The Human Comedy 8 - Gr.3 Lake Maggiore
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Oh,boy....i still not complete this broken race My best times is with Z4(1 57-1.58,couple of laps 1.56.5-8),but with AMG i get very good times too and feel comfortable to drive!
Take a break for few days and try it again with AMG(Z4 after lap-6-7 tyres is totally crap -RM)!And last laps with Z4 my times is totally going up??
I golded CE and hit so many laps 1.58 ,but ...in race impossible to hit this time ????What a bug is this race???
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dr_slump
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- Droptop2001gt
I had the exact opposite feeling. I couldn't win with two stops no matter how many times I tried. Going heads up against Rubilar and Beauvois for 30 laps felt impossible for me, especially when they only stopped twice. I found it much easier to beat Kokubun and Miyazono on their strategy.
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Must be car dependent. Issue with that Mazda is he doesn't lose much time before the pits, which is where you'd make up your time when undercutting. AI in this event seems to be actually conserving its tires at the beginning, then they maintain the pace, while your tires are shot because you start 12th and have to win.
I finally did it. I used the RCZ. 1st 7 laps on RM and FM1, pitted for RM and add fuel to last for 8 laps on FM1, pitted for RH and fuel tank on FM2. My best lap was a 1:57.08x. I raced on normal difficulty and on the first two laps I took no prisoners to get up the field.
It’s maybe doable on 3 stops on RM if you can drive on the limit for 1h.
To people struggling on lap times, on T4 use the grey area after the curbs to optimize exit speed.
This was an exciting race. Took me 4 full attempts and a few 1st stints trying different cars and strategies. It was worth it. I hope PD adds more of this 1h races with this level of AI.
Edit: I played on the ps4 version with the controller and had TCS off most of the time. At the end of each stint I turned TCS1 to avoid spinning.
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dr_slump
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Racing hard tires last more than long enough, probably could do the whole race on one set of those.
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Question on BOP. If I want to practice in TT mode with the car in order to get a gage on my lap times should I just lower power with ECU (or power restrictor) until I reach settings (for AMG this is 522 hp). BOP weight is stock weight in this case but I assume if that were higher just add ballast. Are there other changes? Want to replicate as close as possible handling of car… I know it won’t have fuel weight or tire wear but the closer the better. My rule of thumb is about 2 seconds per lap slower in race with fuel/tire wear vs TT mode.
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- RestlessInferno
Golded it on my second attempt. First try was with the AMG using RM's pitting at the end of laps 10 and 20. Was running mid 1.58's in the first 2/3's of the stint but fell off to 2.00 flats for the last few laps. Best was around a 1.57.2xx. Couldn't keep up with the BMW and got passed by the other AMG on the last lap to finish 3rd around 6 seconds off the lead.
For the second attempt I used the RCZ. Pitted at the end of laps 10 and 20 for RM's and a refuel to 90% and 80% fuel respectively. Fastest lap was a 1.56.4xx with most laps being around the mid 1.57's to the low 1.58's. Won by 40.5 seconds over the AMG. I also probably got lucky with some traffic as it seemed the BMW and AMG couldn't negotiate the cars on different strategies as easy. Compared to the AMG, the RCZ seems to be easier to handle on worn tires and very slightly better at fuel use.
For the second attempt I used the RCZ. Pitted at the end of laps 10 and 20 for RM's and a refuel to 90% and 80% fuel respectively. Fastest lap was a 1.56.4xx with most laps being around the mid 1.57's to the low 1.58's. Won by 40.5 seconds over the AMG. I also probably got lucky with some traffic as it seemed the BMW and AMG couldn't negotiate the cars on different strategies as easy. Compared to the AMG, the RCZ seems to be easier to handle on worn tires and very slightly better at fuel use.
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I'm now stuck at this too
RCZ , DS4 , TC1 ABSDefault rest off
none of the laps I can do lower than 1.58.4 and Im the weird here that I did not struggling wiht Rubilar (M6) or the RX AI.. Rather I had trouble with the GR SUPRA AI (Yamanaka) by lap 8 I was +5.6 behind, during the S corner I can cut down to like +5.0 then by the end of the downhill it goes to +6.1.
Not to account the cars ready to spin by the first downhill turn earlier (idk what turn it is, uphill to the right before the S curve)
I gave up even before Lap 10
RCZ , DS4 , TC1 ABSDefault rest off
none of the laps I can do lower than 1.58.4 and Im the weird here that I did not struggling wiht Rubilar (M6) or the RX AI.. Rather I had trouble with the GR SUPRA AI (Yamanaka) by lap 8 I was +5.6 behind, during the S corner I can cut down to like +5.0 then by the end of the downhill it goes to +6.1.
Not to account the cars ready to spin by the first downhill turn earlier (idk what turn it is, uphill to the right before the S curve)
I gave up even before Lap 10
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Managed to win this barely on third attempt. Went back to the drawing board with my laps using a bit more liberties with the track boundaries especially for the two hairpins. First stint I got out of the blocks hot, but after every pit I had a bad lap or two (lack of concentration) compounded by traffic that was costing me the lead I built in stint 1 over Beauvois. Kept running into 1 stop strategy cars in the S's where I would gain significantly on AI so lost that advantage maybe 3 laps in a row and Beauvois gained on me each of those laps. Also came out of first stop just behind a pack of 3 'slow cars' which was frustrating. The light change mid-race impacted me, eyes not that great anymore lol. Also Beauvois must be better at managing fuel because he had a bunch more coming into first pits in same car and his overall pit time was lower. Included all my non pit-stop lap times in the image for a reference... these are about the minimum times you can do and expect to win. [2 stop strategy on mediums obviously]
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After around 15-20 attempts at this race I FINALLY got it. I used the Peugeot RCZ, on easy difficulty, (not sure if the difficulty glitch is still happening) So I started on racing medium tires, the first 1-4 laps I took no prisoners and plowed my way through the pack, got myself to 2nd place around 3 seconds behind 1st, then Beauvois in 3rd and Rubilar in 4th started to catch me and put me under huge pressure so i defended like crazy not letting them get past me for the next 6 laps before the first pitstop (end of lap 10) during these 6 laps I fuel saved even running fuel map 6 thru the fast flowing corners (I think 6, 7, and 8..) but switching back to fuel map 1 on the straights where Beauvois and Rubilar are so quick. I entered the first pitstop with 40% fuel still remaining.. where Beauvois and Rubilar have around 28% remaining.. I refueled up to 10.5 laps of fuel, (as I will be pitting end of lap 20) I came out down the pack amongst the one stoppers but importantly around 15 seconds ahead Beauvois and Rubilar.. and i put my foot down in fuel map 1, lapping in the low 1.58s for the first 5 laps of this stint slowing to high 1.59s for the last few laps before the 2nd pitstop.. I got to 1st place overtaking C.Lopez just before the pitstop but now I.Fraga (another 2 stopper) was only 6 seconds behind me.. Again refueled for 10.5 laps, came out 35 seconds behind C.Lopez and again put my foot down catching him with 2 laps left and finally winning by 5 seconds ahead of him.. I.Fraga in 3rd.. 8 seconds behind, Beauvois and Rubilar finished 5th and 6th respectively around 20 seconds behind having been held up by traffic. The key to winning is the first stint, get into 2nd or even 1st if you can and DEFEND, DEFEND, DEFEND!! And fuel save!! It saves you sooo much time in the first pitstop which gives you the advantage over Beauvois and Rubilar. (I know this is a long confusing read 😄😄) hopefully it can help someone 🤞🤞
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Yah, if 58s are max pace while pushing 95%+ it's very difficult to maintain for an hour -- lots of places on this track where it's easy to lose time with a tiny error. If you are at the limit looking at track map or fuel mix or anything can distract you enough to lose it. lol. Even stopping for a pit can get you out of rhythm if you are that close to the limit. If you can manage 58s driving 80-85% and even a dab of fuel saving it's not so bad and then you can dip into 57s if you really need to during race for short periods.
Maybe practice outside of the event until you can more consistently get the lap times you desire where you don't feel you are on the edge for an hour. It's less frustrating to do this in TT mode where the pressure is off and you can use a ghost to try out some different lines and see impact. Shaving 0.25 off a couple corners can accumulate to a lot over a 30 lap race and when you commit it to muscle memory less likely to mess it up. Even if the car isn't exactly as BOP in TT mode you can set ECU to match BOP HP and it's close enough that for your lines it won't make a difference. You'll be faster with constant good tires and no fuel weight in TT, so you probably need to hit 56s and consistently 57s in TT mode to translate to 57/58 in race when tires are good. Improving lines tend to also save tires so you'll see less degradation.
I went through this process and went from 2nd place back about 12 seconds to a win by 2 seconds (and could have been 8-10 seconds but bad luck with traffic). I watched a video and found out I wasn't using enough curbing on turn 2... went from losing time to AI there to gaining a tad every lap. Same with turn 11 hairpin were you can cut well across curbing and get on throttle a lot earlier that way for the long full throttle section to follow. I was already good on the S's -- that's where you can gain lots of time on the AI and it's also where luck plays a major part -- hit traffic in the middle of this and you get slowed a lot losing time versus gaining time with clean run. You need to get the entry nailed in the S's which ultimately leads to high exit speed from section and you can gain chunks every lap on AI here.
Another things is learning best overtaking spots... if you can get ahead before S's by all means dive bomb... you don't want to follow there if at all possible... Other parts of the tracks there isn't as much of a rush. Probably my biggest weakness was taking too much time getting passes and being held up more than I should have. Can't practice that in TT mode! The AI are like trains... they can't be bumped out of the way, but you can late brake them in a few places and though they try to fight back you can make it stick if you don't completely mess up exit.
After a good long session in TT mode I went back to race and improved a lot. Besides getting some 57s in race the drop off over 10 laps stint was less pronounced... no more dead tires at end causing me to lose chunks of time just prior to pits. Good luck, don't give up. maybe take a break from race pressure and practice getting consistently and comfortably fast[er] first.
PS> if I were going to work on this more [I'm not, win is a win and no more credits to earn] I would work on the final corner exit and trying to perfect that. If you are following here and can make a pass down the long straight that will save you a lot. I would match exit speed of AI here, but only once did I manage a draft pass down the straight. I'm pretty sure the better drivers could have come out with better speed and made easier passes that don't compromise time like they do on most of the rest of the track -- not to mention maybe gain you time with closer/faster drafting down the first half of straight.
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Yah, I got gold in the CE with room to spare, but there was still a lot of room for improvement and the car handling is different so not everything is exactly the same. Golding the CE was quite a bit easier to be honest because it's one lap on the edge and toss it if it turns out bad vs putting a bunch together and managing risk. Even after the CE and an attempt at the race I went back to TT and cut a second off my lap times while driving with more control and that was the difference for me.
PS> If you want to see some alien lap times (in the CE) check out the WRS leaderboard this week since they are using the CE as the basis for the competition: https://wrs.gtplanet.net/GT7/week/3/... they are only submitting sector 1 and 2 lap times during the event, but after the submission deadline you'll see the full lap time and have an idea how far you're off.
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