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Like what kind of situation exactly?I suspect a similar situation will occur with Bernie supporters.
Like what kind of situation exactly?I suspect a similar situation will occur with Bernie supporters.
You can't cast a vote against a candidate, only a vote for one.Or is it just more important to you to vote your personal convictions rather than voting in whatever way is most effectively anti-Democrat?
Writing in Bernie's name instead of voting for Hilary or The Donald.Like what kind of situation exactly?
We have had multiple parties for the history of our country. Media has perpetrated this false dichotomy. I had 8 options on my last presidential ballot. I had three for governor this past year.Yeah, but how likely is it? As far as I can remember (read as long as german media has been broadcasting news about the election) there only have been two parties, at least two that matter.
No. You can just leave it blank or not show up at all and not be counted in any way.Isn't it possible to vote invalid?
Voting is completely voluntary, requires registering, and you are only counted when you actually vote. It's why voter turnout is important here. You can be very popular, but if your supporters don't come to the polls no one gets their votes.If you're not taking up your right to vote and don't visit your pole site, your vote could/will be distributed to the candidates and parties,
Interesting thoughts from a former Bush White House staffer:
While I disagree with many of Hillary Clinton’s policies, she is clearly qualified to be president. She possesses judgment and self-restraint. She does not have a track record of irrational, risky, and unsound business decisions and public comments. She has a long record of public service. She can be trusted with controlling our military and nuclear weapons. Mr. Trump cannot.
Any Republican who claims that it’s better to elect Donald Trump than Hillary Clinton either lacks proper judgment, or has become so blinded by partisan ideology that they have lost objectivity.
Oh, I won't vote for either of them because I don't think either of them are competent to lead the country. Unfortunately though, third party candidates don't stand a chance winning in the US at this time, so even though I'm note voting for either of the two front runners, I know one of them will ultimately win.
Corporate media funding Clintons and not Trump is probably the reason.Why does everyone think that Trump will cause WW3? All this talk that we have seen so far is to gain votes and popularity. If he is a true politician most of his promises will turn out to be hot air at best.
American Mainstream media, that is all.I'm still confused on how a woman with her track record in political dealing in the past couple years to the past twenty years, still doesn't make people ask the question "and they're letting her run for President?"
"Vast right wing conspiracy". I believe she coined that term and I'd guess that a lot of her devotees think that most of the accusations against her are nothing more than Trumped up charges from the vast right wing conspiracy folks, whoever they might be, that don't amount to a hill of beans relative to what they perceive as her ability to govern. Some of it is also probably related to Bill and the high regard that his presidency is given.I'm still confused on how a woman with her track record in political dealing in the past couple years to the past twenty years, still doesn't make people ask the question "and they're letting her run for President?"
I mean if someone can fill me in on why Hillary is as good as the figure heads say, then why does she still end up in some sort of hot mess every now and again? I mean so because she'd done the political thing for most of her life, that's the reason people (some) think she would be best for the job?
and they're letting her run for President?
"Vast right wing conspiracy". I believe she coined that term and I'd guess that a lot of her devotees think that most of the accusations against her are nothing more than Trumped up charges from the vast right wing conspiracy folks, whoever they might be, that don't amount to a hill of beans relative to what they perceive as her ability to govern. Some of it is also probably related to Bill and the high regard that his presidency is given.
There is more to it then American mainstream media, there have been a few occasions where notable media personalities have put her feet to the fire. So I don't fully accept this, I mean it is a notable reason but there is clearly more to it. I mean the other point I make is when other politicians themselves back her and do so knowing well and good she's a viable candidate to win and one that may be a detriment to various leadership roles for the American people...that would have nothing to do with media.
She is a criminal in my mind first off however...
People look at the options available, her experience is valuable and so are her connections nationally as well as internationally. It's not to say I want to see her in office mind you but I can easily see why others do. She is better equipped than Bernie or Donald if for no other reason she is tough as nails and that is something needed in the POTUS.
Gary Johnson
That's the point though of the vast right wing conspiracy. If you are a Clinton fan, Bill or Hillary, you simply dismiss all those issues as right wingers just stirring up trouble. At the same time Americans will overlook a lot of real issues as well, if they believe you will do a good job. I mean look at The Donald. He's so politically incorrect he's said stuff that, if any other person in the history of American politics had said it, they'd be history instantly, yet somehow he gets away with it because people are willing to overlook those things as unimportant because they feel he'll do a good job as a whole.Which is fine, if you believe that somehow the RNC has control over history books in circulation. Which last I checked various american political books that high school (AP) and college students read, detail the Clinton administration and various gate scandals she had a hand in. Along with the various Kosovo lies as well. Now her Senate run is less covered I'd imagine, and there probably doesn't exist a book on the Benghazi issues.
Judge this how you want, but there is enough track record to make you know this is entirely possible:
Dropped for not being ''Establishment Enough''.
That's the point though of the vast right wing conspiracy. If you are a Clinton fan, Bill or Hillary, you simply dismiss all those issues as right wingers just stirring up trouble. At the same time Americans will overlook a lot of real issues as well, if they believe you will do a good job. I mean look at The Donald. He's so politically incorrect he's said stuff that, if any other person in the history of American politics had said it, they'd be history instantly, yet somehow he gets away with it because people are willing to overlook those things as unimportant because they feel he'll do a good job as a whole.
Her experience is valuable how?
they feel he'll do a good job as a whole.
Hillary is someone who has had many titles but when it actually comes to doing things crickets aplenty, find me something she proposed as a senator or Secretary of State and it's either meaningless or disastrous.She knows all the ins and outs of the u.s. government, this is always a debate when it comes to electing politicians especially career politicians. Joe Lieberman once said "of course I'm a career politician, who is better for the job?" Something like that he said. Like it or not a large chunk of our population agree with that sentiment.
She knows all the ins and outs of the u.s. government, this is always a debate when it comes to electing politicians especially career politicians. Joe Lieberman once said "of course I'm a career politician, who is better for the job?" Something like that he said. Like it or not a large chunk of our population agree with that sentiment.
Hillary is someone who has had many titles but when it actually comes to doing things crickets aplenty, find me something she proposed as a senator or Secretary of State and it's either meaningless or disastrous.
Experience is a code for existing, the real thing that matters is what you do in that ''experience'''.
The only thing she has a proven record at being successful at is getting Donors, she got more donor money this cycle then any other nominee in any party.
So what she knows the ins and outs? I don't see how that makes her a great POTUS, I mean maintaining shop, yeah great, actually making critical changes...no. There are plenty of people with a background in law, history, major leadership, and politics or economics that don't have to be career politicians of any sort to lead. I don't think people necessarily agree, more so find it easier to vote based on that. Which is why things like say Whitewater or Private Server.
You know that she is very popular and most likely will be the next president right? So if what I'm saying is wrong than there has to be another reason, I don't think I'm wrong however as I've seen quite a few elections in my days.
I wish someone here was a Hillary supporter, I would love a debate.
You don't have to be a Hillary supporter to support Hillary. She was the shoe-in nominee before the process began and Bernie was a surprisingly able challenger. If you're an American Democrat, you have no choice but to support Hillary, she's your candidate whether you like it or not and has been for some time. Same goes for Trump. He's more divisive at this point, but if you're a Republican you have no choice but to vote for him if you want your side to win. Sometimes you vote for the lesser of two evils.I wish someone here was a Hillary supporter, I would love a debate.
Earlier this year, Fox said that he would not pay for Trump’s “****ing wall,” and called Trump “Ignorant … crazy … egocentric … nasty … [a] false prophet.” Trump then called on Fox to apologize. On Wednesday, he did so — in an exclusive interview with Breitbart News — and added that he wanted Trump to come to Mexico to see the border from the other side.
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You don't have to be a Hillary supporter to support Hillary.
If you're an American Democrat, you have no choice but to support Hillary,
I don't have to like or support Hillary to be a Democrat and simply go along with, and go through the motions of supporting her simply because I see Trump as an unacceptable alternative. Of course you can vote for whomever you choose, but I don't think most people feel or act that way. I think they vote along party lines and love or hate the person on your side, they are going to get your vote either way.It's kindof impossible not to be a Hillary supporter if you support Hillary.
...lest any of us think we can vote for whomever we choose.