Spa "24h" One Hour Endurance Race, Share Your Strats

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The AI is so horrendous that a default Gr3 is fine. When it rains they always stay on the slicks too long, or pit way too early which just makes them do even more pit stops. They’re always tapping their brakes when it’s critical to stay full throttle, some even run out of fuel or crash.
Honestly I haven't seen that at all. In fact the AI seems to have a supernatural ability to drive in the rain, regardless of their tires.

I'll try again with the advice about zooming the radar way way out.


:cheers:
 
I went in with my detuned Nismo GT500 (Motul 2016) - which Ive basically used for all 800PP WTC events and won it with 1:23 lead over P2.

Not trying to hype up or boast but it was extremely easy, there was no need for a strat.

I started on RMs. The switched to HWs, back on to RMs for 2 laps before more patchy rain so switched to IMs (I could afford to pit as I had such a big lead) - I saw out the race on very worn IMs but could have easily switched to RMs if I fancied/was under pressure.

I know, I know perhaps the detuned car was OP, so I will retry it with a more appropriate car. I'm not really a credit grinder, I prefer a competitive race. Only reason I used detuned NISMO GTR is because there aren't any AI events designed for Gr.2 and above and the MOTUL is my favourite car to date (having discovered it in the mixed class Overtaking mission at Fuji).

Will try it with the GT300 BRZ next.
 
My first try was a disaster, worst race since very long time ago. I couldn't get the right feeling of the car I selected, non of my lap was good, finished P13.

Today I gave myself second chance, this time in stock NSX GT500'08.

RH on start and FM2. By the end of day and first rain, I was able to take the lead of the race. Just after dusk, intense downpour started so I pitted for full wets and refuelling. Second stint was mostly racing in the rain, with comfort ~30sec lead. At morning rain stopped, track started to became more dry with each lap. I decided that it is time for slicks, so I pushed to finish tires and go for fresh ones.

Just before entering the pit, at bus-stop chicane I spoted bit of clouds on radar... I've made a quick decision - lets go for one more lap I observe the radar. Man, that was driving on the ice, cause "my tires are dead". On that lap I did my only one error in whole race - spun on Eau Rouge and lost 10-12sec. Finally I managed to reach the box and provide myself fresh set of wet tires.

The rain came ones again, so I was driving carefully controlling my 10sec lead. At 8mins before time end, rain was gone. At 4mins before end, track was dry and ready for slicks. Just like Lando in Sochi, I was on wrong tire but also on a lead so I commited to not pit. Car on second place (Portilla in Viper GT3) was reducing the gap quite fast. I still got some life with my full wets, but my pace was dropping with each sector. I managed to win just 2sec ahead of Portilla and I claimed my maiden victory in that race event.

In a conclusion, I would say that key for winning is taking pit-stops in right time with right choice of tires plus not making errors. It is endurance race, you don't have to push 100% with quali pace. Go for your 95%, avoid costly mistakes and control gap to competitors.
 
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I used the McLaren f1 GTR Race car 97. Fuel map 6 all race. Pitted once for fuel. Same RH for the whole race.
There was a bit of rain but the racing line was dry within a lap :).
Lapped everyone.
 
Nice. MIM or American standard? Not much of a Fender guy as I am more of a metal player, so ESP and Jackson are more my jam. But I do have an American made Strat and she's nice for a change.
that's a early '90s American Std. I stick with the fenders because I'm used to the necks.
 
As for weather, the first and the kei-car ones had rain. The last one is always sunny, but it's que tough
The MX-5 one and Gr. 3 at Red bull ring are the only enduring missions with rain

The Bac mono, retro, lake maggiore, Kyoto driving Park, kei and deep forest are all in dry
 
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I'm having a weird issue with this event. Running the 911 Gr.3, I half-spin almost every time through the bus stop. I spun the last time I tried literally doing 7mph. It seems like it is directly tied to the angle of the wheel. If I turn my wheel to a certain point, the back end starts coming around. It's the weirdest thing because it only seems to effect this event. Any thoughts?
 
I'm having a weird issue with this event. Running the 911 Gr.3, I half-spin almost every time through the bus stop. I spun the last time I tried literally doing 7mph. It seems like it is directly tied to the angle of the wheel. If I turn my wheel to a certain point, the back end starts coming around. It's the weirdest thing because it only seems to effect this event. Any thoughts?
Are you applying throttle too aggressively?
The corner is cambered a little.
Plus the car is an MR.
 
I'm having a weird issue with this event. Running the 911 Gr.3, I half-spin almost every time through the bus stop. I spun the last time I tried literally doing 7mph. It seems like it is directly tied to the angle of the wheel. If I turn my wheel to a certain point, the back end starts coming around. It's the weirdest thing because it only seems to effect this event. Any thoughts?
The stock setup on that car has a tendency for one wheel (back left in this case) to lift off the ground and that sector in particular is very prone to it. You just have to be cautious on applying throttle until you're clear of the elevation changes and have the car straightened out.
 
I'm having a weird issue with this event. Running the 911 Gr.3, I half-spin almost every time through the bus stop. I spun the last time I tried literally doing 7mph. It seems like it is directly tied to the angle of the wheel. If I turn my wheel to a certain point, the back end starts coming around. It's the weirdest thing because it only seems to effect this event. Any thoughts?
Have the same problem since patch 1.13 with the Ferrari gr.3 with Controller 🤔
 
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I'm having a weird issue with this event. Running the 911 Gr.3, I half-spin almost every time through the bus stop. I spun the last time I tried literally doing 7mph. It seems like it is directly tied to the angle of the wheel. If I turn my wheel to a certain point, the back end starts coming around. It's the weirdest thing because it only seems to effect this event. Any thoughts?
Same problem at bus stop with NSX GT500 stock settings. I changed line to avoid the bumps (top inside especially) and also tried to coast thru that section with momentum from entry until straight on exit… maybe a dab of throttle if too slow. Was losing gobs of time but it worked and ai slow enough that staying straight was main objective.

I am still adjusting from GT6 after long layoff so I think I need a new approach to this section and a lot of Spa actually. I used to be very competitive on this circuit but need to change significantly and unlearn old habits.
 
Are you applying throttle too aggressively?
The corner is cambered a little.
Plus the car is an MR.
I've tried all kinds of things:
  • coasting until completely straight
  • braking early and coming through with constant pressure on the accelerator
  • left foot brake while holding slightly on the gas
  • squaring off the corners
  • inside line
  • outside line

The only thing that works is letting it slide and trying to catch it fast enough... or a different car.

You lose like 10 seconds a lap. It's frustrating as hell.
 
I've tried all kinds of things:
  • coasting until completely straight
  • braking early and coming through with constant pressure on the accelerator
  • left foot brake while holding slightly on the gas
  • squaring off the corners
  • inside line
  • outside line

The only thing that works is letting it slide and trying to catch it fast enough... or a different car.

You lose like 10 seconds a lap. It's frustrating as hell.
Soften the rear ARB, this will make the car understeer
Add Ballast to the front
Soften the rear natural frequency of the car to reduce the weight transfer.
Tweak the LSD settings, say 5/5/60.
 
I'm having a weird issue with this event. Running the 911 Gr.3, I half-spin almost every time through the bus stop. I spun the last time I tried literally doing 7mph. It seems like it is directly tied to the angle of the wheel. If I turn my wheel to a certain point, the back end starts coming around. It's the weirdest thing because it only seems to effect this event. Any thoughts?
I've had that in a few cars. It's counterintuitive but a bit of throttle to prevent the rear unloading should help. It's not an easy technique to get right.
 
BRZ_GT300
This livery makes me somewhat uncomfortable on anything other than a Nissan! 😂
 
Time trial doesn't do tire wear and fuel loads IIRC.
I know in know, but thats a weirdo bug i guess. I run the 800 worldtour 5 laps and have no prob. Dont know whats wrong with it 🤔 maybe the wind to strong on that spot 🤣

I delete it what i sayed.
My thought on it now. It isnt the track. FR cars got more grip on the rear MR cars got more grip on the front. Thats why it feels so weird. A bit steering throws the back of the car to fast. They forgot to higer the grip on the rear.
 
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My first try was a disaster, worst race since very long time ago. I couldn't get the right feeling of the car I selected, non of my lap was good, finished P13.

Today I gave myself second chance, this time in stock NSX GT500'08.

RH on start and FM2. By the end of day and first rain, I was able to take the lead of the race. Just after dusk, intense downpour started so I pitted for full wets and refuelling. Second stint was mostly racing in the rain, with comfort ~30sec lead. At morning rain stopped, track started to became more dry with each lap. I decided that it is time for slicks, so I pushed to finish tires and go for fresh ones.

Just before entering the pit, at bus-stop chicane I spoted bit of clouds on radar... I've made a quick decision - lets go for one more lap I observe the radar. Man, that was driving on the ice, cause "my tires are dead". On that lap I did my only one error in whole race - spun on Eau Rouge and lost 10-12sec. Finally I managed to reach the box and provide myself fresh set of wet tires.

The rain came ones again, so I was driving carefully controlling my 10sec lead. At 8mins before time end, rain was gone. At 4mins before end, track was dry and ready for slicks. Just like Lando in Sochi, I was on wrong tire but also on a lead so I commited to not pit. Car on second place (Portilla in Viper GT3) was reducing the gap quite fast. I still got some life with my full wets, but my pace was dropping with each sector. I managed to win just 2sec ahead of Portilla and I claimed my maiden victory in that race event.

In a conclusion, I would say that key for winning is taking pit-stops in right time with right choice of tires plus not making errors. It is endurance race, you don't have to push 100% with quali pace. Go for your 95%, avoid costly mistakes and control gap to competitors.
I’ve found that in the NSX GT500 FM1 and slightly shortshifting is absolutely the best way of driving it. Spanking it to redline is a false economy, there’s not much more power up there.

And you can break the back of the race by going max attack on your first stint before the first rain. I race on normal difficulty and laps of 2:18-2:20 are more than enough to build a big lead. Then when the rain comes you can afford to drive steadily and not panic about losing your lead with pitstops. If you’re lucky, you only have that one storm to deal with, and as soon as you’re back on RH you can go max attack again. Just got to be careful coming off the dry line to lap stragglers!

As for AI having supernatural ability in the wet (sorry, can’t remember who posted that), I’m not so sure. One particular lap in heavy rain I spent dodging at least 5 cars that had spun, crawling back onto the track or sat pointing towards me on the exit of a turn 😂 Naturally, I’d made the correct decision shortly before that and pitted for wets!
 
Finally did it! Haha, went from a best finish of 8th place, to 1st place and lapped the entire field:lol:. Same car (Aston Martin V12 GT1 whatever etc). Practice makes perfect, as well as zoomed out use of the radar (thanks to those that mentioned it). Ran the whole race super clean (not a single spin) other than getting rear ended and spun off course by an AI that wasn't even on the same lap as me :rolleyes:
 
Did it last night again, came in 1st but lost the CRB due to me "Passing under Yellow"
I saw the rain(and it as purple)coming, pitted for wets, when I came out of pit it just started to rain.
I start passing everyone left and right.
On the back straight, all the AI are going super slow, one spins out. yellow flag I fly past the AI.
Oh well.
Even with that 9s penalty, the time they spent in pits was so long compared to me being on track.

As a means for grinding, it is not as efficient as the WTC700 LeMans which can net you 1.6million creds per hour and is more predicable.
But as a race that is fun, it beats the WTC700 hands down.
 
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Been grinding this race for days. Today I got one race which I managed the whole race on hard tyres. Was two slight showers but I was using the NSX concept GT500 and was easy with the downforce. Put a lucky strike paint job on it and it’s stunning. Reminds me of my biker heroes. Man I miss two stroke GP. Kevin Schwantz manhandling a 500 GP bike round about Macau was a sight. Pepsi liveried if I remember correctly. I’m going to play some Ride 4 now 😂
 
I've driven this race a few times and I really wanted to win with a non race car. Tried the GT-R safety car for a laugh. I wanted to get to the first pit stop to see where I was and I was just very fortunate that it rained just as I came in. I ended up with a pretty massive lead and didn't have any trouble. It's possible to squeeze 7 laps from the fuel with some pretty severe fuel saving. Probably the most fun I've had wrestling a car in the rain!
 

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Just finished this for the first time.
Took my trusty Supra GT500 with the mid range turbo, slapped some RHs on and put it in FM6 from the start. I think I did 11 laps before I ran out of fuel and then stopped without changing tires as I expected the rain to come down reasonably fast again. Unfortunately it didn't and I did almost a full second stint on the tires. Iirc the rain came in lap 17 and I pitted in lap 18 for Inters and a bit of fuel. It only rained for about two laps and with 10 minutes to go the track started drying up quick again and my tires were deteriorating fast on the dry track. I made it to the end on them tho and since Portilla and Gallo drove into the pits with 5 seconds left on the clock I won a lap ahead of them :D Before they pitted i was around a minute ahead.
 
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I've driven this race a few times and I really wanted to win with a non race car. Tried the GT-R safety car for a laugh. I wanted to get to the first pit stop to see where I was and I was just very fortunate that it rained just as I came in. I ended up with a pretty massive lead and didn't have any trouble. It's possible to squeeze 7 laps from the fuel with some pretty severe fuel saving. Probably the most fun I've had wrestling a car in the rain!
Depends on the car, but with the BRZ GT300
Fuel Map 6, Lift & Coast at the end of the top straight about 400m before the braking point, 100m before the braking point on the downhill hairpin, 300m before the bustop, etc and can easily get 10+ laps of fuel, even more so if you dont full throttle all the time.
 
When you want a really nice challenge, then try the chapparal 2j 70. The car is a pure joy to drive, until the sun goes down. The car has no lights, so try to do 7 or 8 laps in the dark and in most cases, with a lot of rain.
 
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