Searching For Evidence of Hidden Things

[Parnelli Bone]

I've never driven a Tom's Angel....it's just one of the many cars i never got around to driving (even after over 2 solid years of GT2) but i would guess it's similar to an Elise? Since it's so light & mid-engine. I dont know, tho

 

[Skid Mark 33]

I've never driven a Tom's Angel....it's just one of the many cars i never got around to driving (even after over 2 solid years of GT2) but i would guess it's similar to an Elise? Since it's so light & mid-engine. I dont know, tho

I will buy the car later then test it. Then I will post a review of it!

 

[superberkut]

I think 'unlocking' is the better term; it is in one of the Pure Sports Car Cup races (the hp limit is 591).

 

[Skid Mark 33]

I think 'unlocking' is the better term; it is in one of the Pure Sports Car Cup races (the hp limit is 591).

Oh crap!

 

[Orion]

Tom's Angel T01

It drives like a Tommy Kaira ZZ-S, with less power and a little bit more grip, or maybe a ZZ-III. It is only 1500 pounds or so, meaning you get a 155HP car that can easily scare 200HP+ cars, might scare all the BMW's stock too, since they range from 2-3 times the weight compared to the T01. Also the T01 has better cornering, without oversteer, but it barely understeers.

 

[Skid Mark 33]

It drives like a Tommy Kaira ZZ-S, with less power and a little bit more grip, or maybe a ZZ-III. It is only 1500 pounds or so, meaning you get a 155HP car that can easily scare 200HP+ cars, might scare all the BMW's stock too, since they range from 2-3 times the weight compared to the T01. Also the T01 has better cornering, without oversteer, but it barely understeers.

Thanks! 👍

 

[naruto_12]

read this cheat that this guy got the mclaren and it cost him 21 million credits. it says to get it you must buy every special car from every car manufacture that has a special car. and got to the east city section and you will find the mclaren but they only have 1 car and that's the mclaren.

 

[A.A.Z.]

There is no McLaren in the game. That guy lies. It's been proven million times that there is no McLaren entry in any GT2 version.

 

[SwitchFX]

Yet i've seen people take it seriously, as if it really existed. There was also a rumor at granturismoforum.com that some fool picked up from someone else. It went like this: buy all black cars (100 of them) and fill your garage. No duplicates allowed. I forget the exact criteria but basically the gist once you get your garage filled, the game would reward you and put the McLaren in your garage. The guy swore it was true and a few early gT2 explorers tried to believe him...one even tryied it out for himself even tho the first guy couldn't produce a screen shot of his McLaren.

Eventually, the liar fessed up...admited the rumor was false. Needless to say he was flamed incessantly. I'll try and dig up the exact post and location if i can.

Sorry to quote such an old post, but his lies actually made it onto numerous web pages. I actually tried it once, but after 10 cars, I figured you can't have every black car in the game. Why you ask? Well think of it this way, there's so many black used cars and new cars that it's be a daunting and impossible task to do.


Edit: I owned the Toms Angels. It was a pretty cool prize. Very light, nimble, excellent handling. IIRC you could put some performance parts on it, or fully mod it out minus the R modification. It would eat up small tight tracks that had chicanes.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Sorry to quote such an old post,

That's okay, i'm still here.

but his lies actually made it onto numerous web pages. I actually tried it once, but after 10 cars, I figured you can't have every black car in the game. Why you ask? Well think of it this way, there's so many black used cars and new cars that it's be a daunting and impossible task to do.

Interesting. Yea that guy was a jerk.

 

[Skid Mark 33]

Sorry to quote such an old post, but his lies actually made it onto numerous web pages. I actually tried it once, but after 10 cars, I figured you can't have every black car in the game. Why you ask? Well think of it this way, there's so many black used cars and new cars that it's be a daunting and impossible task to do.

Plus you will not have enough garage space!

 

[superberkut]

Again! But, in all seriousness, you were proving a point.

An early form of driving penalties may be present as well, or at the least in development, as inferred from the 'Out of Course' incidents occurring in the past, in addition to adding time to a total run. This is very strange, though, as only 2 cases were reported (I had one of them), and nothing of the sort was mentioned in any PR material.

Update: Not to mention that to us GTP-goers (who says that anymore?) find them endearing to the game.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

It's really too bad GranturismoNetwork.com is now gone. Back when GT2 came out, it was called "GranTurismo.com"--hence, it was a very popular site. Now that it's gone, there's all this history that's missing...i'm not sure if that website archived itself somewhere. The guy who owned GranTurismo.com finally sold the name and made some bank...and the site was re-named GranTurismoNetwork.com.

Anyways, i remember reading alot of the early posts just after GT2 was released in December of '99. There were lots of people pissed off about all the glitches in the game: especially once their cars went missing and occasionally menus would black out or freeze. The folks posting at GranTurismo.com in that first month put together some petitions, wrote and called Sony and demanded their games either be replaced or refunded. I mean, we're talking about several hundred hardcore gamers trying their best to make Sony fess up and get things right...

.....all of this happened in the first month. Sony/PD quickly got GT2 version 1.1 on the shelves, which was still glitchy but alot of the really bad stuff wasn't as regular. But getting Sony to actually say why the game was screwy? They wouldn't do it.

I remember several folks complaining how they'd call Sony's customer service line, and getting the runaround. The gist of what Sony would say went somethign like this:

"whenever you program a new videogame, there will always be some minor glitches. All games have them. Thank you for calling Sony and have a nice day!"

But i guess after many more people complaining, PD and Sony finally started listening. GT is Sony's cash cow, after all......and from this lesson, this is why Sony is waiting so long for PD to get GT5 out. they learned their lesson. It doesn't pay to rush.

 

[Craig HP]

It's really too bad GranturismoNetwork.com is now gone. Back when GT2 came out, it was called "GranTurismo.com"--hence, it was a very popular site. Now that it's gone, there's all this history that's missing...i'm not sure if that website archived itself somewhere. The guy who owned GranTurismo.com finally sold the name and made some bank...and the site was re-named GranTurismoNetwork.com.

Anyways, i remember reading alot of the early posts just after GT2 was released in December of '99. There were lots of people pissed off about all the glitches in the game: especially once their cars went missing and occasionally menus would black out or freeze. The folks posting at GranTurismo.com in that first month put together some petitions, wrote and called Sony and demanded their games either be replaced or refunded. I mean, we're talking about several hundred hardcore gamers trying their best to make Sony fess up and get things right...

.....all of this happened in the first month. Sony/PD quickly got GT2 version 1.1 on the shelves, which was still glitchy but alot of the really bad stuff wasn't as regular. But getting Sony to actually say why the game was screwy? They wouldn't do it.

I remember several folks complaining how they'd call Sony's customer service line, and getting the runaround. The gist of what Sony would say went somethign like this:

"whenever you program a new videogame, there will always be some minor glitches. All games have them. Thank you for calling Sony and have a nice day!"

But i guess after many more people complaining, PD and Sony finally started listening. GT is Sony's cash cow, after all......and from this lesson, this is why Sony is waiting so long for PD to get GT5 out. they learned their lesson. It doesn't pay to rush.

I think it was down to the fact that people were demanding and demanding the game, that Sony wanted to get it out as soon as possible to please buyers. And if they didn't get it out in time for Christmas they could have lost some serious cash. Buy yes, Sony must have learnt from this. Without GT they would be missing out on possibly millions every year. I mean, just look at the best selling game for Playstation 1, wanna take a guess... it was Gran Turismo, and the best selling game for Playstation 2, Gran Turismo 3 A-spec. The GT series has easily blown up everything in it's path. GT is Sony's Nuclear Bomb, and they can't afford to loose it!

 

[Craig HP]

You know there was that Peugeot the did not finish the course on Tahiti maze, well does anyone have version 1.0, because if so could they post a video of that. It sounds just hirliarious.

P.S: Also, can anyone tell me what happened to Gran Turismo Fourm.com. I visited it a few weeks ago, but now it's just some random website. No forum area at all.

 

[dylansan]

hirliauous.

Like your spelling.
GTF seems to have become some random blog type site. I didn't really check it but it's still sort of about cars.

 

[Craig HP]

Like your spelling.
GTF seems to have become some random blog type site. I didn't really check it but it's still sort of about cars.

Sort of about cars... sounds a bit... um, let me think...
I've changed the spelling by the way. Thanks for telling me!

PS: I'mm noat a bad sepellr, hounizt!

 

[superberkut]

*sighs*...

It's not much, really. The car drag races you down a short part of the start/finish straight, then veers left and sticks to the inside wall. That's it. It's actually rather pathetic.

 

[dylansan]

H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S
Hilarious.
Sorry, but if you don't know the spelling of a word like that, either look it up, use spell check, or don't use it.

 

[superberkut]

Better than Shaq:

"Sam is an idiot. I-D-O-U-T. Idiot."

All the same, though...

 

[Sniffs]

I only got to about page 12 before I decided to post. looks like people missed (or I missed) the Vauxhalls left in the US NTSC version of 1.0 I prefer the Vaux versions over the Opel ones, better color pallets, no "off center wheel error" on the one car, and a better exhaust sound.

oh, the Vauxes and the Opels have different Race Paint schemes, and I somehow managed to change the coding around so that you could tune the Vaux versions instead of them being stuck in stock mode.

if anybody's interested, I have a modification of "pothole's headlight code" that uses a different button press, and uses rome-night for the track. I also have a "dirty cars" code that takes that annoying shine off the cars from the in-game light emulations.

I am so a GT2 haXor (i have a Gameshark PRO for my PSX)

 

[sucahyo]

I am interested . I like collecting code .

 

[superberkut]

I apologize for any ignorance I may show, but what is the 'pothole's headlight code'?

 

[Sniffs]

I apologize for any ignorance I may show, but what is the 'pothole's headlight code'?

when GT2 was all there was, it was very thoroughly hacked about by cheat coders. this user named "pothole" created a code to turn on the headlights during a day race or when you had yet to earn access to a "night" track. I made a modification that uses a different set of buttons to trigger it, and a different "swap" track. the code simply forces the race to use the "lights on" skin that normally appears only with designated courses.

the "dirty cars" code is my own. I was screwing around with a rally car and the car wash, and happened to find the hex code location for the amount of "crud" on the car.

 

[pez2k]

oh, the Vauxes and the Opels have different Race Paint schemes, and I somehow managed to change the coding around so that you could tune the Vaux versions instead of them being stuck in stock mode.

I presume you found the tuner code, at 1CD039 in the NTSC v1.0. The same applies with the Acuras in the PAL release, there's no Acura dealership to tune them at, but you can simply set their tuner to Honda.

 

[Sniffs]

I presume you found the tuner code, at 1CD039 in the NTSC v1.0. The same applies with the Acuras in the PAL release, there's no Acura dealership to tune them at, but you can simply set their tuner to Honda.

check on that. I need that back again. and I wasn't kidding, I think the Vaux versions are nicer. how come YOU guys always get the cool paint?
if you have a shark pro, have a peek around for Honda sereal numbers. you might find the used car lists. they deleted several used goodies from the Honda used. in the US version some of the Honda marketed NSX's are left behind, their sereal numbers aren't showing in the US version.

 

[superberkut]

when GT2 was all there was, it was very thoroughly hacked about by cheat coders. this user named "pothole" created a code to turn on the headlights during a day race or when you had yet to earn access to a "night" track. I made a modification that uses a different set of buttons to trigger it, and a different "swap" track. the code simply forces the race to use the "lights on" skin that normally appears only with designated courses.

the "dirty cars" code is my own. I was screwing around with a rally car and the car wash, and happened to find the hex code location for the amount of "crud" on the car.

Thank you, Sniffs.

Off-topic, but how many possibilities were there initially for this code?

 

[Sniffs]

I simply used a standing code and information concernin "joker" codes (the memory site in the game that recognises button presses), and a list of the memory numbers of the tracks.

 

[Craig HP]

when GT2 was all there was, it was very thoroughly hacked about by cheat coders. this user named "pothole" created a code to turn on the headlights during a day race or when you had yet to earn access to a "night" track. I made a modification that uses a different set of buttons to trigger it, and a different "swap" track. the code simply forces the race to use the "lights on" skin that normally appears only with designated courses.

the "dirty cars" code is my own. I was screwing around with a rally car and the car wash, and happened to find the hex code location for the amount of "crud" on the car.

So in Gran Turismo 2, if you never wash your car, you will loose that shine?

 

[Sniffs]

So in Gran Turismo 2, if you never wash your car, you will loose that shine?

yup. as the car get's used, a memory site adds a counter every so often. the only other difference you'll see is darker paint.