The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

GTPlanet Exit Poll - Which Presidential Ticket Did You Vote For?

  • Trump/Pence

    Votes: 16 27.1%

  • Biden/Harris

    Votes: 20 33.9%

  • Jorgensen/Cohen

    Votes: 7 11.9%

  • Hawkins/Walker

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • La Riva/Freeman

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • De La Fuente/Richardson

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Blankenship/Mohr

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Carroll/Patel

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Simmons/Roze

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Charles/Wallace

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 15 25.4%
  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
Scaff
None of the above.
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You're supposed to pick B. B was slipped in there to justify C in satisfying A, or if C is a little too difficult to consider, it justifies extrajudicial execution to satisfy A and makes Trump's comments seem less bad.
 
TexRex
You're supposed to pick B. B was slipped in there to justify C in satisfying A, or if C is a little too difficult to consider, it justifies extrajudicial execution to satisfy A and makes Trump's comments seem less bad.
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Damn, I guess the evil leftie liberal in me just didn't see it.
 
Danoff
Early votes in Texas surpass all the statewide ballots cast for Trump in 2016

Crazy
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I can see how this voter enthusiasm could play out two different ways. Enthusiasm for Trump - which is obviously very real - could motivate soft voters & first time voters to turn out in un-precedented numbers ... or disgust with Trump could motivate soft voters & first time voters to turn out in un-precedented numbers. Or both, in which case they might cancel each other out. My own feeling is that "suburban voters" - especially women - will decide the result.
 
ryzno
At least he gave an answer...
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I did as well:

TexRex
Sure, forgiveness, but also justice. And by that I mean actual justice, for all parties involved, because the criminal justice system functioned as it should and nobody had their rights violated in the process of holding the appropriate individual(s) to account for their action(s), rather than some skewed interpretation of justice that puts greater emphasis on not justice as part of an appeal to emotion.
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I wonder if actual justice being set aside to enact not justice is still satisfying in the event that the individual(s) held accountable and executed didn't actually perpetrate the hypothetical act. Is that an acceptable loss in such a scenario? And who is held accountable for the death of the innocent? Are they deserving of actual justice instead of not justice?

I realize that the criminal justice system is deeply flawed and actual justice may still not be delivered to all involved, but the answer isn't to bypass it entirely and to give in to impulse and emotion. It wasn't among the loaded options provided, but I still choose actual justice, for all involved (because even criminals deserve it), even in the event that someone for whom I care very deeply (or someone for whom @Eunos_Cosmo cares very deeply, as it were) is killed. That's what the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution is all about.
 
I'm trying to think of an ideal country for @ryzno, based on what you've shared with us. I mean the USA is a pretty good fit based on the fairly lax laws regarding drugs an alcohol (and by lax, I mean you don't get executed for possessing them :lol:) and broad range of ethnically diverse hotties. But the lack of extrajudicial execution seems to be a sticking point. Unfortunately, most countries where extrajudicial killing is "common" the most typical target of the mob is...well drug users. For example:

The Philippines has pretty good track record for extrajudicial execution...unfortunately I feel like you might end up on the wrong side of that coin.

On the other side of the killing equation...

Scandinavia - great for booze & hash...but there is an entire website dedicated to how lacking in diversity it is. Also, they straight up don't kill people there.

I mean really, I think your ideal spot is temporal more than geographical - 1890s New Orleans (I highly recommend Gary Krist's Empire of Sin, give it a read.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
I'm trying to think of an ideal country for @ryzno, based on what you've shared with us. I mean the USA is a pretty good fit based on the fairly lax laws regarding drugs an alcohol (and by lax, I mean you don't get executed for possessing them :lol:) and broad range of ethnically diverse hotties. But the lack of extrajudicial execution seems to be a sticking point. Unfortunately, most countries where extrajudicial killing is "common" the most typical target of the mob is...well drug users. For example:

The Philippines has pretty good track record for extrajudicial execution...unfortunately I feel like you might end up on the wrong side of that coin.

On the other side of the killing equation...

Scandinavia - great for booze & hash...but there is an entire website dedicated to how lacking in diversity it is. Also, they straight up don't kill people there.

I mean really, I think your ideal spot is temporal more than geographical - 1890s New Orleans (I highly recommend Gary Krist's Empire of Sin, give it a read.
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Wild west. Extrajudicial killing plus vigilante justice.
 
Eunos_Cosmo
I don't disagree, but turn of the century New Orleans had all that plus it was very diverse. Hard to believe it now, but New Orleans used to be the most important city of the south.
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And now it's sinking/drowning.
 


I can't believe that selfish Joe Biden paid to charter an Amtrack train (like Bush did) instead of letting it be used by the people that weren't riding Amtrack trains even before everyone stopped using public transportation so they don't die.
 
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Isn't Amtrak owned by the government? Wouldn't his campaign be pumping money back into it if so? His campaign has already said they didn't get any sort of discounted-rates to use it.
 
And, real talk, Biden has been a huge supporter of Amtrak for decades. It's not as though this is Richard Nixon endorsing Duff.

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"The man never rode an Amtrak in his life!
 
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They thought they had him dead to rights over the NYPost farce (but let's face it, that wasn't so much about holding anyone accountable as it was about smear) and now they're flinging anything with the hope that it sticks.
 
McLaren
Isn't Amtrak owned by the government? Wouldn't his campaign be pumping money back into it if so? His campaign has already said they didn't get any sort of discounted-rates to use it.
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Somewhat. It's its own corporation and operated as a for-profit company, but Uncle Sam loosely controls its direction and covers its losses at the end of the year.
 
lol repeating the same thing that companies went running screaming away from Trump when he said it offhand at a rally is an interesting debate argument.
 
So Biden thinks the first responders we all clap for work for minimum wage and need a raise to $15 an hour. :lol:
 

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