Project CARS 2 Patch and Update Discussion

[Ian Bell]

@IanBell , I'm hearing that we will need to delete any saved setups before we do the update, is that correct?

Yes.

 

[Alex ONeill]

Yes.

Thank you, works out perfectly then as we are racing our last race of our GT4 series this Sunday!

 

[FOG-Smokebeer]

It's looking like Tuesday guys and it's our fault and no one elses sorry. What happened is the hot patch we pushed out at the last second was accepted by Europe but the US insisted on that being retested which is normal protocol.

Europe had to get ready to go out for a nice glass of wine and a fish supper

 

[Scaff]

Initial Impression of Patch 3.01 (PS4 Pro)

 

[05XR8]

On XBONE, replays do look smoother. I did notice AI were affected when forced off the dry line and when the track got wet. They slowed up considerably.

Accolades again to SMS for producing a great game. I'm stuck on TCR again. Played from 7am and it's 8:59pm right now. Add Honda, VW, Peugeot & Audi and this game will dethrone ToCA1 as my favorite Touring Car game of all time(I'm waiting to see how the '66 RTR handles, before I label this my favorite RACING game of all time ).

 

[HammyMansell]

Initial Impression of Patch 3.01 (PS4 Pro)

I was just going to ask people's opinions here about patch 3.01, as i won't be able to try it until way into the future Although by then we'll be on patch 8.01 or something like that lol! Thanks @Scaff !!

 

[phl0w]

Yes.

In Response to:

Alex ONeill: ↑
@IanBell , I'm hearing that we will need to delete any saved setups before we do the update, is that correct?

May I ask, why, exactly?
I didn't know about that and didn't have the chance to do so because my PS4pro is hibernating all the time and downloads+installs patches automatically. TBH, I don't notice anything, game runs fine.

 

[Ryanswannell]

In Response to:
May I ask, why, exactly?
I didn't know about that and didn't have the chance to do so because my PS4pro is hibernating all the time and downloads+installs patches automatically. TBH, I don't notice anything, game runs fine.

My assumption would be that your created setups may not work as they would have done pre patch, e.g custom tire pressures may cause the car to handle differently compared to before the update.

 

[phl0w]

My assumption would be that your created setups may not work as they would have done pre patch, e.g custom tire pressures may cause the car to handle differently compared to before the update.

Thanks for responding. Well, from that I take that it's safe to delete the setups after patching the game? The wording "(...)need to delete any setup before we do the update(...)" made it sound like a necessity to delete own setups before patching pC2.

 

[killerjimbag]

Thanks for responding. Well, from that I take that it's safe to delete the setups after patching the game? The wording "(...)need to delete any setup before we do the update(...)" made it sound like a necessity to delete own setups before patching pC2.

Here is the patch notes,look at the bottom. It says to delete old setups.
Online / Multiplayer

Fixed an issue where, on Xbox One, some players who were sent an invite whilst suspended would be unable to join the lobby.
New game mode - The Online Championship game mode is now available, allowing players to compete online in full championships, spanning multiple rounds.
Fixed an exploit where some players could load custom setups in Community Events when Default Setups are enabled.
Improved logging and syncing when joining online games already in progress.
Fix for an online issue where players would be shown an incorrect error message when attempting to join a game session which was full.
Online Reputation: When being kicked from a race, the system now checks your recent history to help decide if points should be deducted from your ranking score.
Online Reputation: Fixed a bug where remaining players would not score for a win against disconnected players.
Resolved a problem where a previously kicked player, joining back into a game after accepting an invite, would be auto-kicked.
For players joining an active qualifying or practice session, there is now a 3-minute cut-off as the session approaches completion, after which it will no longer be possible to join the session.
An error message is now displayed when an incorrect password is entered when joining a password-protected lobby.

Career

New Invitational Event - McLaren 720S VIP Challenge.
Fix for career multi-class races, so that the finish position within the class is used for series progression, rather than the overall race position.
Nissan Skyline Silhouette, Nissan Skyline BNR32, Nissan R89C, and Porsche 961 can now be used in Career mode.
Fix for an issue where pop-ups for unlocking Invitational events were displayed in the wrong location.

Controllers

Fanatec CSWB v2 – various adjustments and improvements on XB1.
Fanatec - improved anti-jolt and high-frequency anti-vibe on the CSWB series.
Logitech - Fix for G29 and G920 lock stops.
Thrustmaster - Improvements for the 458 Italia.
Improvements to various controller’s vibration effects.

GUI and HUD improvements

Session information such as race duration is now displayed on the pre-race menu.
Changed the HUD colouring scale for race rain tyres.
Added a dialog to show replay saving progress.
Change to the way the Start Type is displayed on the Round dialog so that it matches the Race Settings dialog.
Fix for an issue where a menu would become disabled when moving 'down' from the bottom of the menu.
Updates to various buttons to better indicate when a button is selected/highlighted.
Fix for buttons on online post-race results screen so that they only show when they can be pressed.
Fixed cases where the RPM Gauge on the HUD was not matching the actual RPM of the car.
Fixed loading bar to become invisible when local loading is complete.
Added new Help Text for Menu Spring Strength in FFB settings.
Added fuel estimation to Tuning Setup screen and ICM.
Added auto-scroll to a number of info feeds to prevent overlapping text.
Added the name of the car setup currently in use to the 'Setup' button on the Pre-Race screen.
Fix for fuel being displayed incorrectly as mass, not volume.
Improvements to the lap timing and visual-split timing HUD widgets.
Fix for incorrect number of records being counted on Community Event screen.
Fixed an issue in Time Trial where Loaded Ghosts and Options on the Pre-Race menu were highlighted at the same time if the player added multiple ghosts in Time Trial.
Fixed an issue where an incorrect weather forecast icon is displayed for the client in the lobby details screen.

Handling/Damage

Various tyre behaviour tweaks and improvements to the different tyre compounds.
Altered the pre-heating temperatures of various tyres to prevent them from being outside optimum temp range at race starts.
New rain tyre compound improvements for Group C, GTP, all Formula cars, GT1, and LMP900.
Driveline improvements with increased synchro effect for Hewland-type gearbox
Lowered the time to jam gears together after a missed shift for all gearboxes.
Changes to Vintage Lotus treaded tyres to improve wet speed balance.
Altered radiator damage to make it more progressive, and not accumulate damage from minor impacts.
Fix for issues with radiator settings on the Toyota GT86 GT4, and Rocket Bunny versions, which under some conditions were causing engine overheating.
Changes to downshift protection based on vehicle speed.
Lowered minimum shift time for cars with H-pattern racing gearboxes.
Improved physics setup and damage for Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.8 AMG.
Fixed missing radiator damage for Ford Escorts, and Ford Mustangs.
Improvements to Formula Renault 3.5 default stable setup.
Performance balancing changes to the LMP1, GT3 and GT4 Classes.
Refinements to Vintage Low Grip tyre.
Balanced performance for BMW M3 GT4, and Ford Mustang Boss 302 R1.
Improved Modern Touring Car tyre compound.
Road car tyres: Tuned the aquaplaning and more sensible behaviour in very deep water.
Increased threshold for detaching front wings of Formula cars.
Adjusted various default setups:
– Aston DB11: Loose
– Aston Vulcan: Loose, and Stable
– BMW 320 TC: Stable
– BMW M3 E30: Loose, and Stable
– Chevy Camaro ZL1: Loose, and OEM
– Ferrari 330 P4: Loose, and Stable
– Ford Fusion Stockcar: Loose.
BMW 2002 StanceWorks: Fixed tyre texture, better strut geometry for kingpin angle and scrub radius, improved drag centre of forces in the aero model.

AI

Improved AI in low- and high-speed cornering.
Improved balance between player and AI in wet conditions.
Improvements to general AI behaviour and racecraft across all tracks.
Tweaks to how AI are affected by snow and ice.
Improvements to the AI driving on slick tyres in wet weather.
AI Practice and Qualifying grip levels rebalanced to better match expected behaviour.
Better balanced AI speed on corner exit.
Generally improved the AI racing balance and ability across many tracks.

Audio

Update to various AI car sounds.
Added new sounds for lower pitch skidding.
Improved AI audio levels in replays.
Improvements to Lamborghini Huracán engine audio.
Reduced the skid sounds for the McLaren 720S.
Modified falloff curves for surface and skid sounds.
Updated sound mix for replays, with improved reverb settings for tunnels and bridges.
New tyre skid sound effects for treaded tyres.
Fix for an issue with audio not panning to all speakers in 7.1 under certain conditions.

Tracks

California Highway Stage 3 - Added an alternate start line to clean up occasional start line issues.
DirtFish (all) - Fixed an issue with render flickering on main building.
DirtFish Mill Run - Fix for an exploit to prevent unrealistic lap times (This includes a leaderboard reset for Time Trial and Community Events on DirtFish Mill Run to remove bogus lap times).
Fuji - Fixed an issue with some render flickering on the front of the pit buildings.
Indianapolis Motor Speedway Oval - Updated dynamic marks, updated AI alternate start line for better cleaner starts.
Circuit de 24 Heures du Mans - Fix for render flickering issue on the fence left of start straight, and in the curve entering the long straight.
Lohéac - Fix for an issue on one kerb where the physics would didn’t behave correctly.
Oulton Park - Fixed floating white lines near entry to pit lane.
Red Bull Ring—National: Changed some dynamic barriers and fixed LODs.
Red Bull Ring GP and National layouts - Fixes for various Replay and Pre-Race camera issues.
Sakitto - Fixed various render popup issues.
Fixed issues with the race start at various tracks.
Adjusted the pit lane placement of Pit Limiter Entry and Exit boards at several tracks.
Improvements to track cut settings at various tracks.

Vehicles

Audi A1 Quattro - Rebalanced the AI in rain vs. dry.
BAC Mono - New wet tyre compound.
BMW 320 TC - Fixes for gaps in the rear of cockpit, and fixed cockpit display clipping.
Caterham Seven 620 R - Improved wet tyre.
Chevrolet Camaro 1969 - New suspension geometry to better match the Hotchkiss design at the rear and SLA up front.
Chevrolet Corvette C7 Z06 - OEM setup differential opened up.
Dallara DW12 Road - New player rain compound, and new AI wet grip adjustments.
Formula X & Dallara IR-12 - Adjusted engine lifetime model.
Ferrari 488 GT3 - Reduced extra slip allowance at low speeds for better stability.
Ferrari F40 LM - Fixed various cockpit detail issues that were visible in VR.
Ford Escort RS1600 - Adjusted dry and wet speeds for AI to match latest physics changes.
Ford Falcon V8 Supercar - New rain compound.
Ford Falcon V8 Superca -  Added a new tyre carcass and made some minor improvements to car handling.
Formula Renault 3.5 - Increased rolling drag and friction torque to AI to balance their speed on straights.
Ginetta G40 - Improved AI tyre stiffness, grip and rolling resistance, to better match player, added new Junior tyre.
KTM X-Bow GT4 - Changed spring and damper data, and added optional final drive ratio.
Ligier JS P - Fixed exhaust positions.
Ligier LMP3 - Fixed rear 3rd bump stop having no range adjustment.
Lotus Type 51 - Increased players wet grip to better match the AI.
Mazda MX-5 Radbul - Engine cooling and durability adjustment to prevent engine from blowing after one lap. New drift setup added.
McLaren P1 GTR - Updated the differentials for Stable, and Loose default setups, for more stability and ease of driving.
Mercedes-Benz AMG GT3 - Improved default setup to improve stability.
Nissan Fairlady Z GTS - Various fixes enabling radiator damage, texture fixes, better drag balance, and bigger set of gear ratios.
Nissan Fairlady Z GTS-II - Raised shift light RPM-trigger to 8,000 RPM.
Nissan Skyline Super Silhouette - Boost adjustment for default setup to make the car more competitive with other Group 5 cars.
Porsche 936/77 - Added a wider set of gear ratios.
RWD P20 LMP2 - Changed shift lights to better match engine peak-power.
Toyota GT86 - Altered aero positioning, and fixed an aero-lose problem without changing the setup.
GT4 cars - Change to the tyre carcass model.
LMP1 Cars - Fixed an issue where the AI weren't using the hybrid system, causing an imbalance with the player.
LMP2 cars - Reduced aero drag by 35lbf @ 150mph.
Various road cars - Changed OEM tyres to the correct ones.
Kart - Disabled differential setup adjustments, new tyre carcass construction.
Improved dirt texture on various cars.
Fixed mud and snow textures on various cars.

Other Improvements

Added a Graphics Bias option for the Xbox One X
Fixed an issue in Time Trial where the player could load a ghost’s setup for a different car from the player’s car if the selected ghost was in the same class as the player’s car.
Improved the rendering of the edges of LiveTrack puddles for off-road/off-track areas.
Fixed an issue with mud and dust particles being visible inside cockpits.
Improvements to the wet track darkening render effect.
Much-improved motion blur and bokeh effects.
Fix for an issue where, in certain cases, LiveTrack conditions could be carried over from one game type to another.
Improved the synchronisation of clouds and rainfall, and the effects on cars.
Fix for a red/yellow graphical glitch sometimes appearing on track surface.
Fix for an occasional crash when switching shadow detail level.
Fixed an intermittent crash when entering text for a new pit strategy.
Fixed an issue where occasionally some AI cars would not move on the first viewing of a replay.
Fix for an issue that would reset the player’s tuning setup to default when Pausing and choosing to return to pits.
...and many other small tweaks, improvements and performance enhancements.

*Hot fix for crash when starting the game in certain scenarios in non-English installations.

To make sure that everything is working as intended, please delete your pre-patch setups and create new ones.

 

[Daz555]

Only with incompatible exe's trying to race together. It will happen each time and will be exacerbated if we have staggered patch releases like we're seeing this time.

If happening before any other players are involved or have joined. Happens most for me when selecting the cars and class etc for a server I'm planning to start.

 

[05XR8]

Watching a replay at Sugo and the front of my car is out of focus, but the AI cars behind are tracked in complete focus.

 

[Harry Freq]

Something crazy going on with penalties since the patch...myself in 3rd overtakes 2nd cleanly on the last corner at long beach and then i get a pen saying i need to give the the 4th place guy his place back who is no where near us 3 upfront...is this a bug?

Also when starting races the guy behind me rams the back of my car every single race if i dont get a perfect start.

 

[StefanMac]

Online connectivity doesnt seem to have improved, still getting randomly kicked/being stuck on the waiting screen forever :/

 

[05XR8]

Something crazy going on with penalties since the patch...myself in 3rd overtakes 2nd cleanly on the last corner at long beach and then i get a pen saying i need to give the the 4th place guy his place back who is no where near us 3 upfront...is this a bug?

Also when starting races the guy behind me rams the back of my car every single race if i dont get a perfect start.

The ram at the start always happens.

The penalty thing is new to me as well. I've been getting +2, +4, +5 second penalties and drive thrus for no reason(I also have turned off track limits). I even was told to do a drive thru with 1 minute to go. I drove past the pits and finished the race several places down from my spot at the finish line. It usually ends the race if I ignore it. Must be a bug.

 

[paoloevans]

Be very careful now when entering pit lane!! I have twice been DISQUALIFIED from the race when entering a bit to hot. One was in the final hour of an 8 hour endurance race.

This is WITHOUT rules and flags on by the way. Just warning everyone

 

[Harry Freq]

The ram at the start always happens.

The penalty thing is new to me as well. I've been getting +2, +4, +5 second penalties and drive thrus for no reason(I also have turned off track limits). I even was told to do a drive thru with 1 minute to go. I drove past the pits and finished the race several places down from my spot at the finish line. It usually ends the race if I ignore it. Must be a bug.

I went to Knockhill a few races later and was getting non stop slowdown penalties the few races i had there. Also the Lambo physics seem awful compared to the demo with the demo car feeling planted and full game driving a huge piece of jelly around around.

 

[Ryanswannell]

Game is near perfect for me after the latest patch, now if SMS could just make the AI set similar lap times across practice, qualifying and race sessions I'd be more than happy with the game 👍.

 

[05XR8]

I went to Knockhill a few races later and was getting non stop slowdown penalties the few races i had there. Also the Lambo physics seem awful compared to the demo with the demo car feeling planted and full game driving a huge piece of jelly around around.

As an addition, I did feel Knockhill was very low grip. Haven't raced there much, but noticed more graphic dust on the racing line at the back mid part of the circuit(on XBONE).

For me, everything else is fine, perfect even. The TCR new tyre is excellent. No more spinning out on cold tyres. The AI race side by side without having convulsions.
Lift off oversteer is pretty much gone. Though the rear is more controllable.
The graphics also appear better in replay. The sound is balanced between AI and User. I've been able to save them now, but can only access one. All the rest are Failed media. This is with a brand new account.

Been having the best offline races this past weekend.


Edit: How could I forget the controller settings? Haven't had to adjust anything. Straight out the box, they're perfect. Thanks to the team @IanBell

 

[David Brooks]

The save setup over existing works and save to new slot also works if you really do choose a vacant slot, but doesn't work if you try to write it to a different but already occupied slot.

Secondly I have been doing races against the ai at Texas oval in the IndyCar. The ai are pretty good until about lap 25 and then they lose the plot. I am guessing it's because they don't know how to pit. Instead of dropping to the apron they just slam on the brakes in the final turn and cause huge piles ups. Don't know if that was like that before the patch or not.

Ai at 105 performance and 65 aggression.

 

[Logsi]

Be very careful now when entering pit lane!! I have twice been DISQUALIFIED from the race when entering a bit to hot. One was in the final hour of an 8 hour endurance race.

This is WITHOUT rules and flags on by the way. Just warning everyone

I’ve done exactly this. Car just spins out into pit and causes severe damage and goes straight back out again...

 

[Daz555]

Well it looks like I'll have to wait for patch 4.0 before I can play again. Constant CE errors since 3.01 landed. Been in front of the TV now for an hour and not yet managed to start or join a game. I cannot use the car selection screens at all either when joining a room or even creating my own custom race or online event. I have even tried deleting the whole game and starting from scratch but it makes no difference.

Hacked off. Right off now to set my wheel back up on the PC for some Assetto Corsa.

 

[Logsi]

Well it looks like I'll have to wait for patch 4.0 before I can play again. Constant CE errors since 3.01 landed. Been in front of the TV now for an hour and not yet managed to start or join a game. I cannot use the car selection screens at all either when joining a room or even creating my own custom race or online event. I have even tried deleting the whole game and staring from scratch but it makes no difference.

Hacked off. Right off now to set my wheel back up on the PC for some Assetto Corsa.

Had my first today. Game was trying to save but just hung. Had to exit out and it then force quit the game.

Went back in and save was corrupted but luckily the game has a built in backup system. Only lost one race.

 

[AllReD]

Online connectivity doesnt seem to have improved, still getting randomly kicked/being stuck on the waiting screen forever :/

Disconnects are killing me right now. I'm on PC and totally frustrating. Not sure if it's ISP, game or PC. Never had this issue on Xbox but im lucky if i get to run a full race.

Checking event viewer on pc shows 1014 DNS error for Steam which matches my disconnect times.

Tried hard coding my DNS server ip to see if that helps.

Sigh...

 

[davidt33]

Well it looks like I'll have to wait for patch 4.0 before I can play again. Constant CE errors since 3.01 landed. Been in front of the TV now for an hour and not yet managed to start or join a game. I cannot use the car selection screens at all either when joining a room or even creating my own custom race or online event. I have even tried deleting the whole game and starting from scratch but it makes no difference.

Hacked off. Right off now to set my wheel back up on the PC for some Assetto Corsa.

That's tough man. Could imagine your frustration.

 

[micmansour]

Well it looks like I'll have to wait for patch 4.0 before I can play again. Constant CE errors since 3.01 landed. Been in front of the TV now for an hour and not yet managed to start or join a game. I cannot use the car selection screens at all either when joining a room or even creating my own custom race or online event. I have even tried deleting the whole game and starting from scratch but it makes no difference.

Hacked off. Right off now to set my wheel back up on the PC for some Assetto Corsa.

I'm in the exact same boat. Can't play at all anymore, online or offline. I hope SMS take note and fix it right away, as I've had to shelf my game once again. Back to Dirt4 (with proper force feedback and manual shifts that actually require a clutch). Last time I pay retail for a game on release! $139 AUD I payed for the deluxe edition, and nothing but frustration.

 

[Wolfe]

I can't even imagine trying for that long to join a lobby. I'd be back to singleplayer after 15 minutes at most. It's what discourages me from bothering with online multiplayer at all. Even without connection errors, it's too much time spent staring at a menu screen.

 

[Daz555]

I can't even imagine trying for that long to join a lobby. I'd be back to singleplayer after 15 minutes at most. It's what discourages me from bothering with online multiplayer at all. Even without connection errors, it's too much time spent staring at a menu screen.

CE errors on single player too......

 

[Wolfe]

CE errors on single player too......

Crazy. Failure to sync for stats and/or leaderboards and such, I suppose? Disconnecting your console/PC from the internet doesn't help?

 

[Daz555]

Over on PC forums Ian just said they are aware of CE errors and they are the number one priority.