I'm looking at things from the realistic perspective of the F1 sport. And I'm not even exactly sure of what PM's view is, so I wouldn't necessarily say whether I share it or not. I'm just saying that I was personally let down by Bruno's in-race performances this season, because I like him and wanted to see him succeed.
In Formula 1, drivers who deserve more of a chance due to unfair circumstances often don't get it. That's just how it is. I don't really feel that I have a current debate about anything with you, honestly.
I'm sorry if I came at you the wrong way.
When you came in responding to PM's statements, it seemed as though you were intending to make a bit of a mockery out of the whole discussion that was going on. I apologize for the mis-interpretation then.
Maybe in the wider context. But too many people are dumbing it down to Senna vs. Petrov in a straight qualifying fight. They say "Senna sometimes out-qualified Petrov" as if this is some proof that Senna was always faster, even when Petrov out-qualified Senna five times to three, and when Senna only out-raced Petrov in one of the three races where he outqualified the Russian. But in the wider context, being faster in three qualifying sessions means virtually nothing - and when you look at the actual race results (ie the only ones that actually count towards championship points), Petrov clearly had the upper hand because every time both of them finished, Petrov finished ahead of Senna, with the exception of Singapore.:
But on the same token, going by that logic, you saying "Petrov was clearly faster than Heidfield" is just as meaningless - In that at the end of their short tenure together, Heidfeld was the one with the more points (which is the only thing you're placing importance on it seems).
You seem to have a bad habit of showcasing to the world the only part of the debate you think you have in your pocket, while shoving the other part in the closet and hoping everyone will forget it/not see it, time and time again. With that said,
if qualifying pace doesn't matter ("It's not as if points are given for qualifying"),
and Petrov was "clearly quicker than Heidfield or Senna" I don't get why you throw the fact that he got outscored by Heidfield (in the 11 races they were together) under the rug.
I'm not here to have a pissing match with you dude. I just get tired of seeing you play good cop, bad cop
I'ts made even worse by the fact that your ego is so inflated that you can't even acknowledge the 1 time you might be wrong...something I can at least do from time to time, when neccesary.
Also for what it is worth, according to F1fanatics statistics, Senna beat Petrov 4/8 times in qualy (with a avg. gap of -.168) according to their stats...although their actual comparison graph shows 5/8. I'd like to research this more for the hell of it.
If that's true, then Petrov's team-mates haven't shown themselves to be particularly special in comparison to him.
And this is likely why neither of them (Heidfield or Senna) have a seat for next year. Thus, "He's (Petrov) a Klien-level driver and will need his sponsors to get a seat." -Sagaris
