Patch 1.10 - new single player mode "GT League"

[Sparkz_360]

My only gripe about this is the lack of tracks in the game currently, it will get stale very quickly. Here's hoping that PD adds a few tracks in December for GT League. (Special Stage Route 11 will be nice. )

 

[dimassa19]

The F-150 Raptor will fit well in off-road Scapes...

 

[Manasseh257NSX]

If PD starts adding tracks, like Circuit de la Sarte, Spa, Daytona, COTA, Fuji and even some favorite classic tracks, (cough cough Grand Valley Speedway, SSR11, El Capiton) I'll probably never take this game out...

 

[Sparkz_360]

If PD starts adding tracks, like Circuit de la Sarte, Spa, Daytona, COTA, Fuji and even some favorite classic tracks, (cough cough Grand Valley Speedway, SSR11, El Capiton) I'll probably never take this game out...

We can all dream buddy. Circuit de la Sarthe is a must, it's a scape which imo is a massive tease, mark my words it will come next month. (I hope...)

 

[Max_HP]

They didn't just whip up GT Mode in the month since release, I'd wager it's been planned as a component they can bolt in post-launch when it was ready

Most devs nowadays cut and dice up their games and slowly drip feed the remainder of the GAME either as DLC or free content.
It's a shoddy practice to make them look good or make money through micro transactions.
Back in the day, games were released as a full game.

 

[PocketZeven]

Most devs nowadays cut and dice up their games and slowly drip feed the remainder of the GAME either as DLC or free content.
It's a shoddy practice to make them look good or make money through micro transactions.
Back in the day, games were released as a full game.

Games were less complicated without 4k hdr graphics and online functionality. The original GT1 was created by a team of 7 people! Gt sport is 50 gigs!

 

[JoaoSilva]

Most devs nowadays cut and dice up their games and slowly drip feed the remainder of the GAME either as DLC or free content.
It's a shoddy practice to make them look good or make money through micro transactions.
Back in the day, games were released as a full game.

PD don't do that, i'm sure. And PD might take their time with thing, but they always act in good faith. If PD really cared about money there would be a GT game every year or 2 years.

 

[Max_HP]

PD don't do that, i'm sure. And PD might take their time with thing, but they always act in good faith. If PD really cared about money there would be a GT game every year or 2 years.

I think the GT League is evident of cut and dice. It's not like they can just add in a new mode in such a short period of time. These things need testing.

 

[Scaff]

PD don't do that, i'm sure. And PD might take their time with thing, but they always act in good faith. If PD really cared about money there would be a GT game every year or 2 years.

PD may not, but they are owned by Sony, and Sony most certainly do care about money.

If PD can't self fund and the sales volume drops below a level that Sony deem to be a problem you can bet things will change.

Just take a look at Sony's track record with underperforming studios if you believe they are all in it for fluffy clouds, peace and love.

 

[Huzar]

PD don't do that, i'm sure. And PD might take their time with thing, but they always act in good faith. If PD really cared about money there would be a GT game every year or 2 years.

Yahh let's pretend PD don't care about money, it's only a business.

There isn't a GT game every two years due to their snail pace to development if not incompetence at it, nothing else.

 

[Max_HP]

My thoughts exactly! All these DLCs are packed away in crates just waiting to be tweaked & released

GT League is already in game. All they have to do is unlock it.

 

[JoaoSilva]

PD may not, but they are owned by Sony, and Sony most certainly do care about money.

If PD can't self fund and the sales volume drops below a level that Sony deem to be a problem you can bet things will change.

Just take a look at Sony's track record with underperforming studios if you believe they are all in it for fluffy clouds, peace and love.

I'm talking about PD, you're talking about Sony.

Apples and oranges.

@Huzar they care about money to a certain extent because they need to get paid at the end of the month and make a profit to sustain themselves. Or do you want them to work for free?

 

[MisterOne77]

Most devs nowadays cut and dice up their games and slowly drip feed the remainder of the GAME either as DLC or free content.
It's a shoddy practice to make them look good or make money through micro transactions.
Back in the day, games were released as a full game.

But the DLC for GTS is free <_<....

 

[Max_HP]

Yahh let's pretend PD don't care about money, it's only a business.

There isn't a GT game every two years due to their snail pace to development if not incompetence at it, nothing else.

Exactly.
It's a business model and the end product is money.

 

[Huzar]

I'm talking about PD, you're talking about Sony.

Apples and oranges.

@Huzar they care about money to a certain extent because they need to get paid at the end of the month and make a profit to sustain themselves. Or do you want them to work for free?

You're the one saying they don't care about money not me. I'll openly say they are as greedy as anyone else. That has just never gotten in the way of the game, till now.

 

[JoaoSilva]

You're the one saying they don't care about money not me. I'll openly say they are as greedy as anyone else. That has just never gotten in the way of the game, till now.

So if i work to get paid at the end of the month to sustain my life i'm greedy just like them?

Of course they care about money, just like every living person in the world but they are not greedy.

 

[SleezyBigSlim]

I hope so too. GT Sport could very well be a long term platform. Rather than creating sequels, they keep updating the game over the years so it becomes like a Gran Turismo Hub, filled to the brim with lots of cars, tracks and modes, as well as getting a generational update on PS5, like you said.

I think Minecraft is the best example of a game that has been updated over a long period of time. It's pointless making a sequel to Minecraft when the game itself is an incredibly flexible platform to create new content. Gran Turismo Sport has the same potential in terms of the racing genre.

As long as they don't implement loot boxes, micro transactions or any of that stuff, it would be awesome. Paid DLC would be the best solution with regular car and track packs, as well as the occasional free pack.

The concept of video game sequels is less significant now than it was ten or twenty years ago. Online updates can keep a game going forever in theory, so I think Gran Turismo could use the same philosophy. With time, it could become the 'ultimate' Gran Turismo game.

Of course, every now and then a game will need a sequel to overhaul the entire experience, but sequels don't need to happen every two or three years.

Definitely. Kaz said that the cars in GT Sport are scanned and developed in 8K. No need to update these car models until PS6, the only reason to ever make a sequal is for significantly better graphics which won't happen until we past 8K a very very long time from now. GT Sport in theory could last through at least 2 generations.

 

[JoaoSilva]

Definitely. Kaz said that the cara in GT Sport are scanned and developed in 8K. No need to update these car models until PS6, the only reason to ever make a sequal is for significantly better graphics which won't happen until we past 8K a very very long time from now. GT Sport in theory could last through at least 2 generations.

Kaz claimed the same about GT5 and 6 cars, that they could be used in the next generation and turns out that wasn't the case. So we never know.

 

[Scaff]

I'm talking about PD, you're talking about Sony.

PD are a wholey owned part of Sony, so......

Apples and oranges.

.....nope.

 

[Huzar]

So if i work to get paid at the end of the month to sustain my life i'm greedy just like them?

Of course they care about money, just like every living person in the world but they are not greedy.

Once again YOU claimed they didn't care about money. Now it's YOU who are defending them for caring ? pick a side and stick to it.

Gtsport will show how greedy or not they are, 4 years of dev time and such pathetic track and car count. Paid dlc will show exactly how greedy they are.

 

[JoaoSilva]

PD are a wholey owned part of Sony, so......

I'm my mother's son but i'm not my mother so...

@Huzar if they support the game they're greedy, if they don't, they don't care about the game/consumer. If they please you, they'll upset someone else.

They literally coughed out a SP mode and cars for free and they're still called greedy.

But hey, let's agree to disagree.

 

[Huzar]

I'm my mother's son but i'm not my mother.

lmao

But you are 50% of her genetic's. So yahh.

 

[Scaff]

I'm my mother's son but i'm not my mother.

Doesn't work like that with companies, not even remotely close to it.

Take a look at the fate of every first party studio that have failed to meet sales expectations.

 

[JoaoSilva]

lmao

But you are 50% of her genetic's. So yahh.

You share 50% DNA with a banana, so you're half a banana, gotcha.

Spoiler

Doesn't work like that with companies, not even remotely close to it.

Take a look at the fate of every first party studio that have failed to meet sales expectations.

I'm aware of that, but that's on Sony. They are the ones that exert that power. None of that is on PD, or make PD greedy.

 

[Scaff]

I'm aware of that, but that's on Sony. They are the ones that exert that power. None of that is on PD, or make PD greedy.

Have a guess who sits on the Sony board and helps make those decisions............


PD do not do it just because they love you, they do it to also make money, and part of the reason why they have to do that is because the company that owns them and employes them demands that they do so.

You may want to believe that PD only do it because they love us so much, but this is the same company that stuffed a title full of Microtransactiosn that could see you paying £60 for a single car.

 

[Huzar]

You share 50% DNA with a banana, so you're half a banana, gotcha.



I'm aware of that, but that's on Sony. They are the ones that exert that power. None of that is on PD, or make PD greedy.

Actually it is, they have massive autonomy.

They make their decisions.

 

[dylpro]

Most devs nowadays cut and dice up their games and slowly drip feed the remainder of the GAME either as DLC or free content.
It's a shoddy practice to make them look good or make money through micro transactions.
Back in the day, games were released as a full game.

You know, I read something about this recently regarding DLC and pricing of games nowadays. DLC and expansions are far more common today than they were even 10 years ago. Almost every game now has DLC or expansions post release whereas in 2007 you were buying a game and that was usually it.

But then look at the prices of video games which, despite having become massively more comprehensive and complex since 2007, prices have remained the same, $59.99. That's been the standard price for a VERY long time. Realistically with inflation+the cost of new resources needed to develop, market, and sell games, it only makes sense that companies would recoup this money through DLC and expansion packs. I'm not wording it nearly as eloquently as this article had, but I think I exemplified the same point. Wish I could find the article.

Production inputs have risen, therefore the product price must rise, we just see this thru DLC/expansions rather than the upfront price of the game itself which has steadily remained $59.99 since the early days of PS3 era.

Micro-transactions are something completely different though as this is typically just paying for an advantage in the game thru something such as credits or loot boxes rather than additional content like DLC/expansions.

 

[JoaoSilva]

PD do not do it just because they love you, they do it to also make money, and part of the reason why they have to do that is because the company that owns them and employes them demands that they do so.

You said exactly what i said a few posts above, just because they make money, it doesn't make them greedy, they just need to pay people and make a proift otherwise they'll sink.

But that's the same with every other company, from EA all the way to UNICEF.

You may want to believe that PD only do it because they love us so much, but this is the same company that stuffed a title full of Microtransactiosn that could see you paying £60 for a single car.

And that was Sony's decision, 99% likely. Unless you prove to me that it was Kaz's decision and i'll shut my mouth.

 

[Northstar]

None of that is on PD, or make PD greedy.

Would you say charging for a consumable item in a video game is greedy?

 

[Huzar]

But that's the same with every other company, from EA all the way to UNICEF.

Why would you ever bring up EA the greediest scumbags of the industry ?

And that was Sony's decision, 99% likely. Unless you prove to me that it was Kaz's decision and i'll shut my mouth.

And you can't prove otherwise either, i'm 99.99% sure its PDs and Kaz decision.