Thrustmaster T-GT Wheel Thread

[RaceFuchs]

I own the TGT since April. Moved on from a G29, too. It is quite the difference and im very happy with my decision.

TDFB isnt that special to be honest. Its nice to have but i prefer the FFB features of Raceroom where you can feel feedback even when shifting. With strong FFB you will feel all kinds of vibrations through your rig or wheel stand, which feels more intense then the TDFB. I never felt that with the G29 though, it lacks the power/force needed.

 

[Whitestar]

Sorry if it's obvious, but what is "TDFB"?

 

[RaceFuchs]

Sorry if it's obvious, but what is "TDFB"?

A special feature that only works in GT Sport. You feel more vibrations through the wheel (road surface, engine etc) Technically, this is achieved by a subwoofer at the back of the wheel base.

 

[s15specr]

I have a question about the transducer:

Do things like suspension stiffness, ride height and car weight affect how much it resonates after clipping a curb or even just driving over the track surface? and can anyone with a playseat challenge describe how much vibration you get through the entire setup?

 

[LeGeNd-1]

I have a question about the transducer:

Do things like suspension stiffness, ride height and car weight affect how much it resonates after clipping a curb or even just driving over the track surface? and can anyone with a playseat challenge describe how much vibration you get through the entire setup?

No, it's just a constant rumble completely independent of what's happening to the car. It's a canned effect basically and a poor substitute for the proper road feel of laser scanned tracks that GT Sport lacks.

 

[RaceFuchs]

I have a question about the transducer:

Do things like suspension stiffness, ride height and car weight affect how much it resonates after clipping a curb or even just driving over the track surface? and can anyone with a playseat challenge describe how much vibration you get through the entire setup?

I dont know if this kind of data is there or not, but you wont notice it while driving. TDFB is quite subtle. Not much going on here.

That being said, i always play with TDFB when firing up GT Sport. It isnt much but... its something.

 

[s15specr]

Okay thank guys, been researching and have heard a few folk say its a gimmick pretty much, hear that many like it too though.

Im wanting to move from a DS4 to a wheel not for better lap times but simply for the experience and immersion it will bring, im really into my drifting and ive been reading that the FFB on the T-GT feels more like general resistance whereas the Fanatec CSL Elite has more detail in it, i want dynamics rather than static sensations / feedback.

Money is of course a factor though, i can get the T-GT including the TH8A shifter for £575 delivered, the Fanatec on the other hand including the pedels will be £700, and id still be after the shifter and handbrake...

Hmm decisions...


EDIT: The CSL Elite Pro PS4 Package is €700 (£589) not £700, so a similar price though that doesn't include a free £140~ shifter from Box.co.uk like the T-GT i ordered, so still works out cheaper.

Don't want to be causing disinfomation

 

[RaceFuchs]

Okay thank guys, been researching and have heard a few folk say its a gimmick pretty much, hear that many like it too though.

Im wanting to move from a DS4 to a wheel not for better lap times but simply for the experience and immersion it will bring, im really into my drifting and ive been reading that the FFB on the T-GT feels more like general resistance whereas the Fanatec CSL Elite has more detail in it, i want dynamics rather than static sensations / feedback.

Money is of course a factor though, i can get the T-GT including the TH8A shifter for £575 delivered, the Fanatec on the other hand including the pedels will be £700, and id still be after the shifter and clutch...

Hmm decisions...

Yeah, good decision getting a wheel. Its so much more fun, authentic and immersive. Simracing wont be the same once you got a wheel.

Personally, i think a Fanatec might be a bit expensive for the very first wheel... if youre willing to pay that kind of money, youre getting the best brand, of course. I can absolutley recommend the TGT, but i never owned Fanatec. Oh, and i dont do drifting.

 

[s15specr]

Thanks man looking forward to it, just ordered the T-GT with free TH8A, TSS handbrake, and a Playseat Challenge, stopped overthinking and started acting haha , and yeah mate this is pretty much my first proper wheel setup after all (used a DFGT on GT5 for a bit, clamped to an ironing board sitting on an office chair with wheels lol) always gives me room to improve my setup in the future.

Ill just try it out and see how i get on with it, im probably gonna be buying a mod for the sequential mode of the TH8A and maybe for the gated shifting and brake too for a more tactile experience.

 

[s15specr]

So my T-GT arrived today and ive mounted it to my Playseat Challenge and i thought id share some of my intial reactions, from a ds4 user switching over to wheel.


Unboxing the wheel first thing i thought was jheez that really is a small rim, ive been aware from reviews that this is a small wheel but after looking at videos and pictures of it for the last week everything about it seemed tiny in person.

The buttons are all of good quality, and the rim has a nice feeling to it in hands. I also received a TH8a shifter and TSS handbrake too but cant properly use them as my mounts have not arrived yet, but these are very solid too, impressed.

After all my research on these forums the biggest complaint of this set is the pedals, but as soon as i held them and pushed down on the pedals there seem to be of satisfying quality to me, of course of im a noob with wheels and dont have much to compare them too, but feel much much better than my old DFGT pedals, i actually like the brake with no cone mod but i have some squash balls on the way .

So ive spent a couple of hours on gt sport with it so far, and tried to drive with the clutch and shifter, and tried some slides... and lets just say it hasnt gone too smooth lol , hard pill to swallow going from being a semi legit drifter to this. Also when ive been trying to correct slides my hand as been knocking the brake balance dial adjusting it, rather annoying

I have been crusing around tokyo with a stock Audi R8 and Nissan GT-R with the paddle shifters and found this rather easy to drive, really got an appreication for the Audi R8 which id never really gave much thought to, the stock GT-R was also nice to drive, more of a handful than the Audi but more playful and rewarding imo. When driving these cars i could really just focus on the tv screen and the size of the wheel just got lost in it really, just felt really nice with the slippery leather, felt like i was actually driving a luxury car.

The force feedback feels smooth to me, and can barely feel the transducer resonator thingymabob mechanism.


So yeah been enjoying it, so much more fun than controller even just crusing around in a stock sports car at slowish speeds, looking forward to my handbrake and shifter mounts coming


Cheers

 

[RaceFuchs]

After all my research on these forums the biggest complaint of this set is the pedals, but as soon as i held them and push down on the pedals there seem to be of satisfying quality to me, of cause of im a noob with wheels and dont have much to compare them too, but feel much much better than my old DFGT pedals, i actually like the brake with no cone mod but i have some squash balls on the way .

Not surprised. I think the pedals are fine. Nothing breathtaking, but not nearly as bad as some people make them look like. I havent upgraded yet because i dont feel the urge to do so. The pedals feel fine. And they are a bit bigger then the ones that come with the G29. My knee and legs were hurting after using the small Logitech pedals. Never had that problems since switching to Thrustmaster.

 

[s15specr]

Not surprised. I think the pedals are fine. Nothing breathtaking, but not nearly as bad as some people make them look like. I havent upgraded yet because i dont feel the urge to do so. The pedals feel fine. And they are a bit bigger then the ones that come with the G29. My knee and legs were hurting after using the small Logitech pedals. Never had that problems since switching to Thrustmaster.

Do you use any mods on them like the rubber cone on the brake? i have not tried it yet but playing with just socks on the weight to it is nice, curious to see how the squash ball mod turns out though:

 

[RaceFuchs]

Nah, havent used the brake mod. Tried it once with GT Sport but the game didnt detect the braking properly. I also use a wheel stand pro and because the way the pedal unit is mounted to the wheel stand, i cant screw on the brake mod anymore.

 

[s15specr]

Nah, havent used the brake mod. Tried it once with GT Sport but the game didnt detect the braking properly. I also use a wheel stand pro and because the way the pedal unit is mounted to the wheel stand, i cant screw on the brake mod anymore.

Thats slightly worrying, ive been lead to believe that gt sport calibrate brakes simply by marking the furthest point it has been pushed as 100%, hope the squash ball works ive been looking forward to it, according to the reddit page i shared the maximum pedal travel was 90% of what it was

 

[RaceFuchs]

Thats slightly worrying, ive been lead to believe that gt sport calibrate brakes simply by marking the furthest point it has been pushed as 100%, hope the squash ball works ive been looking forward to it, according to the reddit page i shared the maximum pedal travel was 90% of what it was

Pretty sure i am the one to blame here, i forgot to recalibrate the brakes in GT Sport... IF thats possible.

 

[FPV MIC]

Interesting.... for those that would like to tone down the T-DFB in GT Sport. I personally don't have any issues with it as it blends in with my Buttkicker.

5. Options
　- A [Vibration Strength] setting has been added under the [Controller] > [Vibration Function] menu. This setting is supported on peripherals compatible with the vibration function, such as the DUALSHOCK®4 Wireless Controller, and the Thrustmaster® T-GT.

Now if we can just get a few more adjustments, like the understeer effect.

 

[RaceFuchs]

Interesting.... for those that would like to tone down the T-DFB in GT Sport. I personally don't have any issues with it as it blends in with my Buttkicker.

5. Options
　- A [Vibration Strength] setting has been added under the [Controller] > [Vibration Function] menu. This setting is supported on peripherals compatible with the vibration function, such as the DUALSHOCK®4 Wireless Controller, and the Thrustmaster® T-GT.

Now if we can just get a few more adjustments, like the understeer effect.

Would be more interesting to enhance it, honestly.

 

[FPV MIC]

Would be more interesting to enhance it, honestly.

It goes from 0 to 150 and 100 is the default so it may do, but I haven't tried it yet to see if 100 is the same as before.

 

[RaceFuchs]

It goes from 0 to 150 and 100 is the default so it may do, but I haven't tried it yet to see if 100 is the same as before.

I will give it a shot as soon as the new update arrives on my HDD...

 

[Fonzzo]

I received my TGT a couple of days ago. Super excited. I’m still waiting for my Trak Racer RS6, so I now mounted the wheel to a weak table just to test it.

I’m wondering though, is the transducer really working? I’ve tried the wheel with GTS, PC2 and AC. GTS doesn’t seem to feel any different than PC2 and AC? The wheel actually feels the best when playing AC...

I'm a bit worried the transducer might be broken? I’ve checked the firmware, it’s the latest version. And of course I’ve flipped the mode switch . I’ve also disconnected and connected the usb before starting other race games (as mentioned in the manual).

so my question is, is there a way to find out if the transducer is really working? Like a test or sth? In the firmware settings on the pc you can only test some FFB strength feelings (all working well). Perhaps there is a track / car that behaves obviously different with the transducer working?

Since I only played GTS and the other driving games only with my DS4 before, I don’t really have a way of comparison.

I’m also thinking it might be because of my current super simple setup, so possible vibrations of the transducer won’t be felt through the chassis. But the again, I guess my weak table must be shaking even more lol.

Any comments are much appreciated!

 

[FPV MIC]

I received my TGT a couple of days ago. Super excited. I’m still waiting for my Trak Racer RS6, so I now mounted the wheel to a weak table just to test it.

I’m wondering though, is the transducer really working? I’ve tried the wheel with GTS, PC2 and AC. GTS doesn’t seem to feel any different than PC2 and AC? The wheel actually feels the best when playing AC...

I'm a bit worried the transducer might be broken? I’ve checked the firmware, it’s the latest version. And of course I’ve flipped the mode switch . I’ve also disconnected and connected the usb before starting other race games (as mentioned in the manual).

so my question is, is there a way to find out if the transducer is really working? Like a test or sth? In the firmware settings on the pc you can only test some FFB strength feelings (all working well). Perhaps there is a track / car that behaves obviously different with the transducer working?

Since I only played GTS and the other driving games only with my DS4 before, I don’t really have a way of comparison.

I’m also thinking it might be because of my current super simple setup, so possible vibrations of the transducer won’t be felt through the chassis. But the again, I guess my weak table must be shaking even more lol.

Any comments are much appreciated!

Have you checked that vibration is turned on in GT Sport? Does your controller vibrate?

To check got to the GT logo (top left) > Options > Controllers > Vibration Function. Don't let the Controller name fool you, this also controls the T-GT transducer. You could also try turning up the Vibration Strength to 150.

 

[RaceFuchs]

I received my TGT a couple of days ago. Super excited. I’m still waiting for my Trak Racer RS6, so I now mounted the wheel to a weak table just to test it.

I’m wondering though, is the transducer really working? I’ve tried the wheel with GTS, PC2 and AC. GTS doesn’t seem to feel any different than PC2 and AC? The wheel actually feels the best when playing AC...

I'm a bit worried the transducer might be broken? I’ve checked the firmware, it’s the latest version. And of course I’ve flipped the mode switch . I’ve also disconnected and connected the usb before starting other race games (as mentioned in the manual).

so my question is, is there a way to find out if the transducer is really working? Like a test or sth? In the firmware settings on the pc you can only test some FFB strength feelings (all working well). Perhaps there is a track / car that behaves obviously different with the transducer working?

Since I only played GTS and the other driving games only with my DS4 before, I don’t really have a way of comparison.

I’m also thinking it might be because of my current super simple setup, so possible vibrations of the transducer won’t be felt through the chassis. But the again, I guess my weak table must be shaking even more lol.

Any comments are much appreciated!

Like already said, check the vibrations setting in GTS. Also make sure your wheek is in GT Mode when turning on your PS4. The console need to recognize your wheel as TGT in GT Mode. If it is in "Other" mode when you turn on the PS4, it will be treated like a TS500 (i think) and the TDFB wont work. Its easy to test TDFB vs No-TDF, just boot up your console and the game in GT mode vs. Other mode.

 

[Fonzzo]

Many thanks for your quick replies @RaceFuchs and @FPV MIC.

To check got to the GT logo (top left) > Options > Controllers > Vibration Function. Don't let the Controller name fool you, this also controls the T-GT transducer. You could also try turning up the Vibration Strength to 150.

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I tried this option already before thanks to this forum, setting the vibration to 150. I'm not sure if I feel too much difference doing that though.

Its easy to test TDFB vs No-TDF, just boot up your console and the game in GT mode vs. Other mode.

I did try this. Same car, same car settings, same track, etc. I guess I do feel a very small vibration when the GT mode is enabled. Although it might be a placebo lol? Because my mind thinks it's working? The thing is just, it's not very strong whatsoever, almost not noticeable I guess. Online I read that some people can feel an effect when switching gears. Or some people online want to lower the strength of the transducer because it's too extreme?

Even when I set the vibration at 150, I find the vibration rather super subtle, nothing too special? Or might it really be not working properly then?

 

[Krassi]

Many thanks for your quick replies @RaceFuchs and @FPV MIC.



I tried this option already before thanks to this forum, setting the vibration to 150. I'm not sure if I feel too much difference doing that though.



I did try this. Same car, same car settings, same track, etc. I guess I do feel a very small vibration when the GT mode is enabled. Although it might be a placebo lol? Because my mind thinks it's working? The thing is just, it's not very strong whatsoever, almost not noticeable I guess. Online I read that some people can feel an effect when switching gears. Or some people online what to lower the strength of the transducer because it's too extreme?

Even when I set the vibration at 150, I find the vibration rather super subtle, nothing too special? Or might it really be not working properly then?

Drive over curbs and put a hand behind the wheel...you can feel the vibration....in general is quite sensible between GT Mode with working transducer and on Other mode with not working...its not placibo!

 

[RaceFuchs]

I guess I do feel a very small vibration when the GT mode is enabled. Although it might be a placebo lol? Because my mind thinks it's working? The thing is just, it's not very strong whatsoever, almost not noticeable I guess. Online I read that some people can feel an effect when switching gears. Or some people online want to lower the strength of the transducer because it's too extreme?

Even when I set the vibration at 150, I find the vibration rather super subtle, nothing too special? Or might it really be not working properly then?

The effect is subtle. Yes, you can feel it but its not very strong. Different people have different perceptions of course. Honestly this technology isnt that special and some might exaggerate. Its nice to have but there are better things about this wheel, which feels absolutley incredible in Raceroom and ACC. No TDFB needed there.

 

[FPV MIC]

I did try this. Same car, same car settings, same track, etc. I guess I do feel a very small vibration when the GT mode is enabled. Although it might be a placebo lol? Because my mind thinks it's working? The thing is just, it's not very strong whatsoever, almost not noticeable I guess. Online I read that some people can feel an effect when switching gears. Or some people online want to lower the strength of the transducer because it's too extreme?

Even when I set the vibration at 150, I find the vibration rather super subtle, nothing too special? Or might it really be not working properly then?

I could feel gear changes at one point but I think this may have changed as I haven't noticed for a while. I'll check this later on today and edit my answer into this post.

The stiffness of peoples rigs also plays a big part in how strong the effect is for each individual. As you mentioned you're only using a temporary rig I'd wait until your new one arrives before you pass judgement, but as others have mentioned, it's not placebo but at the same time it's also not that special. I also run a Buttkicker transducer on my rig and that's far more effective.

 

[Fonzzo]

Many thanks again for all the quick reactions to my posts. Much appreciated!

Drive over curbs and put a hand behind the wheel...you can feel the vibration....in general is quite sensible between GT Mode with working transducer and on Other mode with not working...its not placibo!

You were right, thanks for the tip! There is a difference indeed. You can feel a subtle vibration when holding your hand on the transducer (if the GT mode is enabled). I'm glad to know the function is working at least, since I had no way of comparison, I was really rather worried.

I could feel gear changes at one point but I think this may have changed as I haven't noticed for a while. I'll check this later on today and edit my answer into this post.

The stiffness of peoples rigs also plays a big part in how strong the effect is for each individual. As you mentioned you're only using a temporary rig I'd wait until your new one arrives before you pass judgement, but as others have mentioned, it's not placebo but at the same time it's also not that special. I also run a Buttkicker transducer on my rig and that's far more effective.

I also suspect it's my current set-up, which is literarily a small folding table while I'm sitting on the floor lol. I can't use too much force when handling the wheel, because the table will move lol omg. However, this is currently the only way I can use it I had to find a way to test if everything was working fine of course. Once my Trak Racer RS6 seat has arrived and everything is installed properly, I'll send an update in this forum to describe any differences and experiences. Looking forward to it!

The effect is subtle. Yes, you can feel it but its not very strong. Different people have different perceptions of course. Honestly this technology isnt that special and some might exaggerate. Its nice to have but there are better things about this wheel, which feels absolutley incredible in Raceroom and ACC. No TDFB needed there.

You're right, the effect seems very subtle. Perhaps I was expecting a more extreme effect and that's why I thought it wasn't working properly. For example when playing AC on the PS4 with this wheel, there seems to be so much feedback from the road and car. When you're driving almost 300 km/h on a straight, you can feel the wheel/car struggling with every little bump in the road. Awesome feeling! In GTS it's all pretty smooth though when driving straight. As I mentioned above though, that might also be because of my current set-up.

So far, I love the wheel! I mostly play GTS, mainly because of the good multiplayer and I play the game since GT1 on the PS1. This is the first time I'm playing with a wheel and even on this below-average racing rig, I'm matching the lap times I set with a DS4, after just a couple of laps trying. But the whole experience of driving is just so much more enjoyable. Awesome!

Many tanks again, glad to know the transducer is working properly.

 

[Tadopemu]

Anyone know if the tgt is a little stronger ffb than tspc or is it identical?

 

[FPV MIC]

Anyone know if the tgt is a little stronger ffb than tspc or is it identical?

They're identical in ffb strength. Both have 40 watt brushless motors with 16-bit resolution (65,536 values). The main differences in the bases is that the T-GT is PS 4 compatible and has the transducer that only works in GT Sport.

 

[Tadopemu]

They're identical in ffb strength. Both have 40 watt brushless motors with 16-bit resolution (65,536 values). The main differences in the bases is that the T-GT is PS 4 compatible and has the transducer that only works in GT Sport.

how do you know there isn't another factor (gearing, software, coding, electronics etc) that could cause a FFB strength difference?
Just having the same motor and resolution is not enough to claim they are identical.
the fanatec csl elite and clubsport v2.5 have identical motors and electronics, yet those are over 2nm different in torque strength.