Presidential Election: 2012

[Tornado]

I like that. I think I'll try that if I ever get pulled over.

"Officer, you are clearly mistaken. I wasn't speeding, because I am a better judge of the law than you are."

 

[Dapper]

I like that. I hope you use that next time you get pulled over.

"Officer, you are clearly mistaken. I wasn't speeding, because I am a better judge of that than you are."

You realize I was talking to Keef, not a mod, right?
Essentially, your analogy makes zero sense.

 

[Tornado]

You realize I was talking to Keef, not a mod, right?
Essentially, your analogy makes zero sense.

Let's do a rundown:
There are people in place who enforce the AUP around here. You are not one of them. When someone does something that obviously violates the AUP as you are purporting to be the case in this situation, you are supposed to report that person. You instead chose to try to enforce the AUP as you saw fit (clearly in an attempt to shutter discussion) rather than involve the people responsible for doing that (probably because they wouldn't listen if you tried).




You were questioned about this:

I'd simply love to know what makes you an expert on the subject of how this website is run over, say, the people put in place to actually run it.

I read.

So you clearly think you know better than the site staff do, or you would have done what you are supposed to do and just reported it (and, though I'm just guessing here since the AUP pretty obviously doesn't mean what you are trying to make it mean, been rebuffed).





So what now? Do we jump to the part where you scream that I'm taking what you said out of context and then run away from the thread for a couple of weeks? Because it seems kind of early in the "discussion" for that.

 

[Dapper]

Let's do a rundown:
There are people in place who enforce the AUP around here. You are not one of them. When someone does something that violates the AUP, you are supposed to report that person. You instead chose to try to enforce the AUP as you saw fit (clearly in an attempt to shutter discussion) rather than involve the people responsible for doing that (probably because they wouldn't listen if you tried).




You were questioned about this:



So you clearly think you know better than the site staff do, or you would have done what you are supposed to do and just reported it (and, though I'm just guessing here since the AUP pretty obviously doesn't mean what you are trying to make it mean, been rebuffed).





So what now? Do we jump to the part where you scream that I'm taking what you said out of context and then run away from the thread for a couple of weeks? Because it seems kind of early in the "discussion" for that.

I like Keef! Why would I report him?

And thanks for all the effort. 👍

 

[Danoff]

I like Keef! Why would I report him?

And thanks for all the effort. 👍

Classic Dapper. I'm actually kinda starting to like this guy. He's nothing if not consistent.

 

[arora]

I've always liked Ears4, I don't agree with a single word he says, ever, but agreement is not the basis, respect may be, or in his case understanding is enough.

You're still way off base this time though, I might wright up a tl;dr after I eat dinner

 

[Keef]

 

[Touring Mars]

I hope people don't mind, but I've moved the recent discussion regarding the US economy and, more specifically, the issue of the gold standard etc. to a new thread, because I think this thread should remain specifically about the election - given that this side discussion is already on its 10th page, I thought it was a good idea!

New thread is here:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=249252

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I hope people don't mind, but I've moved the recent discussion regarding the US economy and, more specifically, the issue of the gold standard etc. to a new thread, because I think this thread should remain specifically about the election - given that this side discussion is already on its 10th page, I thought it was a good idea!

New thread is here:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=249252

Not to disagree with you, but what I'm wanting to know is what everyone is actually wanting us to talk about? As far as Gold Standard and U.S. economics go that is a big if not the biggest talking point for this U.S election. So how is this not thread worthy? We're talking about issues that are important to the election...

As far as side discussion goes, all of it has been, if it hasn't then several pages could be made into other threads. Also three (I believe) other mods didn't seem to think to warn us about being off topic.

All in all I'm just trying to understand what should be talked about in here so I don't have to visit other threads to debate a topic. As a American this is election worthy talking points. Thanks

 

[Keef]

It should have gone in a different thread I think. It's a deep topic in itself and it distracts from news related to the election. We could have numerous spinoffs of election topics if we really wanted.

 

[Liquid]

So how is this not thread worthy? We're talking about issues that are important to the election...

Because we were talking generally, not relating it to the election like, "Ron Paul says this..., Mitt Romney says that..., New Gingrich says something non-sensical...".

 

[Joel]

New Gingrich says something non-sensical...".

Maybe there's gold on the moon

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Because we were talking generally, not relating it to the election like, "Ron Paul says this..., Mitt Romney says that..., New Gingrich says something non-sensical...".

Sorry but that's wrong as well, or not fully correct I should say. There are several links that were ported over to that thread. With Ron Paul talking about the Gold standard. Then other users bringing up why it wont work and the way Obama is doing things is just fine. Those are two canidates.

The way you put it is almost like sound bites. If that is what this thread is for and not freely expressing (like we were) certain topics, then CNN, MSNBC or FOX would be better to use. Also just to put a nice little bow on it, that all started with talking about the Ron Paul idea of a gold standard, with a certain user disagreeing and saying how it wouldn't work. One must talk in a general format to understand. OR at least those who have no idea about this election and come here to learn or might come to learn. Those people will need us to talk somewhat in a general sense to get a grasp. Thanks Mazda but you haven't told me anything that thread didn't have to begin with, that didn't warrant to move.

Maybe there's gold on the moon

, Neil Degrass Tyson thought his idea of a Moon base wasn't so bad. I have to agree with they way Tyson talks about it. However, I don't believe that Newt is trying to get to a Kennedy esque type stage but rather get a massive florida following after seeing NASA do a big draw back.

I don't see an issue with trying to establish such a thing. The way Newt does it though seems to be more pandering and less ambition.

 

[arora]

Have no worries LMS, it's quickly changed to the 'smoke signal' thread anyway

So Obama played the social darwinism card today, of course, because inefficient large federal gov is the only answer to save our poor. Because state governments have been proven incapable of things like welfare reform, because if every dollar used to educate our young is not first touched by the messiah himself no one will learn. It's getting rediculous these people, I don't blame them for trying but how about the populous realizes big brother is hurting more then helping. [/rant]

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Have no worries LMS, it's quickly changed to the 'smoke signal' thread anyway

So Obama played the social darwinism card today, of course, because inefficient large federal gov is the only answer to save our poor. Because state governments have been proven incapable of things like welfare reform, because if every dollar used to educate our young is not first touched by the messiah himself no one will learn. It's getting rediculous these people, I don't blame them for trying but how about the populous realizes big brother is hurting more then helping. [/rant]

So basically he is saying screw what the states set in legislations because he doesn't think they're doing a good enough job. I get this feeling that Obama thinks he wears a red S under that suit and tie. Also this shows once again that he isn't respecting or being constitutionally correct here, if he thinks that the State's rights shouldn't be followed. Yet why should this surprise people that have been aware of this crap from several presidents, especially a current one who signed in NDAA after saying he wouldn't due to what it went against constitution wise.

 

[arora]

He's saying anyone who does not suport out of control fed gov intitlement programs is a big meanie who'd just assume the poor died off, natural selection but socially. It's derogatory and inflamory and he more or less shot it directly at Romney.

What ever happened to statesmen? He's speech sounded so whiney .....

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

He's saying anyone who does not suport out of control fed gov intitlement programs is a big meanie who'd just assume the poor died off, natural selection but socially. It's derogatory and inflamory and he more or less shot it directly at Romney.

What ever happened to statesmen? He's speech sounded so whiney .....

I still see both in the same light especially in the area he's crying (figurative) about.

 

[arora]

Yeah, I knew we were on the same page, just figured I'd discount what I rambled and explain why I did 👍

 

[Liquid]

Triple primary win for Romney

So where does this leave the rest of the candidates? The longer Santorum and Gingrich are in the race, the better it is for Paul.

 

[RTSolvalou]

Thanks in advance for voting Obama in, the rest of the world really appreciates it 👍 (We know we're not going to get a random war with him)

 

[Liquid]

Thanks in advance for voting Obama in, the rest of the world really appreciates it

I'm not so sure these days. Sure, he'd be much better than Gingrich or Santorum but despite wanting to bring troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan he still sent some back into Libya...

 

[Sam48]

I'm not so sure these days. Sure, he'd be much better than Gingrich or Santorum but despite wanting to bring troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan he still sent some back into Libya...

I think he was being sarcastic given the fact that he said:

(We know we're not going to get a random war with him)

When in fact we did get into a random war, as you stated.

 

[Liquid]

Curse the internet and the difficulty reading tone and intentions.

 

[Dapper]

When in fact we did get into a random war, as you stated.

Where the hell is Famine to berate you for weeks on end for saying... the truth? Obama did NOtHING in Libya! Attack GTP zealots, attack!

That is to any member willing to say positively Obama had any bit to do with Libya, not just Sam!

 

[Famine]

I'm still having difficulty seeing and typing - one hand is embedded in my skull following the facepalm at "Gold does nothing".

 

[Dapper]

I'm still having difficulty seeing and typing - one hand is embedded in my skull following the facepalm at "Gold does nothing".

I've never met you, but it is not hard to believe there is a hand embedded in your head.

 

[Liquid]

I'm still having difficulty seeing and typing - one hand is embedded in my skull following the facepalm at "Gold does nothing".

Duh, Famine. Only Mr. T has a use for gold (!)

Maybe Dapper would have been better aware of the properties of gold had he researched first and not made that outburst.

After all, silence is golden...

 

[Tornado]

Mr. T by himself had a hand in the entirety of the 1980s. It can't be a coincidence that the prevalence of Mr. T in the media is directly related to the prosperity of the American economy. Now that that he is (sadly) no longer in the public eye anymore, I suppose that means that gold really doesn't do anything anymore.




So I think we should vote for whatever president would promise to make another Rocky movie.

 

[Famine]

So I think we should vote for whatever president would promise to make another Rocky movie.

I pity that fool.

Also,

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There's others.

 

[Liquid]

Surprised Mr. T hasn't done any Cash4Gold adverts yet.