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If the BBC thinks that the statements about Mexicans were just playful banter, then why did it decide to edit them out for the BBC America broadcast?
 
dautolover
If the BBC thinks that the statements about Mexicans were just playful banter, then why did it decide to edit them out for the BBC America broadcast?
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It would have offended a lot more people in the US then in the UK. Plus isn't the news always edited on the US program? I don't know I don't watch it.
 
Joey D
It would have offended a lot more people in the US then in the UK. Plus isn't the news always edited on the US program? I don't know I don't watch it.
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Yeah, but it's just a joke... according to the BBC.

Of course things are edited out, but for time purposes. This part was deliberately edited out because they realized that the parts were offensive.
 
dautolover
Yeah, but it's just a joke... according to the BBC.

Of course things are edited out, but for time purposes. This part was deliberately edited out because they realized that the parts were offensive.
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It is just a joke, a mildly funny one before the whole of Mexico flipped out over it. Mexican food does look like refried sick with cheese on it...tasty, tasty, tasty refried sick though!

But why put the comment in a market where there is a large Mexican population? It just going to cause another flip out and BBC America actually depends on ad dollars to stay operational too unlike the BBC in the UK.
 
Joey D
It is just a joke, a mildly funny one before the whole of Mexico flipped out over it. Mexican food does look like refried sick with cheese on it...tasty, tasty, tasty refried sick though!

But why put the comment in a market where there is a large Mexican population? It just going to cause another flip out and BBC America actually depends on ad dollars to stay operational too unlike the BBC in the UK.
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Huge Mexican population? That's got to be 10% of the population.

I just can't understand the BBC's hypocrisy. You can't tell the people who complained about the comments (including me) that these guys were just joking and that it was harmless fun and then edit out the comments. Stick behind your product, BBC... Otherwise, acknowledge that the comments were offensive and offer a proper apology.
 
dautolover
Huge Mexican population? That's got to be 10% of the population.

I just can't understand the BBC's hypocrisy. You can't tell the people who complained about the comments (including me) that these guys were just joking and that it was harmless fun and then edit out the comments. Stick behind your product, BBC... Otherwise, acknowledge that the comments were offensive and offer a proper apology.
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That's 30,000,000 people and those are the ones here we know about. Per the 2001 UK census there's a little over 5,000 Mexicans living there. Even with a 100% growth rate in 10 years that's still a little over 10,000. Huge population difference there.

It's knowing your market and not pissing off your advertisers.

And I don't think they should offer an apology, I mean what that prove? It wouldn't be sincere and all they would be issuing it for would be to get everyone off their backs.
 
dautolover
Huge Mexican population? That's got to be 10% of the population.

I just can't understand the BBC's hypocrisy. You can't tell the people who complained about the comments (including me) that these guys were just joking and that it was harmless fun and then edit out the comments. Stick behind your product, BBC... Otherwise, acknowledge that the comments were offensive and offer a proper apology.
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We get the shortened versions over here when Top Gear is repeated on channels with ad breaks, and they always cut the news. So why assume this is any different?
 
Love all these people moaning, if you dont like it why are you watching just watch 5th Gear and stop trolling
 
I quite enjoyed that episode, the Zonda feature was good, as was the 325 challenge and SIARPC, news was a bit meh, but it often is.
 
That episode for me was a 100% 'MEH'. Not much really happened, it almost felt like a filler. It would have been much better if all the convertibles were different (like with an Audi and Merc from the same era). The Zonda had been covered by Fifth Gear yonks ago and the rest was pretty bland.

So far for me its gone like this...

EP1 - Excellent
EP2 - Terrible train wreck of racism
Ep3 - Excellent
Ep4 - MEH!

Robin.
 
The Zonda was also extensively covered in Clarkson's latest DVD and I believe Top Gear Magazine did a feature on it too (I can't remember as there a way to Zondas to keep up with). The car is awesome though, so at least see and hearing it wasn't a bore.
 
Culkin
Love all these people moaning, if you dont like it why are you watching just watch 5th Gear and stop trolling
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It's precisely because I watch that I complain. How bad do you think it feels that your favorite shows is capable of saying all those hurtful remarks?

And it's not just a joke... if it were, the BBC would expect the advertisers to know the type of humor they use, and just air the original comments.

I see it as someone talking smack behind your back.

It's sad that people need an incentive to not air these comments...
 
Well, the jokes are getting old. As soon as Jeremy said 'secret' I knew that he is about to tell the exact location of that Top Gear Technology Centre.
 
I thought the snowplough thing was going alright until they decided to crash it into stuff and add a no reason flamethrower onto it half way through the film. I don't know why they are trying to be so dramatic all the time, it isn't funny and it's painfully predictable.

Talking of ploughing though, SIARPC. :drool:
 
I remember when Jezza was reviewing the Smart Roadster and he was making the comparison with a running shoe. His point was that even though most people will only ever walk about the supermarket in it, it has to still be capable of serving it's designed purpose to pass muster.

That I think is the problem with the show. The reason it succeeded where old Top Gear was failing was the format of fun. But it still needs to be about cars, I still want the car geek in me satisfied as well as seeing the parody.
 
dautolover
if it were, the BBC would expect the advertisers to know the type of humor they use,
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The BBC doesn't have advertisers.

Wasn't that bad of an episode. I chuckled a few times and driving on the ice looked really perilous.
 
Jeremy diving into the snow to test it's depth, only to find it wasn't deep at all... that made me laugh...


.. man catching on fire made me cringe

(M3 beating RS5 on wet track, that made me grin from ear to ear)

The problem with Top Gear is.. as I see it...

1) less plausible/more obviously scripted.. the presenters are becoming characters and the program is becoming a sitcom.
2) 'cinematography' & Production values seem to have gone down hill.. a couple of seasons ago some of the filming was really good, now it seems a lot less 'special'..

I think ultimately though, they can only come up with new stuff for so long, and maybe it's time for them to re-invent the show again.
 
Was a decent episode to end the season, was nice to see the Cool Wall finally return but the DB9 mini fridge has gone which is sacrilege! I agree with all those new supermini's being sub zero apart from the Fiat 500 which, although is a good car, is only sub zero if your a teenage girl!

The Jag XJ is a nice piece of kit and the interior is striking but I agree that the exterior is a let down, the rear looks like a bus. I don't know why people like Merc don't take Jag's lead in the all Alu dept.

The moon buggy was so clearly one of those marketing mock ups and it not the 'actual' test buggy. The ones they give the press to mess around with. Pity all of it will probably never become a reality.

Jeremy having 'Sherry Sex' with that woman was the highlight of the evening :lol:

Robin.
 
Good episode,at least they are getting back to some old fashion test,is a shame that they spend the budged on just 6 episodes but top gear is load with Unnecessary stuff since the X3 driving test,they should put more attention into driving test than Clarkson being stupid,something that gets silly sometimes.

And, I don't have to reconfigure proxy settings for a while,maybe again in June or in march for the F1 coverage.
 
Hey guys thought I'd join in this thread, I 🤬 love TG!

I really enjoyed tonights episode, the sherry sex was indeed hilarious, but I can't believe I forgot the DB9 Mini fridge.. you're right, its sacrilege that it's gone although I think they probably just forgot, as I had. Would reallyhave liked to see the F40's lap time, perhaps it's (and the 959's) time wasn't respectful (read: good) enough so they decided to fake the errors, they are Richard and Jeremy's favourite cars afterall.

LOVE the new moon buggy, we need to go back there man...
 
megastrive
Would reallyhave liked to see the F40's lap time, perhaps it's (and the 959's) time wasn't respectful (read: good) enough so they decided to fake the errors, they are Richard and Jeremy's favourite cars afterall.
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Or the owners wouldn't let them.
 

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