20% power and -10% weight on N1 tires.

4:25:39:759-Mercedes Daimler Motor Carriage 1886-AngelCreator

That is right, almost four and ahalf hours.
And I did that today so I thought I would post it.