Project CARS General Discussion Thread

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I wonder if anyone could answer this for me. On PS4 now you have the app to load music onto a thumb/separeate drive and play this from the XMB main page, Then go into game of choice. Will the PS4 still have any reserves to be able to do this with Pcars.
 
I may quote an article from game informer:

"The real reason game demos seem to point to lower game sales is really quite simple - the games that have demos are games not many people are interested in purchasing in the first place. Demos aren't the cause of lower game sales; they are more of a symptom that a game won't break any sale records. A developer releasing a demo says they are trying to get as much attention to their product as possible, that they aren't 100 percent confident in its ability to be successful on trailers alone. It's not the demo that is causing the lower sales, or the trailers causing high sales. It's just the game. It's really as simple as that."
 
I wonder if anyone could answer this for me. On PS4 now you have the app to load music onto a thumb/separeate drive and play this from the XMB main page, Then go into game of choice. Will the PS4 still have any reserves to be able to do this with Pcars.

Can't think why it would be a problem. Might miss a few gear changes if you're like me an have to keep fiddling to turn up the quiet songs an turn down the loud ones :lol:
 
I may quote an article from game informer:

"The real reason game demos seem to point to lower game sales is really quite simple - the games that have demos are games not many people are interested in purchasing in the first place. Demos aren't the cause of lower game sales; they are more of a symptom that a game won't break any sale records. A developer releasing a demo says they are trying to get as much attention to their product as possible, that they aren't 100 percent confident in its ability to be successful on trailers alone. It's not the demo that is causing the lower sales, or the trailers causing high sales. It's just the game. It's really as simple as that."
Really? Cause COD MW, MW2, WAW, and MW3, Mafia II, RFG, NFSMW '05, NFS CARBON, etc. etc. all had demos and we're all brilliant games that sold well
 
Could someone point me in the direction of the screenshot of the old Pole Position/PCars screenshot someone posted the other day? Been huting for it for 15 mins now and cannot find it.
 
I remember the COD MW2 Demo... was released 9 months after retail :lol:

A demo would make it worse anyway. We'd time trial it into the ground. pick it to pieces and boil the bones to make time trial (now reverse!) soup. Sounds like fun now... but. uhhh. hmmm.
 
Don't forget Journey on PS3, from the makers of FLOW and Flower, an indie game with relatively low budget that almost caused the developer to went bankrupt due to overbudget and too long developing time that stretched from 1 year initially to more than 3 years. It has demo as well and it was a commercial success and received high acclaim. The game was released initially on PSN ( Digital ) along with the demo.

The dev team consist of only 18 people and a low budget that probably would not exceed 2 million dollars.

Journey was the last game made under a three-game contract between Thatgamecompany and Sony, the first two being Flow and Flower. Development of the game began in 2009, after the release of Thatgamecompany's previous title Flower. The 18-person development team for Journey was composed mainly of creators of the company's previous games; co-founder Jenova Chen was the creative director and Nick Clark returned as lead designer.[8] Kellee Santiago, producer of Flow and Flower, did not reprise her duties, concentrating instead on her role as the company's president, and was replaced by Robin Hunicke.[9]

When development began, Sony expected the game to be completed in a year, rather than the more than three it finally took.[10] Thatgamecompany always expected needing an extension; according to Hunicke, they believed finishing the game within a year was "unrealistic".[11] Development ended up taking even longer than anticipated, as the team had difficulties paring down their ideas for the game and maintaining efficient communication.[11] Over the course of development the team grew from seven to eighteen people.[8][10] At the end of the second year, when Sony's extension had run out, the game did not spark the emotions in the player that the team wanted. Sony agreed to another one-year extension, but development ultimately exceeded even that.[12]

The stress of the project led to the feeling there was not enough time or money to complete everything the team wished to, which added to the stress and caused arguments about the design of the game. The developers ended up reducing the overtime they spent on the project to avoid burning out, though it meant further delays and risked the company running out of money as the game neared completion. In a speech at the 16th annual D.I.C.E. Awards in 2013, Chen admitted that the company had indeed been driven to bankruptcy in the final months of development, and that some of the developers had gone unpaid at the time.[12] Hunicke described the solution to finally finishing the game as learning to let go of tensions and ideas that could not make it into the game and be "nice to each other."[10]
 
Can't think why it would be a problem. Might miss a few gear changes if you're like me an have to keep fiddling to turn up the quiet songs an turn down the loud ones :lol:

Cheers, Where do you change volume ?? I haven't found a way yet except on the master volume on AV amp
 
I'm thinking of hosting a racing series on PS4 once it releases.

PCars Fast Arcade Racing Series (FARS)

Quick racing with one class per race on varied tracks.

Car & Track Regs in spoiler.

No limits to tuning, aids are set to be as realistic as possible.

ELIGIBLE CARS:

Hot Hatch Class
2009 Ford Focus RS
2013 Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG
2014 Renault Megane RS

Classic Class
1972 Ford Escort RS1600
1971 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.8 AMG "Rote Sau"

90's DTM Class
1991 BMW M3 E30 Group A
1988 Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth Group A
1991 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II DTM

Modern DTM
Mercedes-AMG C-Class Coupe DTM

Clio Cup Class
2013 Renualt Clio IV RS Cup

Sports class
2012 BMW 1M Coupe
2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X FQ-400

Track Day Class

2011 Ariel Atom 500 V8
2011 Ariel Atom Mugen
2012 BAC Mono
2011 Caterham Superlight R500
2012 Caterham SP300/R
2011 Radical SR-8 RX

Super Class
2013 Audi R8 V10 Plus
2013 McLaren MP4-12C
2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
2013 RUF RGT-8

Hyper Class
2011 Gumpert Apollo S
1994 McLaren F1
2014 McLaren P1
2012 Pagani Huayra
2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
2013 RUF CTR-3 Clubsport

SCCA Trans-Am Class
1997 Ford Mustang Cobra SCCA Trans-Am

Zonda One-Make Class
2012 Pagani Zonda R

GT4 Class
2012 Aston Martin Vantage GT4
2012 BMW M3 E92 GT4
2013 Ford Mustang Boss 302R1
2013 Ginetta G55 GT4

GT3 Class
2013 Aston Martin Vantage V12 GT3
2013 Audi R8 LMS Ultra GT3
2012 BMW Z4 GT3
2013 McLaren 12C GT3
2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3
2014 RUF RGT-8 GT3

GT2 Class
2012 BMW M3 E92 GT2
2013 RUF CTR-3 SMS-R

Group 5 Class
1978 BMW 320 Turbo Group 5
1981 Ford Capri Zakspeed Group 5

Group C Class
1989 Sauber C9 Mercedes Group C

Stock Car Class (Raced Seperately)
1990 Caper Monterey Stock Car

LMP2 Class
2013 Alpine A450 LMP2
2013 Marek RP 219D
2013 Oreca 03 LMP2
2014 RWD Motorsports P20 LMP2

LMP1 Class
2011 Audi R18 TDI LMP1
2013 Marek RP 339H
2013 RWD Motorsports P30 LMP1

Formula Class (All raced seperately)
2011 Formula A
2011 Formula B
2013 Formula C
2013 Formula Gulf FG1000
2011 Formula Rookie
1969 Lotus Formula 49 Cosworth V8
1972 Lotus 72D Cosworth
1977 Lotus 78 Cosworth
1985 Lotus 98T Renault Turbo

Karting Class
2011 SMS Shifter Kart 125cc

*New cars will be added when DLC is released & if any changes are made to car list by release

TRACKS & LAPS:
Azure Coast: 1
Bathurst: 5
Catalunya GP: 5
Brands Hatch GP: 7
Cadwell Park: 7
Cali Highway: 1
Chesterfield Karts: 10
Donington Park GP: 7
Dubai GP: 5
Dubai Karts: 10
Glencairn Karts: 10
Hockenheimring GP: 5
Imola: 5
Laguna Seca: 5
LeMans 24H: 3
LeMans Bugatti: 7
Monaco: 5
Monza GP: 5
Moravia (Brno): 5
Nurburgring Nordschleife: 2
Nurburgring GP: 5
Ochersleiben: 10
Oulton Park: 10
Road America: 5
Silverstone International: 5
Snetterton: 7
Sonoma: 5
Spa: 5
Spa Karts: 10
Summerton Karts: 10
Suzuka: 5
Watkins Glen: 7
Willow Springs Big Willow: 7
Zhuhai: 5
Zolder: 5

*Laps may change based upon release and new tracks may be added if any more are confirmed.
 
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Your sports class is a bit mixed up, Clio Cup car is its own thing runs on slick tyres and the Ginetta Junior only has 100 BHP (built for 14 yr old kids)
 
Your sports class is a bit mixed up, Clio Cup car is its own thing runs on slick tyres and the Ginetta Junior only has 100 BHP (built for 14 yr old kids)
Junior only has 100HP? Thought it woulda had about 200 or so. I'll put the Clio in it's own class and remove the G40.

Fixed it
 
I'm thinking of hosting a racing series on PS4 once it releases.

PCars Fast Arcade Racing Series (FARS)

Quick racing with one class per race on varied tracks.

Car & Track Regs in spoiler.

No limits to tuning, aids are set to be as realistic as possible.

ELIGIBLE CARS:

Hot Hatch Class
2009 Ford Focus RS
2013 Mercedes-Benz A45 AMG
2014 Renault Megane RS

Classic Class
1972 Ford Escort RS1600
1971 Mercedes-Benz 300SEL 6.8 AMG "Rote Sau"

90's DTM Class
1991 BMW M3 E30 Group A
1988 Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth Group A
1991 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II DTM

Modern DTM
Mercedes-AMG C-Class Coupe DTM

Clio Cup Class
2013 Renualt Clio IV RS Cup

Sports class
2012 BMW 1M Coupe
2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X FQ-400

Track Day Class

2011 Ariel Atom 500 V8
2011 Ariel Atom Mugen
2012 BAC Mono
2011 Caterham Superlight R500
2012 Caterham SP300/R
2011 Radical SR-8 RX

Super Class
2013 Audi R8 V10 Plus
2013 McLaren MP4-12C
2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
2013 RUF RGT-8

Hyper Class
2011 Gumpert Apollo S
1994 McLaren F1
2014 McLaren P1
2012 Pagani Huayra
2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
2013 RUF CTR-3 Clubsport

SCCA Trans-Am Class
1997 Ford Mustang Cobra SCCA Trans-Am

Zonda One-Make Class
2012 Pagani Zonda R

GT4 Class
2012 Aston Martin Vantage GT4
2012 BMW M3 E92 GT4
2013 Ford Mustang Boss 302R1
2013 Ginetta G55 GT4

GT3 Class
2013 Aston Martin Vantage V12 GT3
2013 Audi R8 LMS Ultra GT3
2012 BMW Z4 GT3
2013 McLaren 12C GT3
2012 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3
2014 RUF RGT-8 GT3

GT2 Class
2012 BMW M3 E92 GT2
2013 RUF CTR-3 SMS-R

Group 5 Class
1978 BMW 320 Turbo Group 5
1981 Ford Capri Zakspeed Group 5

Group C Class
1989 Sauber C9 Mercedes Group C

Stock Car Class (Raced Seperately)
1990 Caper Monterey Stock Car

LMP2 Class
2013 Alpine A450 LMP2
2013 Marek RP 219D
2013 Oreca 03 LMP2
2014 RWD Motorsports P20 LMP2

LMP1 Class
2011 Audi R18 TDI LMP1
2013 Marek RP 339H
2013 RWD Motorsports P30 LMP1

Formula Class (All raced seperately)
2011 Formula A
2011 Formula B
2013 Formula C
2013 Formula Gulf FG1000
2011 Formula Rookie
1969 Lotus Formula 49 Cosworth V8
1972 Lotus 72D Cosworth
1977 Lotus 78 Cosworth
1985 Lotus 98T Renault Turbo

Karting Class
2011 SMS Shifter Kart 125cc

*New cars will be added when DLC is released & if any changes are made to car list by release

TRACKS & LAPS:
Azure Coast: 1
Bathurst: 5
Catalunya GP: 5
Brands Hatch GP: 7
Cadwell Park: 7
Cali Highway: 1
Chesterfield Karts: 10
Donington Park GP: 7
Dubai GP: 5
Dubai Karts: 10
Glencairn Karts: 10
Hockenheimring GP: 5
Imola: 5
Laguna Seca: 5
LeMans 24H: 3
LeMans Bugatti: 7
Monaco: 5
Monza GP: 5
Moravia (Brno): 5
Nurburgring Nordschleife: 2
Nurburgring GP: 5
Ochersleiben: 10
Oulton Park: 10
Road America: 5
Silverstone International: 5
Snetterton: 7
Sonoma: 5
Spa: 5
Spa Karts: 10
Summerton Karts: 10
Suzuka: 5
Watkins Glen: 7
Willow Springs Big Willow: 7
Zhuhai: 5
Zolder: 5

*Laps may change based upon release and new tracks may be added if any more are confirmed.
Short races with lots of different classes sounds awesome. Maybe you should start a new thread as this post will be lost in 2-3 days ;)
 
Short races with lots of different classes sounds awesome. Maybe you should start a new thread as this post will be lost in 2-3 days ;)
I'll make a thread when PCars releases. It should be some close racing as all cars are close in performance in their relative class and maybe we can get some multi-class racing if PCars supports it.
 
Multi-class racing is supported of course ;)

I think it would be fun to announce the car/track combination of such short races 10-15 minutes before the race starts. Everbody has a few laps to get used to the combo and noone has a big advantage because of practice.
 
Multi-class racing is supported of course ;)

I think it would be fun to announce the car/track combination of such short races 10-15 minutes before the race starts. Everbody has a few laps to get used to the combo and noone has a big advantage because of practice.
Car/Track Combo would be announced 30 minutes before race start and there would be a 15 minute practice session. There wouldn't be any qualifying and the grid would be randomized. (Is there a grid randomise feature on online lobbies?)
 
Cheers, Where do you change volume ?? I haven't found a way yet except on the master volume on AV amp

I find a level in game that is just about on par with the music, then its just a click up or down on the volume sliders on my headset.

For example, when i play BF4 i set the in game master to around 35%, music sits on top quite nicely. Bit of a pain when i want to switch to a chat though lol, PS4 party chat audio takes priority, so the game becomes silent at that volume. Works okay though. Spotify is coming soon - hopefully their app will have built in volume controls.
 
The G40 has around 165 BHP, but this is the Junior version which is limited 100 BHP so when the 14 Yr kid crashes into a wall he won't hurt himself that much
However their extremely good probably better for wheel to wheel racing Than the formula rookie is.
 
The G40 has around 165 BHP, but this is the Junior version which is limited 100 BHP so when the 14 Yr kid crashes into a wall he won't hurt himself that much

oops

I watched the Juniors alongside the 2014 BTCC at Brands (On ITV) and they looked cool. I may add them as a class and run them exclusively at British tracks.
 
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