[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

[Pupik]

I'd have to agree. It's not people who are still serving time who are allowed to vote (unless I misunderstood). People who have served their time shouldn't be barred from voting - I find it incredible that they ever were.

Welcome to most states; only Vermont and Maine allow all felons (released, probation, incarcerated) to vote. Others to allow former felons to vote, but after a period of time, or depending on the nature of the crime. And a few states revoke voting rights from all felons, past and present.

Depending on the nature of a crime, those with misdemeanors in some states can vote if incarcerated; it seems 11-12 of them are excluded. They probably get an absentee ballot, which are typically not counted unless a race is close. And all sorts of other state-by-state restrictions*.

http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000286

* see your parole officer and CO for details.

 

[Johnnypenso]

I'd have to agree. It's not people who are still serving time who are allowed to vote (unless I misunderstood). People who have served their time shouldn't be barred from voting - I find it incredible that they ever were.

That's really not the point is it? In a democracy with duly elected representatives in office, adding 200,000 voters to the voter list with the stroke of a pen is not the way things should work. It should have gone to a vote and the people's representatives should have decided the matter.

 

[mustafur]

Whats the chance that prisons have significantly higher voter turnout then outside.

Such a decision will likely have a dramatic effect, even though imo everyone who is a citizen of a country should be able to vote

 

[TenEightyOne]

That's really not the point is it? In a democracy with duly elected representatives in office, adding 200,000 voters to the voter list with the stroke of a pen is not the way things should work. It should have gone to a vote and the people's representatives should have decided the matter.

The people are their own representatives, they've served their time and should be allowed to vote. I can't disagree with you about the timing though.

 

[dxm8975]

I was questioning how your flabber was apparently gasted by Trump and Clinton winning in their home state...

Nah, I just wanted to say it was a shame that Bernie couldn't win against Hillary in that election in NY despite a series of victories by him in some of the primaries in a couple of states.

 

[Sanji Himura]

Nah, I just wanted to say it was a shame that Bernie couldn't win against Hillary in that election in NY despite a series of victories by him in some of the primaries in a couple of states.

Speaking of Bernie:

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/23/47532...campaign-may-have-to-reevaluate-after-tuesday

 

[squadops]

Speaking of Bernie:

One down, two to go. The FBI can have Hillary as soon as she wins at the DNC and the RNC can snub Donald, all of this leading the way for an easy Johnson win.

One can dream

 

[CodeRedR51]

One down, two to go.

Not yet.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Speaking of Bernie:

http://www.npr.org/2016/04/23/47532...campaign-may-have-to-reevaluate-after-tuesday

The DNC has to be putting enormous pressure on Bernie to give up the biscuit and consolidate support behind the eventual nominee Mrs. Clinton. Problem is, I don't think Bernie is a party guy at all and probably sees Clinton as not much different from the eventual Republican nomine. I think it's pretty unlikely Clinton is going to offer even a cabinet position to Sanders either. That would be tantamount to the kind of cronyism and backdoor dealings he rails against all the time and it would be a bit disingenuous for him to drop out now and reappear as SecState or some other cabinet post.

Bernie is in it until the bitter end

 

[squadops]

Not yet.

It's never over until the fat lady sings, I don't want him to quit as I like the attention he brings but let's be realistic. He's done, one more defeating blow and Cali won't even matter.

This is interesting, I had to google to see when his seat was up for election and ran into some information I didn't know. So 2018 midterm which means he can do as he pleases the rest of the way. So anyway, the backing part...

https://gobling.wordpress.com/2016/03/01/bernies-running-for-re-election-too/

 

[Crash]

Cruz and Kasich coordinates to cede three upcoming states to each other in hopes of stopping Trump from getting enough pledged delegates.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Cruz and Kasich coordinates to cede three upcoming states to each other in hopes of stopping Trump from getting enough pledged delegates.

Yeah as if I didn't call this in some form or another, and anyone following could have figured this out I believe. Anyways good post @Crash.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

It looks like Trump has some pretty stiff competition in this year's "worst presidential candidate" competition - meet Rodrigo Duterte, a nominee in the Philippine elections who in between making jokes about raping missionaries and threatening other countries who are appalled by it, has vowed that if he is elected, he will pardon himself for murder.

 

[Sanji Himura]

In a move that is likely to surprise no one, Ted Cruz officially taps Carly Fiorina as his running mate. OP Updated.

 

[Johnnypenso]

It looks like Trump has some pretty stiff competition in this year's "worst presidential candidate" competition - meet Rodrigo Duterte, a nominee in the Philippine elections who in between making jokes about raping missionaries and threatening other countries who are appalled by it, has vowed that if he is elected, he will pardon himself for murder.

Yes, because a wannabe rapist and self confessed mass murderer is comparable to Donald Trump. What's next, a picture of a Trump with his hair blowing in the wind side by side with a peacock?

In a move that is likely to surprise no one, Ted Cruz officially taps Carly Fiorina as his running mate. OP Updated.

I'm quite surprised that Ted Cruz is tapping Carly actually

 

[squadops]

It's a good move actually(why not tap it too?), who in the hell would want to run with Trump? Hopefully no one with political experience thus sealing his fate. I still can't see the RNC giving him the nod however.

 

[Pupik]

Yes, because a wannabe rapist and self confessed mass murderer is comparable to Donald Trump. What's next, a picture of a Trump with his hair blowing in the wind side by side with a peacock?

You must have missed this. And this. Sure, they're not the exact same thing, letter-for-letter...but equally absurd and well, ego-fueled, maniacal, and pretty much balls-out illegal.

We know you're jealous he's not running for office in Canada, so maybe you should emigrate here before the walls go up around our border; plenty of room here when the "over-entitled" college students are shipped out to France. Just leave any headgear and qurans behind so Border Patrol won't question you since the changes we've made since 7/11.

 

[squadops]

You must have missed this. And this. Sure, they're not the exact same thing, letter-for-letter...but equally absurd and well, ego-fueled, maniacal, and pretty much balls-out illegal.

He has pride in his daughter, he spoke the truth about his supporters, I see no problem with either and I can't stand the idea of him being in office. He won't have sex with his kid nor will he open fire in the streets

What is illegal?

 

[TenEightyOne]

What's next, a picture of a Trump with his hair blowing in the wind side by side with a peacock?

As I recall it was a actually a statue, and they were parrots, although they were having sex. He was holding his daughter veeery close. Of course, that was a long time before he implied he'd go for it with her if he wasn't married and she wasn't his daughter. So he pulled back from that one okay, I think.

And fair enough, he didn't say he would murder somebody, just that he could if he wanted to.

 

[Johnnypenso]

You must have missed this. And this. Sure, they're not the exact same thing, letter-for-letter...but equally absurd and well, ego-fueled, maniacal, and pretty much balls-out illegal. even remotely close.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Pupik]

Fixed that for you.

If A = A, there isn't much argument. But when A is similar to B, we have discussion.

Otherwise, hive mind or why bother with all this?

 

[Dotini]

Cruz and Kasich coordinates to cede three upcoming states to each other in hopes of stopping Trump from getting enough pledged delegates.

Kasich and Cruz are currently trying to breathe the water at the bottom of the swimming pool.

After his romp through the primaries Tuesday, Trump is set to breeze to the GOP nomination on the first ballot. All he needs is 55-60% majorities in the remaining primaries.

 

[Sanji Himura]

The remaining districts are winner take all by congressional district with the exception of New Jersey, which should go to Trump, South Dakota, which should go to Cruz, and New Mexico, which is leaning Trump at this point. So state wide results shouldn't matter the rest of the way.

The only big prize remaining is California, where 159 of the 172 of the state's delegates are divided among the congressional districts. Trump will not get over 100 of the delegates there if that. That is plain and simple.

 

[Adamgp]

Cruz and Kasich coordinates to cede three upcoming states to each other in hopes of stopping Trump from getting enough pledged delegates.

That didn't last long.

https://gma.yahoo.com/ted-cruz-says-no-alliance-john-kasich-stop-214604316--abc-news-topstories.html

 

[mustafur]

That didn't last long.

https://gma.yahoo.com/ted-cruz-says-no-alliance-john-kasich-stop-214604316--abc-news-topstories.html

Read it again, nothing has changed, just the wording of one question.

 

[mustafur]

It looks like Trump has some pretty stiff competition in this year's "worst presidential candidate" competition - meet Rodrigo Duterte, a nominee in the Philippine elections who in between making jokes about raping missionaries and threatening other countries who are appalled by it, has vowed that if he is elected, he will pardon himself for murder.

I guess you should really look up who the Clintons have pardoned, because they already beat that guy to doing that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy

Most people have came to the conclusion alot of these controversial Pardons where to Help Hillary's New York Senate Bid which happened right after.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I guess you should really look up who the Clintons have pardoned, because they already beat that guy to doing that.

Funny, I don't see Clinton pardoning himself for a murder he was accused of committing before he took office.

 

[Adamgp]

Read it again, nothing has changed, just the wording of one question.

I read it, thanks.

What they announced Sunday night was similar to Rubio's failed strategy with Kasich in Ohio and Florida. Kasich didn't play along with that one and he's not playing along with this one. This pact or alliance (or whatever you want to call it) failed from the start, just like the Ohio/Florida plan.

 

[mustafur]

Funny, I don't see Clinton pardoning himself for a murder he was accused of committing before he took office.

Guess It's ok to pardon Terrorists that killed 6 people.

I would also question the entire investigation of Whitewater were key witnesses refused to testify against the Clintons and got pardons for contempt of court that where almost certainly linked to the death of Vince Foster.

I read it, thanks.

What they announced Sunday night was similar to Rubio's failed strategy with Kasich in Ohio and Florida. Kasich didn't play along with that one and he's not playing along with this one. This pact or alliance (or whatever you want to call it) failed from the start, just like the Ohio/Florida plan.

From your own source: "There is no alliance. Kasich and I made a determination where to focus our energies, where to focus our assets, where to focus our resources," Cruz told reporters while campaigning in Indiana.

The Kasich campaign said it would "shift our campaign's resources West and give the Cruz campaign a clear path in Indiana" that same evening.

it's a changing of words.

 

[Adamgp]

From your own source: "There is no alliance. Kasich and I made a determination where to focus our energies, where to focus our assets, where to focus our resources," Cruz told reporters while campaigning in Indiana.

The Kasich campaign said it would "shift our campaign's resources West and give the Cruz campaign a clear path in Indiana" that same evening.

it's a changing of words.

Also from my own source:

Cruz's comments are an apparent attempt to walk back an agreement between the two campaigns to halt Trump in three upcoming primary contests.

And as I stated before, Kasich was never really going along with it. While he has cut spending in Indiana, he is still urging his supporters to vote for him and not ceding the state to Cruz. The pact has failed, almost from the beginning.