The war on ISIS.

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Saudi Arabia severs diplomatic relations with Iran, expelling Iranian diplomats and recalling the diplomats that are in Tehran today. the Iranian diplomats have 48 hours to leave the kingdom.
This is the real story. King Salman is unhinged and going completely rogue, unresponsive to appeals from his allies for more temperate behavior. Attacking Yemen, supporting ISIS, supplying the money and men for 9/11/01 was bad enough, but now fanning the flames of sectarian war is overt madness.
 
Sudan and Bahrain have also broken all political ties with Iran, demanding that the diplomats leave the countries ASAP.

Time to lock every border in the South of Europe, because I can see the poop hitting the Sunni and Shiite fans really quick.

Dumbasses.
 
Sudan and Bahrain have also broken all political ties with Iran, demanding that the diplomats leave the countries ASAP.

Time to lock every border in the South of Europe, because I can see the poop hitting the Sunni and Shiite fans really quick.

Dumbasses.
Looks like you guys need a EuroTrump:sly:
 
Funny how the US backed the civil war in Syria because its government had "terrible human rights record", but Saudi Arabia has, of course, much better, so there's no need to do so. (I'm not saying there must be another "civil war for democracy", though...)
True that, a history of relations between nations is also the proof of biases towards certain governments.

Curiously enough I was investigating what was the criticism that Al-Nimr was doing about the Saudi Government ...

http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/01/economist-explains-0
http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2016/01/economist-explains-0
Turns out he was mostly democratic, and was advocating for a democratic a popular push in that region, hence the criticism against the Crown, he was prosecuted for being critic of the government, and there was more segments of the populace that were following him, his influence was too great for the Kingdom so they decided to kill him in the bases of rebellion, which in itself was kind of the whole point, rebel against the unjust government in the area.

Saudi Government ****ed up, ****ed up so bad that it will fuel increase violence in Yemen, because according to the US that is not important, even though they are in a civil war similar to the one on Syria, only difference is that the Saudi government is actively invading that nation (with one faction backed up by Saudis while the other is classified as terrorists).


If war were to broke out between Saudi Arabia and Iran, the first proxy war that would become more severe would be Yemen, and it would be terribly stupid for the US government to intervene in that affair, so they better stay out of it, otherwise they will give reasons to ISIS to increase their attacks (and coincidentally enough there is also an Al-Qaeda front founded and funded by Saudis as well).
 
If war were to broke out between Saudi Arabia and Iran, the first proxy war that would become more severe would be Yemen, and it would be terribly stupid for the US government to intervene in that affair, so they better stay out of it, otherwise they will give reasons to ISIS to increase their attacks (and coincidentally enough there is also an Al-Qaeda front founded and funded by Saudis as well).

Although they have not fully condemned the burning of the Saudi embassy, I don't think Iran really wants war with Saudi Arabia. But the situation is in great danger of escalation as the Saudis may be increasingly emboldened as they feel increasingly threatened by their enemies and abandoned by the US. War may not be limited to escalations by proxies. I would look very carefully at the Straits of Hormuz and imagine how easy they'd be to block and cut the Sauds off from vital income.
 
Man King Abdullah took the throne far too late. Now this yahoo is going around being an asshole.

@Dotini, I'm sure Uncle Sam will provide tankers with full Naval escort if it came to that.
 
Man King Abdullah took the throne far too late. Now this yahoo is going around being an asshole.

@Dotini, I'm sure Uncle Sam will provide tankers with full Naval escort if it came to that.

But I'm not so sure. We want to support Iran and it's nuclear deal, and we want to increase the price of oil to save our fracking and green energy initiatives. The closure of the Straits of Hormuz might be in our best interests, as we stand aside from a Sunni/Shia sectarian war.
 
But I'm not so sure. We want to support Iran and it's nuclear deal, and we want to increase the price of oil to save our fracking and green energy initiatives. The closure of the Straits of Hormuz might be in our best interests, as we stand aside from a Sunni/Shia sectarian war.

Honestly at this point, Iran and Saudi are too far down this rabbit hole of this Sunni/Shiite/Arab/Persian rivalry and hate.
 
I'm starting to believe these idiots are unknowingly practicing the religion of the devil. Look at it; most of them are thugs, rapists, pedophiles and murderers. Their 'religion' gives them carte blanche as long as they practice their evil deeds on 'non believers'.
SSIS (Satanic State of Iraq and Syria) seems much more accurate regarding them...

They are a terrorist organisation which seems to mainly kill Muslims. If you follow the Qur'an you will be killed but if you swear allegiance to them and commit all major sins in Islam they will accept you. No wonder SSIS have managed to get probably millions of Muslims fleeing Syria.
 
Although they have not fully condemned the burning of the Saudi embassy, I don't think Iran really wants war with Saudi Arabia. But the situation is in great danger of escalation as the Saudis may be increasingly emboldened as they feel increasingly threatened by their enemies and abandoned by the US. War may not be limited to escalations by proxies. I would look very carefully at the Straits of Hormuz and imagine how easy they'd be to block and cut the Sauds off from vital income.

I'm really interested to see how the relations between US and Saudi Arabia will go from here. The RSAF (Royal Saudi Air Force) for example is mostly US and a bit European, the Saudis lean heavily on western support.
 
At least 47 are feared dead in a truck bomb attack on a police training centre in Zliten, in western Libya, about 60km away from Misrata. BBC
 
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At least 47 are feared dead in a truck bomb attack on a police training centre in Zliten, in western Libya, about 60km away from Misrata. BBC
And they tried shooting at a bus and hotel in Egypt, luckily no casualties:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-egypt-tourists-violence-idUSKBN0UL10D20160107

And of course the fruitcake that got shot in Paris trying to stab police officers:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-france-shooting-idUSKBN0UL1A620160107

They are on a roll again today...
 

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We are long overdue for a decent nation on nation war. The current insurgency squabbling has been fun but we need epic battles.

Iran vs Saudi Arabia.

Let's see how long the West can stay out of something like that!
 
Ironically most countries, even the UN, sided with Iran at this point, recalling the Execution of said Syia Imam as "wrong move".

Can anyone explain? Without bias or anything?
 
Can anyone explain? Without bias or anything?
It's weird ... but basically imagine if a German bishop was killed in Jerusalem just because he is a Bishop and because he happened to be there, in the holiest place in Christianity.

It's kind of like the same thing, Mecca is considered the birthplace of Islam, problem is that is on Sunni-controlled Saudi Arabia, there is a huge rivalry between Shias and Sunnis, but they are held together (more or less) by a common believe in both Allah and Islam.

Problem is that a bishop from the Shia community got killed (or executed, depending on which side you take) just because he was criticizing the Sunni-led government, he was taking that political role but the critical part is that he was a Cleric, and killing a cleric in the Islamic world (specially in countries where Islam is the official religion) is kind of like a big deal, like ... A bishop executing another bishop because of political rivalry, it comes down to that in the most basic of the concepts.

People say Al-Nimr was a terrorist and potentially incite ISIS in Saudi Arabia, which is laughable when you consider that ISIS is Sunni, when Al Nimr and Iranian government is Shia, so there is that too.



The UN believes that people from different religions (or in this case Sunni-Shia shared territories) should be able to live within the same area, something as sensitive as Mecca requires a shared (or at least recognized) co-existence between Shia and Sunni, if Sunni oppress the Shia (or reversal in the "alleged" oppression from the Syrian government towards the Sunni population) then a sectarian conflict is created. Also, the Quran mandates that all people should visit Mecca once in their lives, meaning that a Shia-community member should be able to travel there without an existing threat, which the Saudi government just created (or they are defending their interests, again, depending in which side you are on).
 
Ironically most countries, even the UN, sided with Iran at this point, recalling the Execution of said Syia Imam as "wrong move".

Can anyone explain? Without bias or anything?

Saudi Arabia uses the death penalty for everything. Terrorism, parking tickets and Facebook rants.

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The West is not fond of terrorism or parking violations, but terribly fond of Facebook rants. And is becoming much less fond of Saudi Arabia.

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Only Rand Paul, so far, of the "Presidentiables" has called out the Kingdom for its actions. The other Republicans are throwing their support behind the Kingdom. The Democrats are critical but cautious. In the minds of many US politicians, having a rich, powerful, stable ally in the Middle East is worth more than some silly abstractions like "human rights" and "democracy".

Whether you believe the death penalty should be applied to political dissidents or not, killing a Shia Cleric whose only provable crime is speaking out against the Saudi government (and encouraging non-violent dissent) is an absolutely bat-guano insane thing to do in the current political climate.

But given how far the Kingdom seems willing to let the price of oil sink, and how they're putting a huge economic squeeze on Iran, Russia and America tby flooding the market with cheap Saudi oil... I don't find anything they do surprising anymore.
 
Mother of ISIS member asks him to leave the organisation. He murders her. BBC.

In other news, Liverpool city centre is partly cordoned off as police negotiate with a man in the Silkhouse Courts who claims to be carrying a bomb, motive unknown. I'll delete this reference if not ISIS related.
 
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