Project CARS 2 General Discussion Thread - Out Now on PS4/XB1/PC

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Cluck
Why do people persist in wanting to compare apples with bananas? iRacing feels like iRacing. Assetto Corsa feels like Assetto Corsa. RFactor2 feels like RFactor2. RRRE feels like RRRE. Guess what? Project CARS 2 feels like Project CARS 2.

Since they all feel markedly different, it stands to reason that they can't all be 'right' and they also can't all be 'wrong' so what's the point in comparing them?
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I'm talking about quality and realism of handling. Although those sims are different imo they are all of good quality handling.
It's all very well saying it's better than the first game but as I know he likes ac handling I'm asking him if he feels it's as good.
 
Cluck
Why do people persist in wanting to compare apples with bananas? iRacing feels like iRacing. Assetto Corsa feels like Assetto Corsa. RFactor2 feels like RFactor2. RRRE feels like RRRE. Guess what? Project CARS 2 feels like Project CARS 2.

Since they all feel markedly different, it stands to reason that they can't all be 'right' and they also can't all be 'wrong' so what's the point in comparing them?
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IRacing, Assetto Corsa, RFactor2 and R3E are all SIM, or let's call them apple if you prefer, they do not feel exactly or taste the same but they definitely do not taste like bananas, Forza and PCars are arcade, or Bananas, maybe not exactly the same banana, but definitely not apple.
The question we are really asking is: is PCars 2 an apple or a banana? Or something else altougether?
Arcade and SIM are both right, agree on that, but one interested in one is probably no so interested in the other, although some peoplee are know to enjoy both equally.:sly:
 
People, let's stay on topic. What's with all these apples and bananas? I need to know if a tomato is a fruit or a vegetable! :sly:

Considering Felix's history with PC1 and SMS, I value the opinion he offered. PC2 improving upon PC1 is a good start. I know what I want from PC2, and I'm excited by everything I've seen and read. I've been playing Assetto Corsa exclusively in 2017. As great as AC is in delivering pure driving (but lacking in other areas), it might be collecting dust on my shelf if PC2 fulfills its potential.
 
Cote Dazur
IRacing, Assetto Corsa, RFactor2 and R3E are all SIM, or let's call them apple if you prefer, they do not feel exactly or taste the same but they definitely do not taste like bananas, Forza and PCars are arcade, or Bananas, maybe not exactly the same banana, but definitely not apple.
The question we are really asking is: is PCars 2 an apple or a banana? Or something else altougether?
Arcade and SIM are both right, agree on that, but one interested in one is probably no so interested in the other, although some peoplee are know to enjoy both equally.:sly:
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Sorry, but if you call PCars arcade, then IRacing, Assetto Corsa, RFactor2 and R3E are all arcade too, since PCars simulates more than each of them.
I play them all and in my opinion PCars can stand right beside them.

From feedback I've received from friends, PCars2 betters them all.
 
nrosko
I'm talking about quality and realism of handling. Although those sims are different imo they are all of good quality handling.
It's all very well saying it's better than the first game but as I know he likes ac handling I'm asking him if he feels it's as good.
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Me saying that I almost immediately felt one with the car is probably high praise enough, I reckon? That said, I cant really offer any comparisons because I never played AC or any other sim besides pcars1/2 with Fanatec gear, so until I have played it on my humble rumble T300, I cant say X or Y or Z feels better. What I can tell you is that there were 2 other avid sim racers that were part of pcars1 development and who are not around for pcars2 neither, they both played it for the first time there as well and they both felt that it was a massive improvement over pcars1, too.

@ clucky: No worries, mate! You' ll always be welcome to join us whenever we go back! :cheers:
 
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bleeder
I only run around 30 cars on PS4 in pCARS as any more tends to introduce some tearing or performance issues, so if 32 is max for 2 I'm happy.
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Another way of asking this is, with all the upgrades in PC2, can we ran 32 cars on base consoles without a performance hit?
 
AllReD
Another way of asking this is, with all the upgrades in PC2, can we ran 32 cars on base consoles without a performance hit?

But i dont care. Running 45 cars was fun and something new on consoles. Im completely sad by this. How is le mans gonna feel now or how is the monza going to feel. If the 32 cars is max then it better be max for apl tracks. However, im still buying the game so i dont know why im ranting.
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Animera
Sorry, but if you call PCars arcade, then IRacing, Assetto Corsa, RFactor2 and R3E are all arcade too, since PCars simulates more than each of them.
I play them all and in my opinion PCars can stand right beside them.

From feedback I've received from friends, PCars2 betters them all.
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^ I agree on the last sentence! 👍

I think PCARS 1 is better with a good ffb setup! Its more vehicle specific. I do find it hard to drive PCARS 1 after playing PCARS 2. I still cannot understand, how in the world Assetto Corsa has got the so called, "Gold Standard," of feel. :confused:

When, I drive on a daily basis at work 100-120+ mph https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/ . Project CARS 2 vehicles feel the best out of all of the sims! It has a very good feel with the cheaper wheels. I just need a DD wheel and VR, now!
 
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GTsimms
^ I agree on the last sentence! 👍

I think PCARS 1 is better with a good ffb setup! Its more vehicle specific. I do find it hard to drive PCARS 1 after playing PCARS 2. I still cannot understand, how in the world Assetto Corsa has got the so called, "Gold Standard," of feel. :confused:

When, I drive on a daily basis at work 100-120+ mph https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/ . Project CARS 2 vehicles feel the best out of all of the sims! It has a very good feel with the cheaper wheels. I just need a DD wheel and VR, now!
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Oculus is on sale (I think it still is) for $400. Can't go wrong with that.
 
I got it... last night i finally pre ordered it. Funny thing is the count down clock stops at December 30. Is the release date still September?

GTsimms
I still cannot understand, how in the world Assetto Corsa has got the so called, "Gold Standard," of feel. :confused:
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I don't think I even understand your question!!!
Assetto got gold standard of feel simply because is by far the most realistic feel you can get out of a Sim these days.
Perfect physics, perfect tire modeling...
 
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Schmiggz
I don't think I even understand your question!!!
Assetto got gold standard of feel simply because is by far the most realistic feel you can get out of a Sim these days.
Perfect physics, perfect tire modeling...
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Schmiggz
I got it... last night i finally pre ordered it. Funny thing is the count down clock stops at December 30. Is the release date still September?
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Yea mines is saying the same thing. I pre-ordered right when it was available to and it's been like this for awhile. I wonder when Sony is gonna change that.
 
Schmiggz
I don't think I even understand your question!!!
Assetto got gold standard of feel simply because is by far the most realistic feel you can get out of a Sim these days.
Perfect physics, perfect tire modeling...
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Perfect physics! Well, I know several things AC doesn't simulate very well. It's definitely your opinion of what a vehicle should feel like! One of these things is simulated very well in Project CARS 2.:drool:
 
just had a look at the pcars2 thread in the AC forum. They try to nitpick on every little detail in shown videos, while you don't need to look for details on their "godlike" AC to find the flaws. That's very hypocritical...
Don't get me wrong (the guys of you who love AC), AC is good and fine and so on (i even play it myself sometimes...)... but pcars2 is just a level above for me, in every aspect... sorry.

In general the people over there are very salty and try to avoid every positive comment (about pcars(2) and SMS). Every positivity is turned into negativity after some posts. They just should first look at their "own" sim, there are enough flaws to begin with.

And of course the Ex-WMD member who said he got booted (but he booted himself instead!!) is now kinda trash-talking about pcars2 while in WMD forum he had only positive comments in general.. but what can you do... that's people when they leave in a huff...

I'm glad that this forum seems to have no place for these "sim elitists"...
 
GTsimms
Perfect physics! Well, I know several things AC doesn't simulate very well. It's definitely your opinion of what a vehicle should feel like! One of these things is simulated very well in Project CARS 2.:drool:
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What are these things?
 
I didn't want to start a war on here about what sim is best its been done to death. Just wanted more of an insight from those who have similar tastes in sims as me rather than those who like the first game or mainly play games like forza etc.
 
Just learned a fact about the P1 in PC2 :) And its somewhat bad news/Good news

From a user on YT
Fun fact: The P1 was originally not going to be included in the game. It was agreed upon by SMS and McLaren that the P1 GTR would be a replacement. When SMS got the license for Porsche, (first progress threads added in July of 2016) which included the 918, and since Ferrari was also going have the LaFerrari, it took little convincing to have the P1 return
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Makes me sad that the P1 road car was almost left out :( Thank god for Porsche and Ferrari :bowdown:
 
Here goes a real good video about the Pcars 2 career mode!
It's in Spanish, but you can see really good all what the new career offers.

Seems to be a little problem, let's see what @IanBell think about it.

On the start off the video he said that he got already a career in progress saved but start a new one to show it correctly, but when he started he received the "affinity event" of Ginetta meanwhile he didn't even choose that series or did a race,so he said that it could be a bug or if it's intended because he has other saved career it shouldnt unlock in the new save really.

I know it's WIP, but also hope that one save don't unlock things in an other save in the career mode.

Is that intended or really a bug mr bell?

Here goes the video!

 

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