The 2020 George Floyd/BLM/Police Brutality Protests Discussion Thread

I really hate seeing this. I know some people are saying that "buildings can be replaced" or "that's what insurance is for" but I'm guessing those people have never actually dealt with insurance companies.
I'd been reading some share that insurance companies don't automatically cover destruction from things like a riot; that those are sometimes covered under an additional plan.
hi! those looking for a video I posted of some police officers (boston) handling bricks from a truck behind NUPD: I did take this down because I started to receive direct harassment
Responded with the wrong attitude.

"I did take this down because it was unknowingly false information at the time".
 
Responded with the wrong attitude.

"I did take this down because it was unknowingly false information at the time"
I thought the exact same thing when I read it. It spins the author as the voice of reason facing opposition from those who don't want "the truth" to come out.
 
I thought the exact same thing when I read it. It spins the author as the voice of reason facing opposition from those who don't want "the truth" to come out.
I don't get it. The article is entitled "hoax alert" and makes it clear the cops weren't planting bricks. I don't see any positive spin on behalf of the tweeter who passed it on. It just quotes her excuse. Unless it's the tweeter you're criticising in which case fine. At any rate that's the fact check Facebook are using to flag this video, positive spin or otherwise.
 
I don't get it. The article is entitled "hoax alert" and makes it clear the cops weren't planting bricks. I don't see any positive spin on behalf of the tweeter who passed it on. It just quotes her excuse. Unless it's the tweeter you're criticising in which case fine. At any rate that's the fact check Facebook are using to flag this video, positive spin or otherwise.
That's precisely what I'm doing. It's an appeal to conspiracy. Whether such a formal or informal logical fallacy exists, it's a common tactic among those who wish to spin the ininaty they spew as being righteous, with those who criticize it being the supposed enemy of the truth. I question whether any threats were made there was any harassment.

Apologies for any confusion I caused with the ambiguity of my comment.

As an aside, I love social media platforms taking on responsibility by exposing falsehoods, and with no apparent bias indicated by the targeting of their fact checks.
 
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I'd been reading some share that insurance companies don't automatically cover destruction from things like a riot; that those are sometimes covered under an additional plan.
Exactly. Large companies won't return to the major cities for this reason and others like remote working, and many small independent businesses are already ruined and never coming back. The future for large cities becomes increasingly bleak, as the wealthy are fleeing and the tax base is shrinking. Crucified on a cross of debt.
 
Exactly. Large companies won't return to the major cities for this reason and others like remote working, and many small independent businesses are already ruined and never coming back. The future for large cities becomes increasingly bleak, as the wealthy are fleeing and the tax base is shrinking. Crucified on a cross of debt.

I think you are being overly dramatic.
 
I'm waiting for a rational counterargument. Being none, my point prevails.
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Exactly. Large companies won't return to the major cities for this reason and others like remote working, and many small independent businesses are already ruined and never coming back. The future for large cities becomes increasingly bleak, as the wealthy are fleeing and the tax base is shrinking. Crucified on a cross of debt.
I think that's an exaggerated outlook. Most of these big businesses will come back b/c their insurance plans cover everything. When I worked at Target in my youth, our asset protection officer always reminded us to never acknowledge or approach someone stealing, even if we caught it first hand. Just call it in, let him check the cameras & it would be handled. Everything was insured. Their security monitor is (or was) among the best as well, so it wasn't hard to get clear pictures of thieves and turn the media over to police.

The small businesses will likely suffer, but there's evidence of people donating money to get these businesses back up & running. I've linked one, I believe @TexRex linked 1 that was inside an article he shared for a black barber who lost his business to a fire. Others do likely have insurance that will help, it will just take a while.
 
The small businesses will likely suffer, but there's evidence of people donating money to get these businesses back up & running. I've linked one, I believe @TexRex linked 1 that was inside an article he shared for a black barber who lost his business to a fire. Others do likely have insurance that will help, it will just take a while.
I think that may have been someone else. I don't recall having done so, anyway. The past several days are a blur as I've been suffering from postnasal drip as a result of seasonal allergies, and I haven't been sleeping well because of it.

However, I'm pretty sure I commented on someone posting a GoFundMe campaign for a...sports bar?

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Non-issue, really. Just some dumb Karen looking for a way to be at the "forefront" of the movement.
There's an unfortunate trend of people using these events and circumstances that arise from these events as a means to push a narrative which is itself at times far removed from the root issue.
 
Exactly. Large companies won't return to the major cities for this reason and others like remote working, and many small independent businesses are already ruined and never coming back. The future for large cities becomes increasingly bleak, as the wealthy are fleeing and the tax base is shrinking. Crucified on a cross of debt.

Some cities are hurting, yes. However, others aren't.

The top five fastest-growing cities in terms of population are:
1. Austin, Texas
2. Miami, Florida
3. Seattle, Washington (I figured you'd known this)
4. Henderson, Nevada (might as well be Vegas)
5. Denver, Colorado

With that population growth comes tax revenue and a most robust economy.

Honest question, do you just post things to post them or do you honestly feel a certain way? I know in the past you've said you just play the "Devil's Advocate", but it sure feels like you're just trolling.
 
Honest question, do you just post things to post them or do you honestly feel a certain way? I know in the past you've said you just play the "Devil's Advocate", but it sure feels like you're just trolling.
I'm curious to hear his response to this as well.
 
For discussion of abandonment of riot torn and indebted US cities, please see new thread created for purpose.
 
I really hate seeing this. I know some people are saying that "buildings can be replaced" or "that's what insurance is for" but I'm guessing those people have never actually dealt with insurance companies.

For those lucky enough to not have experience dealing with insurance companies...

Granted I'm really only familiar with the residential side, but I think the average time someone is displaced after a fire is about 8 months. For full guts (pretty much nothing is salvageable) it's not uncommon for it to take closer to a year. A lot of it has to do with how busy the restoration companies are as well, which in Minnesota at least is pretty damned busy (at least the ones my company deals with are).

Again, that's all residential, but I can't imagine the timelines are much better on the commercial side. So even if you have enough coverage to replace the building, you're still going to have to deal with no profit for pretty close to an entire year, which isn't something most small businesses can do.
 
I think that may have been someone else. I don't recall having done so, anyway. The past several days are a blur as I've been suffering from postnasal drip as a result of seasonal allergies, and I haven't been sleeping well because of it.

However, I'm pretty sure I commented on someone posting a GoFundMe campaign for a...sports bar?
Thought it was, but I apologize to the member who did; I vividly remember it b/c the article enticed me to find his GoFundMe & it ended up being at the end of the article.

The sports bar was me, though.
Some cities are hurting, yes. However, others aren't.

5. Denver, Colorado
Did the new meaning behind "Mile High City" have anything to do with that in recent years? :P
 
This is truly sickening. I understand the cops have got a job to do but when it's so obvious that someone is seriously injured as a result of your actions you don't walk on by. You can see one cop realises how serious it is and moves to help but his supervisor (?) stops him. Clearly bleeding heavily from the ear which is a sign of a fractured skull. That's just inhumane.


It appears that he had found one of their helmets and was just trying to give it back.

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Notice how one of the hats for sale (in camo!) is "Keep America Great".

Keep American Great. Not make it great, keep.

Does anyone else feel that the United States went from not great to great in the last four years?

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It's a Trump 2020 election campaign hat - 2016 was about getting Trump into power, 2020 is about keeping him there, hence the new slogan. But yeh, it is slightly ridiculous either way.
 
You can see one cop realises how serious it is and moves to help but his supervisor (?) stops him.
The incident is disgusting, but the apparent attention that the victim is allowed moments later leads me to believe this part is more along the lines of "No, no, let's leave that to someone with experience so that we don't do even more harm." The "supervisor" clearly radios as he withdraws the other officer, presumably for assistance.
 
It's a Trump 2020 election campaign hat - 2016 was about getting Trump into power, 2020 is about keeping him there, hence the new slogan. But yeh, it is slightly ridiculous either way.

This might be what Great means for Trump.
 
These riots show the ridicularity of (in this case) the USA,(the UK's just as bad). 40,000 deaths in nursing homes , no riots, no media coverage.
 
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