Superstars V8 Next Challenge (PS3, Xbox360, PC)

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Hi guys
Here is the ultimate challenge.
Do a championsship with no assist,legend only 3 lap.
No settings i.e default settings.
No pratice
No qual
Go straight to race 1
Only one restart during the whole championsship
See how many points you can make
It takes about 2 hours

I just did it.Came 2 overall with 202 points.
Have fun

LOL! Now that's hardcore! Fair play to you for getting 2nd place. I daren't even think how low down the field I'd be. I find that on Legend, it's not just the quick lap times that are tricky to beat, but the cars seem like they're actually harder to beat. Seems like they block a lot more than on medium/ hard.

I wish to put out a request anyway. Due to me working nights, I have only raced most of the guys on here a few times, and only at weekends.The one Friday night I was drunk too, so had to quit after race 2 so not to ruin anyone's game.
I'm looking for any of you lot to race in the afternoons, between 12 and 4pm-ish (GMT). I've gone up against AdeUK a few times, and I think Doblo too, but I was wondering if any of the rest of you play much in the afternoons? Most of the rest of the people I race against are still fairly clean racers, but seeing as the game doesn't have the biggest of online communities, I just thought I'd put it out there.
Either drop me a message on here or add me on PSN (GTP_The_Stalker) and we'll get some racing on.

Cheers guys.👍
 
A question: anybody has compared g25-g27... and ps3 controller? I mean, how do you think to get the best laps? Differences? ty

Hi David. Good to see you here. I don't know if anyone will have an answer to your question. As Hereward said, someone would first of all need both wheels and put some time into testing and then compare it against the controller. The problem would be that someone who is used to a using wheel mightn't be as skilled with the controller and vice-versa.

You don't seem to have any problem on the quickness front, what form of control do you use yourself?
 
hi derek. in scv8nc i'm using the ps3 controller and it seems to me to be better than my g25...the thing i don't understand is that in december 09 i tried the gt academy online, i had no wheel and best players were always 3-4 seconds faster than me; then in middle of january i decided to buy a g25 wheel (my first wheel ever), but i only used it last week of gt academy, anyway i remember i reached 126th position in italy, so a big improvement for mysef...but now in scv8nc i'm not able to have same times lap as with ps3 pad...has anyone tried to use both wheel (g25-27-gt....) and ps3 controller? results? ty
 
Right boys, ill be on from 9pm tonight.........

Ill set up a championship. members only, Password as always will be All the L1's except for last one which is R1

Random Weather
8 Different tracks.
Chicane cutters will be asked to leave.

See you later lads.....
 
hi derek. in scv8nc i'm using the ps3 controller and it seems to me to be better than my g25...the thing i don't understand is that in december 09 i tried the gt academy online, i had no wheel and best players were always 3-4 seconds faster than me; then in middle of january i decided to buy a g25 wheel (my first wheel ever), but i only used it last week of gt academy, anyway i remember i reached 126th position in italy, so a big improvement for mysef...but now in scv8nc i'm not able to have same times lap as with ps3 pad...has anyone tried to use both wheel (g25-27-gt....) and ps3 controller? results? ty

Hey David(da78co) good races last night you're really fast man:tup:
I'll probably will be on tonight for a online championship not certain I can pick up at 9.00 pm ,thought so I'll probably join you guys latter on.:)
 
OK, here comes the long-winded, bile filled rant you've all been waiting for. 👍 (:grumpy:)

As I've only spent a handful of hours with this game, and realize that many of it's finer points, which you've all been raving about, clearly must be hidden deep in it's bowels and will remain undiscovered until unlocking the ambitious 'hypnotic mind control' trophy, I'll try and temper my enthusiasm for what I don't like about Blackbean's 2nd attempt to pass off this underfunded and underdeveloped piece of code as a racing sim.

I should say, I'm somewhat biased. And that's because I purchased the first V8 Superstars last fall after being tricked and fooled by somebody on this forum with a very vile sense of humor, into thinking that it actually had some merits. Oh it may indeed but I never found them because every 2nd time I sat down to play the FFB would give out and I had to restart the game. I also suffered a few random crashes, freezes, car settings that wouldn't save and a host of other problems that were about as much fun as repeatedly poking a pimple with a rusty needle. And it made the process of getting familiar with the game akin to shaking somebody's hand who's suffering from an advanced case of gangrene. I tried, I really did but for several reason, I just couldn't put in the time necessary to form a proper and balanced opinion. And as version one was effectively dead and buried, there seemed to be little point. So there it sits on my shelf.

Enter V8 Superstars: Next Challenge. 👍 (:crazy:) Now granted, I was skeptical. (The word skeptical doesn't adequately cover the scope of my hesitation. It would be like EA announcing the New and Improved NFS:Shift). But if we can say that System 3 shamelessly rebooted Ferrari Challenge with Supercar Challenge with only a few minor tweaks, my initial feelings about SS1 vs SS2 are much the same. And yet, there seemed to be so much unbridled enthusiasm in this thread for Next Challenge, including some from my usual racing buddies, a few of which are quite level headed, that I took a chance and ordered it. Such a large group of trusted sim racers simply couldn't be wrong. 👍 (:scared:) So while I fully accept that it may just possibly be me, I remain somewhat convinced that the lot of you are on some serious drugs. And buying from the same pusher. Are you guys just SO hungry for a decent racing sim that you're really willing to overlook what's wrong with NC? There's an old cliché that the later it gets, and the drunker you are, the better looking the girls in the bar become. Let me tell you, it's nearly 4:00 am, the lot of you are sloshed out of your minds and barely able to see. In fact, you're probably already passed out and just dreaming.

I can see where NC brings a level of sophistication (and I struggled to use that adjective in reference to this game) to the table in it's race weekend where you can run practice laps, set up the car (easily and quickly) do a few laps of practice and continually fine tune the setup in an efficient manner, run qualifying, then the race, both in wet or dry conditions, all while worrying about such often forgotten real life features such as tire wear and varying track conditions. Write it down on paper and this list is enough to make any console sim racer weep with joy. Unfortunately, the actual business of driving is very poorly implemented and in my opinion, it ruins the experience. Completely. The physics and vehicle dynamics seems little improved from the first V8 game. Gentlemen, let's put the joints down and be serious for a minute. If we're going to be really honest with ourselves here, there is NOTHING in any way realistic about the handling and chassis dynamics of these cars. It's at least 10 years behind. And in my opinion, the lack of sophistication from the physics model is an overwhelming glare that's hard to look past. I don't see a BMW nose or Jag dash or a Mercedes steering wheel. I see Sonic the Hedgehog driving the car. Granted, the little rodent has to learn to protect his tires and varying track conditions. Kudos where they're due. But there's something just too...simple...basic I guess you could say, about the way the cars go round the track. And I probably could come to terms with it if this game didn't have a dead zone the size of a truck, the Titanic. It is completely unacceptable that a developer could release a game with deadzone this big. The first time I played, I thought I lost FFB again. Then I wondered if another car was next to me on the track pushing me off. Then I was convinced that my wheel wasn't calibrated with the game correctly. I can't even drive down the main straight at Monza without weaving from side to side. How can you guys enjoy close racing with the FFB in this state?

Anyway, in the few hours I've spent with this game, I've tried to concentrate on just 2-3 tracks and get to learn the different cars. I did two quick race weekends just to get a feel for things. I haven't given up yet and I realize I need to put in at least a dozen hours or so before I can really and properly judge it's features on the level. But as first impressions go...

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In my opinion, your wrong, In fairness you make some very very valid points. I too concur that the developer should face charges for realsing a game where the idea of quality control and testing seemed to have been taboo words.......

I also agree that the deadzone is ****, its the same on the Pad incidentally. HOWEVER you do ge used to it.

Just like you had to get used to bouncing down the straights in Shift because the deadzone was TOO sensitive.

I found the game VERY arcady at first, until you turn off the driving aids and it becomes very different, the cars all have thier own individual quirks and YES it has some great points as you fairly pointed out. The tyre wear is very good, i like the way its proportional to the amount of laps you do, the damage is reasonably realistic TO A POINT and obviously everyone has to like the changable weather.

I dont think anyone is professing that this game is the finished article. I think what has excited people about this game is that it falls between SCC where its perhaps too much of a sim to have a laugh and grid and the likes whic are far too arcade like and normally played by *****.

It rewards you for having a smooth driving style and you can have close racing with a bit of "rubbing" without destroying each others race.

Any racing game that allows 6 players to finish inside of 3 seconds after 5 laps is ok by me.

Perhaps you could try racing with us lot tonight and see if your opinion changes......!!

J
 
Right boys, ill be on from 9pm tonight........

Darn, today is Dirt2 day :(


jjaisli,

loads of good points and most of them are as you state them. But the greatness of this game lays in online. In racing! Name a title on PS3 that gives as good racing experience with your friends?

PS. what comes to the interior of the cars. These are racing cars, not production cars. If you watch some videos from the official site of the series, you see that the interiors of the cars are like they are presented in the game.
 
LOL Fair enough bigjizzy! 👍 I fully admit that I've not put enough time into this game to really offer a balanced opinion. And my initial impressions where overwhelmingly negative and I didn't hold any punches.

I really don't think I'm ready to join on-line just yet but I appreciate the offer. I'll try and join you guys in the next week or two depending on how much time I can put into it and how quickly I can come up to speed. That said, I will admit, the first thing I did was turn off the assists as I don't like driving with them. So I'm not sure what it's even like with them on. But I did have a terrible time trying to cope with the deadzone.

I didn't find the cars TOO different but as they're all similar in weight, power and configuration, I wouldn't expect them to be.

I guess part of my disappointment comes from the fact that there are a lot of games out there that do several things particularly well. But there isn't a single one that does it all. I would love to have a game with the FFB and sense of weight transfer from SCC, the graphics, smooth visuals and phyiscs from GT5TT, the sense of speed and inertia from NFS:Shift, the variable conditions, tire wear and complete race weekend from SSV8:NC. Am I asking for too much?

I haven't given up on NC. I'll keep at it. :)


Name a title on PS3 that gives as good racing experience with your friends?

PS. what comes to the interior of the cars. These are racing cars, not production cars. If you watch some videos from the official site of the series, you see that the interiors of the cars are like they are presented in the game.

Well, I could think of one. But I don't want to turn this thead into a comparison. None-the-less, point taken. For the record, when I was comparing the cars to sonic, I wasn't complaining about the graphics, I was taking a dig at the very basic physics. You just don't get a sense that you have a suspension under you that's really working and reacting to the road. It's more like driving a kart. But as I said, I'll keep at it.
 
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LOL! Now that's hardcore! Fair play to you for getting 2nd place. I daren't even think how low down the field I'd be. I find that on Legend, it's not just the quick lap times that are tricky to beat, but the cars seem like they're actually harder to beat. Seems like they block a lot more than on medium/ hard.

I wish to put out a request anyway. Due to me working nights, I have only raced most of the guys on here a few times, and only at weekends.The one Friday night I was drunk too, so had to quit after race 2 so not to ruin anyone's game.
I'm looking for any of you lot to race in the afternoons, between 12 and 4pm-ish (GMT). I've gone up against AdeUK a few times, and I think Doblo too, but I was wondering if any of the rest of you play much in the afternoons? Most of the rest of the people I race against are still fairly clean racers, but seeing as the game doesn't have the biggest of online communities, I just thought I'd put it out there.
Either drop me a message on here or add me on PSN (GTP_The_Stalker) and we'll get some racing on.

Cheers guys.👍

Hi STALKER
Like you I work nights,but I'm on after work on week-days and sometimes in the afternoon.I'll ad you to my friendslist and maby we can have some races.
see you on the track.👍
 
LOL Fair enough bigjizzy! 👍 I fully admit that I've not put enough time into this game to really offer a balanced opinion. And my initial impressions where overwhelmingly negative and I didn't hold any punches.

Hey man its all about opinions, your entitled to yours as much as the next guy :)

I really don't think I'm ready to join on-line just yet but I appreciate the offer. I'll try and join you guys in the next week or two depending on how much time I can put into it and how quickly I can come up to speed. That said, I will admit, the first thing I did was turn off the assists as I don't like driving with them. So I'm not sure what it's even like with them on. But I did have a terrible time trying to cope with the deadzone.

MAte get yourself online, you wont be at the back i PROMISE you, we will be doing tracks tonight ive never even driven LOL

I didn't find the cars TOO different but as they're all similar in weight, power and configuration, I wouldn't expect them to be.

When you start pushing them closer to the edge you will see a huge difference, especially when you are racing online,

I guess part of my disappointment comes from the fact that there are a lot of games out there that do several things particularly well. But there isn't a single one that does it all. I would love to have a game with the FFB and sense of weight transfer from SCC, the graphics, smooth visuals and phyiscs from GT5TT, the sense of speed and inertia from NFS:Shift, the variable conditions, tire wear and complete race weekend from SSV8:NC. Am I asking for too much?

Thats a fair point i agree that lots of games have v good points, the intertia and sense of speed in Shift being a great example. Perhaps GT5 will do just that and we will all be like pigs isn **** :) :)

:)
 
Come on Jeff, get off the fence. Tell us what you really think of the game!! :lol:

Look, I know coming from the FC/SCC experience the physics feel quite "watered down". In the dry particularly, the cars have too much grip which allows you get away with being far more liberal with the throttle than you would any chance of getting away with in SCC. Certainly, there doesn't seem to be any argument that the FFB compares in any way to the more emersive experience you will get with SCC. Alot of people have also commented on the deadzone issue but most have said that they fairly quickly get used to it and it's not something that causes ongoing strife.

Having said all that, I feel the game has a lot of merits. The fact that you have to adapt your driving style as the race progresses due to tyre wear and the evolving tracks conditions adds to the interest. The tracks are well represented and the ai will give you a far more consistant run for your money no matter where you happen to be in the pack. Too many games have canon fodder ai cars towards the back and a couple of particularly quick cars up front wheras with this game the Legend level ai cars are fairly even with their pace throughout the pack.

Give it a bit of time and try to enjoy it for what it is. In the main, people have been enjoying it because of the close racing it produces with a variety of cars with different attributes and that can't be a bad thing!
 
Hi STALKER
Like you I work nights,but I'm on after work on week-days and sometimes in the afternoon.I'll ad you to my friendslist and maby we can have some races.
see you on the track.👍

OK mate. I'll keep a look out for you.👍
 
Come on Jeff, get off the fence. Tell us what you really think of the game!! :lol:

Too many games have canon fodder ai cars towards the back and a couple of particularly quick cars up front wheras with this game the Legend level ai cars are fairly even with their pace throughout the pack.


Well, you know me. Diplomacy is my middle name. ;)

I think perhaps I just had a very poor initial experience with this game. Case in point. The very first time I tried a race weekend, I was doing a few practice laps at Monza. I was coming down the main straight and there was an AI car on the straight next to the pit wall. As I'm approaching, at more than double his speed, he suddenly darts out onto the racing line literally right in front of me! I had no time to react and slammed directly into him. The car seemed damaged but I was able to keep going. On the very next lap I was following behind two AI cars on the back straight and they both braked late for Parabolica. I went up the inside and both turned in on me and one of them pinned me to the wall for a full 3-4 seconds. And then suddenly there was nobody there. I coudnt even tell where he went. And for those few minutes, I kept asking myself, THIS is the extraordinary AI everybody keeps raving about? You've got to be kidding--it's like they pulled them directly out of NFS: Shift.

But I'm guessing it was just an odd glitch. It's similar with the first SSV8. Several people complained about losing the FFB mid race. But they talked about it as if it would happen maybe once in a blue moon. In my experience, it happened about every 3rd time I played.

Perhaps I'm just cursed. :)
 
Well, I could think of one. But I don't want to turn this thead into a comparison. None-the-less, point taken.

You mean the game with biased difference in wheel vs pad? :D

But it's exactly like you said. They all do something right and something wrong, none is excellent (let's hope that GT5 will fix that). So just sit back and relax for the things that this game does well 👍 (And write an angry feedback to developers about the bad things, lol)

For the record, when I was comparing the cars to sonic, I wasn't complaining about the graphics, I was taking a dig at the very basic physics. You just don't get a sense that you have a suspension under you that's really working and reacting to the road. It's more like driving a kart. But as I said, I'll keep at it.

Okay, I was thinking that maybe you meant that, but decided to say that just in case :)
 
Neil is chuckleing and sharpening his stakes...........Thats really worying.

V8 NC is one of those games which initialy you'll hate, too many little glytches for you to see past. But as with most of us here and on UKOG once you settle into the game yu start to see and feel what the games about. Once your comfortuble and you get online then it all makes sense!

As for the one game that is all things to man, I think God has the only copy and it's been in his PS3 sinse launch....It's like producing the perfect car.....everyone would have one and nobody would ever sell them! It's imposible for such a game to exist LOL

Online with GT5p you'll occasionaly get into a race where your battleing with one or more guys and it's tooth and nail stuff, your heart rate goes up and your eyes are out on stalks, theres a palpatuble sense of tension as you battle for position lap after lap......for me and others, prety much every online race we have is like that! and thats V8's hook. Races tend to see everyone in the lobby afterwards with "war stories' about such and such a pass or block, then all the green go lights are flashing on for the next race before I've smoked half a fag! and that continues well after midnight most nights!

This is the word of JaaaG, all praise it's greeness
 
LOL Fair enough bigjizzy! 👍 I fully admit that I've not put enough time into this game to really offer a balanced opinion. And my initial impressions where overwhelmingly negative and I didn't hold any punches.
I guess part of my disappointment comes from the fact that there are a lot of games out there that do several things particularly well. But there isn't a single one that does it all. I would love to have a game with the FFB and sense of weight transfer from SCC, the graphics, smooth visuals and phyiscs from GT5TT, the sense of speed and inertia from NFS:Shift, the variable conditions, tire wear and complete race weekend from SSV8:NC. Am I asking for too much? QUOTE]

It wasn't so bad after all was it ,Jeff???:lol:
I mean the Brotherwood reaction to yours first negative impressions on the game!
Never the less that doesn't mean you'll get way with it whithout NIELS visit...:lol:
I'm with Bigjizzy join us for a few races tonight and enjoy what the game has best to offer: nice close racing in wonderfull challenging and unique tracks in videogames like Kyalamy and Portimão with a fantastic gear shifter sound in the cockpit view...:)

No you're not but I would like to add to the list that the game should feature the Porche Supercup series,and then yes,it would be perfect!!!:)
 
Jeff,

I think you probably will get more into the game in the next couple of days and your opinion will improve over it. I did, although, in fairness, I'm not (yet) in to it as the rest of the guys here. The game has his unique merits but also has some flaws that just stop me for getting hook (and praise the almighty JaaaG - yeah, yeah, you can send Vlad for a little talk with me...) to it.

But its a nice and enjoyable game.
 
@ Avore, a while back my brother was a race engineer for one of the porsche supercup teams.

I was lucky enough to go to a few races around the globe, (Same weekend as the GP) It makes you laugh that the porsche guys are even more anal than the f1 teams about shaving a hundreth of a second off :) :) not too mention the dirty tricks that go on LOL..

All ill say is Aquamist..................
 
@ Avore, a while back my brother was a race engineer for one of the porsche supercup teams.

I was lucky enough to go to a few races around the globe, (Same weekend as the GP) It makes you laugh that the porsche guys are even more anal than the f1 teams about shaving a hundreth of a second off :) :) not too mention the dirty tricks that go on LOL..

All ill say is Aquamist..................

I find it to be one of the most exciting motorsport events in the world...very tight,competetive close(really close like in glued:scared: ) racing,and yes sometimes a little savage-I guess thats human nature in RL or videogames)-but that only gives more interest from a spectator POV.
I guess,if I remember well,there was a project of making a videogame based in this competition,for PS2, but it never seen the light of day:tdown:
I hope somehow some devs pick this licence for a game...and if it was Eutchenix,well let's just say that GT5-whenever it comes out-would have a strong competitor...
 
Sorry, jjaisli, you see it's a bit of an overspill from someone turning up in a Jag to one of the first online races we did.......it then kinda snowballed and then took a sinister turn when the fact the game was described as "underground".........To recap, and to confuse you further! We (those who race V8 online) are the brotherhood of JaaaaG, our holly/unholly task is to keep the game underground......to this end talking outside this thread of the goodness of V8 NC can result in the removal of your gaming thumb.....you following this?......right as an enforcer of the rules of the bretherin of JaaaG we have our beloved Neil.....better known to the public as Vlad the imapailer! he can be dispatched at any time to those who fall from favour of the bretherin........that would be you and your "Sonic" comparison LOL.

Confused? Yes so are we! The Humour is all a little sarcastic and usualy spills over onto the racetrack! watch these 2 videos as all will become clearer to you......bretherin jjaisli. To sum up Were taking fanboys to the next level.......we don't argue that our games better than yours, we just send Neil round to "sort you out" LOL



 
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Indeed Jeff,

You are Yet to witness the Wrath off Neil, :)

I think you would need to go to page 3 or summat :) :) LOL

Needless to say if you are found to be spreading the word and stopping our game being the underground title that it is, you would surely get a visit and the removal of your gaming thumb will be the price you pay. :) or so i think the rules say.. :) :)

edit: Post lag......LOL
 
Theres nothing better than pulling of a clean pass on some unsuspecting guy in a Jag whilst shouting down the headset in a suitabley "cadish" manour JaaaaaaaaG !!!!! sorry, you have to be there I supose LOL

Bringing a bit of humour though sometimes taking the thread off topic dose make for an interesting read and most get the humor who have read through a few pages......makes racing with the breterin that little bit more special too, we all have a laugh and it can defuse the occasional punt situation and brings the group together. If you want a laugh, just show up for a race in a Jag, Hun made that mistake on his first online race with us LOL

Driving sim games can be a little dry at times and reading pages and pages discussing gear ratios can become tiresome to some. V8 NC is about online close racing, and to that end the humor has brought a good comunity of lileminded drivers together to race online and ultimatly have a good time doing it.

I was once driving through shefield on a warm sunny weekday, windows down ploding through heavy traffic. Then along comes this old Honda CB550......the rider wearing some sort of victorian pee pot on his head, he shouted HOOONNNNDDDAAAAA as he whizzed past us all in a comical deep voice.....I still chuckle about it and a little bit of that has rubbed off on the JaaaaaG passing manouver LOL
 
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Ah. Well, thanks for sorting that out. 👍 (:confused::boggled:)

So you're saying, as the night goes on, and the alcohol keeps coming:
A: The girls get prettier.
B: The game gets better.
C: The jokes funnier.

:sly:

Tonight is out. And many of these tracks, I haven't driven a single lap either in this game or others. But I'll be joining you guys soon. If you'll have me. And I promise I won't tell anybody else about it. As I don't have a gaming "thumb" to lose, I'm afraid I'd have to sacrifice my 'wheel arms'.
 
Yeah and the alchol is out too, many is the message....I;m too drunk tonight guys, I'll be on tomorow, last one was to drunk due to port......we have a higher class drunk in the bretherin LOL

Theres a grid position waiting for you mate, if it's a "locked room" the password is L1 L1 L1 L1 L1 R1.........guard it with your life, no seriously! Friends are welcome to tag along with you also, the rooms are very stable and lag free so numbers aren't an issue, though if you have a low ping to the host coms can be a little choppy but screaming JaaaG can be made out by everyone LOL
 
Sorry to spoil the party, but I don't think Jeff should go online into a full bretherin lobby until he gets over the "deadzone" problem, and can deal/anticipate/compensate/whatever ... with it.

It's either that or making a monumental sideswipe with your own Jaaaag and send the High Lord Chancellor's BMW to grass-mowing duties while at the same time you hear him swear and call for VLAD to impale Duncst ... eheh
 
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