The GTP Unofficial 2020 US Elections Thread

GTPlanet Exit Poll - Which Presidential Ticket Did You Vote For?

  • Trump/Pence

    Votes: 16 27.1%
  • Biden/Harris

    Votes: 20 33.9%
  • Jorgensen/Cohen

    Votes: 7 11.9%
  • Hawkins/Walker

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • La Riva/Freeman

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • De La Fuente/Richardson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Blankenship/Mohr

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Carroll/Patel

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Simmons/Roze

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Charles/Wallace

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 15 25.4%

  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .
I just don't get Joe Rogan. I like him as a presenter or analyst when I'm watching UFC but everything else... uh, no thanks.

It's like some people would have you think he's the Ed Sullivan of the 2010s but look at the pondlife he's had on his show; it speaks for itself.
Joe was fine up until he started entertaining anti-Covid theories on his show, and then for some reason, just went full throttle into it (like hot takes about how comedy is essential). The move to Spotify (while I don't blame Spotify) seems to have somehow just amplified the controversy & some of it isn't even political talk (like Joe claiming ads wouldn't run on Spotify & they actually do).

I mean, for ***** sake, Joe had on Dr. Michael Osterholm to discuss the coronavirus, and actually put a lot of fear at ease explaining the virus. It is one the most watched videos on his YouTube at 15M or so views. Dr. Osterholm was just named a member of Biden's Covid Task Force. And somehow, Joe just forgets everything the man taught him.

The sad thing is Joe has had on entertaining guests I like to listen to, but he just brings up the same old script. I don't give a **** what Ron White thinks about politics and it's clear he doesn't care, either. Talk about tater salad.
Well that went well for Trump's legal team.


My understanding, it's hard to plainly lie like Trump does when your right to practice law is on the line.

I haven’t heard/seen anyone talking about the electors yet. Is there a public list of who they are in each state? Which states have laws that force them to vote for the popular winner in the state? And which states do they have leeway to vote against the popular vote?
I don't think it'll be an issue of faithless electors. I believe 2 Republican electors shot down any idea of going against the vote of the people. Seems like a very quick way to give people a legitimate reason to riot when tensions are still high.

Trump seems to be musing a 2024 run. This suggests that he's starting to accept reality.
I can't see how or the cash to flaunt that undertaking. He owes money. He's already selling off personal assets. It's been found some of the money people are donating to him for legal funds are actually being used to pay off campaign debt.
Like I said dirty politics didn't I ? Nothing surprises me. It's actually a complete disgrace of what Democrocy is supposed to be.
I mean the current outcome is still closer to Democracy than letting a sitting President point-blank tell Americans he won't accept election results & then does a bunch of nefarious tasks to undermine the process by which democracy works.
 
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Alright so I’m a long time lurker here but what exactly would you consider about the JRE podcast with Dave Smith to be alt-right? I actually relistened to it earlier to try and validate what you and reddit are saying and I fail to see it
 
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I stand corrected. :lol:

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I suppose it's a credit to the power of the human brain, but the first thing that jumped out at me was "a bigot" in the lower line. The abbreviation doesn't even make sense if the letters are arranged in that manner, and yet I can't not see it.
 
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Biden has carried Arizona

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/politics/biden-wins-arizona/index.html

Looking at the map, it's striking how polarized the US has become along the city/rural divide. I looked quite a bit, and I could only find three "large" cities that Trump carried in the entire country. Oklahoma City, OK, Boise ID, and Mobile AL. That's it. Sometime, when I have time, I'd like to do an analysis to see at what population density is the cutoff between GOP and Dem control. I want to say it's somewhere around 1500-2000 people / square mile.

edit: Looks like Trump also carried Colorado Springs which is kind large.
 
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I read that in his voice.

I miss Stefon. It's like Bill was just there to get Seth to break but he usually just ended up breaking himself. Of course covering his mouth to conceal it ended up being a Stefon tic.
 
This is a 2017 interview. Long YT video but you only need to watch the first 5 minutes to realize how what your President-Elect was saying back then made almost prophetic sense.

Also (around the 10:00 mark) very interesting considering what's happening now, he talks about Pence, about the talks they had during the transition, and there's a funny moment at 12:15 when he says Pence did a very good speech in Munich (won't spoil what made that a funny moment).

I don't consider Biden a saint or the best american politician out there. He is just decent and, most notably in these troubled times ... reassuringly normal and aware of his position and the restraint he needs to use when speaking in public!

Enjoy:

 
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Welcome back to the party. NSFW if anyone cares,

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I'd say he means that the US is back...to the things it removed itself from, such as various international treaties and agreements, alliances, economic partnerships, etc. Trump has been working very hard to isolate the US from all its allies and partners ever since he was elected. There is only one reason the US ever grew into highly developed powerhouse that it is, and that was through carefully groomed economic and security partners. For our entire history before WW1, and continuing to WW2, the US was isolated, underdeveloped, and relatively inconsequential on the world stage. Only during WW2 when we embraced international agreements did our economy blossom. There is absolutely zero evidence that any of our success ever came from our long periods of international isolation. For better or worse, the reason we're so good at everything is because the rest of the world needed somebody to be good at anything, so we intervened and offered that. If a person actually believes in "American exceptionalism" then they necessarily must believe in American interventionism, because that is precisely why the US became exceptional. It's a toxic ideology but it's also why you have three televisions, two consoles, and air conditioning in your house and two cars in the driveway.
 
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Biden has carried Arizona

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/politics/biden-wins-arizona/index.html

Looking at the map, it's striking how polarized the US has become along the city/rural divide. I looked quite a bit, and I could only find three "large" cities that Trump carried in the entire country. Oklahoma City, OK, Boise ID, and Mobile AL. That's it. Sometime, when I have time, I'd like to do an analysis to see at what population density is the cutoff between GOP and Dem control. I want to say it's somewhere around 1500-2000 people / square mile.

edit: Looks like Trump also carried Colorado Springs which is kind large.

Hmm ... has already been perfectly articulated in my profoundly perceptual Panera Principle TM

"Anywhere further than 50 miles from the nearest Panera will have voted for Trump".
 
I'd say he means that the US is back...to the things it removed itself from, such as various international treaties and agreements, alliances, economic partnerships, etc. Trump has been working very hard to isolate the US from all its allies and partners ever since he was elected. There is only one reason the US ever grew into highly developed powerhouse that it is, and that was through carefully groomed economic and security partners. For our entire history before WW1, and continuing to WW2, the US was isolated, underdeveloped, and relatively inconsequential on the world stage. Only during WW2 when we embraced international agreements did our economy blossom. There is absolutely zero evidence that any of our success ever came from our long periods of international isolation. For better or worse, the reason we're so good at everything is because the rest of the world needed somebody to be good at anything, so we intervened and offered that. If a person actually believes in "American exceptionalism" then they necessarily must believe in American interventionism, because that is precisely why the US became exceptional. It's a toxic ideology but it's also why you have three televisions, two consoles, and air conditioning in your house and two cars in the driveway.
A provocative thesis! I like it.
But in the meantime the US 900lb gorilla has been joined by an even bigger beast - China. The future is one of competition.
 
"Anywhere further than 50 miles from the nearest Panera will have voted for Trump".
Fake news. There's a Panera in Fargo and just over half the county voted for Trump (49.5 to 46.8). :irked:

The rest of the state you're correct on, though.
 
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Fake news. There's a Panera in Fargo and just over half the county voted for Trump (49.5 to 46.8). :irked:

Still applies. The Panera Principle doesn't say people within the 50 miles won't have voted for Trump, it says:

"Anywhere further than 50 miles from the nearest Panera will have voted for Trump".
 
Still applies. The Panera Principle doesn't say people within the 50 miles won't have voted for Trump, it says:

"Anywhere further than 50 miles from the nearest Panera will have voted for Trump".

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Humboldt county voted for Biden. The closest Panera is in Chico, almost 100 miles away. :P

I think it needs another component -

"Anywhere further than 50 miles from the nearest Panera or Subaru dealership will have voted for Trump".

There's a Subaru dealership right in the middle of Eureka...:lol:
 
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