US and Iran Make Breakthrough Nuclear Deal

[F1jocker12]

I didn't forget that..nor this:

Canadian Women sues Iran for training, arming and financing the Hamas terrorists who attacked her in 1997, causing severe injuries.

Iran to forfeit $7M in Canadian assets for supporting terrorism.

2014 Canadian Report on the Terrorism Threat To Canada lists Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism and Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization

Your Honour, I rest my case.

Johnny, IDF supposed to be UN forces allies, and the UN peace forces soldiers are getting killed by them on purpose.


Iran openly recognizes his aversion towards western societies, and most of the Arab combatants in the area, openly admit how they want to eliminate, in a form or another, western elements (most of the time for covering Israels crimes). So, do not be surprised by the info provided by those stories or documents under your links.


The BIG problem occurs when your supposedly allies in the area are targeting UN peace corps positions, despite UN commanders efforts to inform IDF how the bombardment is killing UN coalition soldiers.

IDF is surgically eliminating 3rd party witnesses, while pretending how friendly they are, and than Israeli government representatives, wont recognise the crimes.

You will say, yes... all the parties involved are doing horiffic things (which is the absolute truth), but Johnny, there is only one side pretending to be UN coalition friendly by killing its soldiers. And, like the Admin of GTP mentioned a while ago on a different thread, when there is no logic, there is no morality as well.

 

[squadops]

The IDF is not killing U.N. Peace Keepers on purpose.

 

[F1jocker12]

The IDF is not killing U.N. Peace Keepers on purpose.

Hmmmm... I guess it's sci-fi then

The paper published the testimony of another Spanish soldier, Sergeant Julio Xavier Garcia, who said that shells initially fell about 500 meters north of the UN post and then they "corrected the trajectory towards the position." Garcia added that he took cover along the watchtower "to clearly see it was a fixed shot” and that “falling projectiles were getting closer."

"The first projectiles hit behind the mosque, near Majidiye, and were slowly falling further to the right, closer and closer,” another witness, soldier Christian Martinez said, adding that the last two explosions were very close: “one fell behind the concrete wall of the parking and the second directly hit the main tower."

The Spanish newspaper also quoted a UN report which said that Israeli forces had warned at 11:39am local time that UN peacekeepers should remain in their positions and avoid going outside, without providing any further details.

According to the report, the Israeli army fired on the area at least 118 artillery shells, 90 mortar grenades and five projectiles between 11:48am and 1:43pm local time

IDF targeted UN peacekeepers in Lebanon – Spanish military report

 

[squadops]

It's not sci-fi, it's crap reporting.

I thought you read the U.N. reports on the subject, they should be self-explanatory.

 

[F1jocker12]

It's not sci-fi, it's crap reporting.

I thought you read the U.N. reports on the subject, they should be self-explanatory.

www.israelnationalnews.com

Israeli Source Acknowledges IDF Fire Killed Spanish UN Soldier


Leaked Report: Spanish Peacekeepers Accuse IDF of Targeting Them

Israeli security sources acknowledged on Tuesday that the death of a Spanish UN peacekeeper in Lebanon fighting in January was caused by Israeli fire.

Your story on this topic was published on February 17, 2015
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=50107#.VSTAIPnF-Sp

Have you checked the dates on these stories? You can simply Google "spanish peacekeeper killed by IDF" and get an image...

“We can’t say they made a mistake ... the rounds were getting nearer and nearer and eventually they hit it,” a UNIFIL source told The Daily Star.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/UN...-peacekeeper-in-Lebanon-was-deliberate-391688

So, why is IDF intentionally targeting UN peacekeepers posts and on purposely killing UNISIL soldiers?

 

[squadops]

So, why is IDF intentionally targeting UN peacekeepers posts and on purposely killing UNISIL soldiers?

They aren't. Everyone involved agrees IDF fire killed an UNISIL soldier in January of this year, it was not on purpose as you keep wanting it to be.

 

[F1jocker12]

They aren't. Everyone involved agrees IDF fire killed an UNISIL soldier in January of this year, it was not on purpose as you keep wanting it to be.

Listen to the spanish soldiers...

Another Spanish soldier, Sergeant Julio Xavier Garcia, echoed Sanchez, saying the shells initially fell about 500 metres (yards) north of the UN post and then they "corrected the trajectory towards the position."

A third soldier said fragmentation bombs were used in the attack and that the shelling finally appeared to target the main watch tower.

 

[squadops]

I already read all your links, I've also posted enough to refute your claim.

 

[Tornado]

It's hard to even know which thread this is anymore.

 

[Blitz24]

What does Israel "deliberately" bombing a UN base in Palestine have to do with the Iran nuclear deal?

How about, what are the repercussions if Iran chooses to violate the treaty they signed? Are there additional sanctions for the "break glass in emergency" situation?

 

[F1jocker12]

Everybody... Jon Stewart again

 

[Dennisch]

And?

 

[F1jocker12]

And?

Ohhh ... I didn't expect you to ask for more... Here we go

 

[Johnnypenso]

Ohhh ... I didn't expect you to ask for more... Here we go

Dude seriously, Jon Stewart?👎👎

http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/04/07/hezbollah-chief-expects-war-is-near-with-israel/
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah predicts a war is nearing between his terror organization and Israel.

“The nations in the region must prepare to make sacrifices in any future conflict with Israel,” Nasrallah said in an interview with the Syrian television station al-Ikhbariya on Monday.
Nasrallah also praised the nuclear framework deal between the world powers and Iran, saying that the agreement will lead to a “stronger and wealthier Iran in the coming phase (that) will be able to stand by its allies [Hezbollah], and especially the Palestinian resistance [Hamas], more than at any other time in history.”

It was reported on Sunday that Iran has transferred tens of millions of dollars to Hamas to help rebuild its network of tunnels destroyed by Israel during last summer’s Gaza war as well as help to replenish its stockpiles of missiles, the Sunday Telegraphreported.

I wonder if that expert on Middle East relations, Jon Stewart, will have anything to say about that.

 

[Blitz24]

Dude seriously, Jon Stewart?👎👎

http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/04/07/hezbollah-chief-expects-war-is-near-with-israel/
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah predicts a war is nearing between his terror organization and Israel.



I wonder if that expert on Middle East relations, Jon Stewart, will have anything to say about that.

And the sad thing is that the US either doesn't realize that Iran will act by proxies to dismantle the Middle East or doesn't care that an ally could end up being forced to go to war if Iran's proxies attempt to instigate a fight.

Israel is in a catch-22. Either it fights off terrorists and gets accused of being hostile or it ignores it, has it's civilians killed and nobody cares. The UN doesn't side with Israel, nor does the US anymore if this happens and they see it as a good thing because Iran cannot "develop nuclear weapons". If Iran doesn't care to keep peace and not push elsewhere then why do we hold other countries to different standards?

 

[F1jocker12]

How about, what are the repercussions if Iran chooses to violate the treaty they signed? Are there additional sanctions for the "break glass in emergency" situation?

Mordechai Vanunu - Under the control of the IAEA, Iran does not pose any threat. Western experts perfectly know the nature of the Iranian nuclear program, contrary to Israel, which does not let anyone enter its nuclear facilities. That is why Iran decided to take a step forward and to tell the world: “You can not demand more transparency from us while closing your eyes to what is happening in Israel!” The Arabs have known for 40 years that Israel has atomic bombs and nobody does anything about it. As long as the world continues to ignore Israel’s atomic weapons, they will not have the moral authority to say anything about Iran. If the world is really concerned, if they want to put an end to nuclear proliferation, then they have to start from the beginning, that is, Israel!

Mr. Vanunu is the whistleblower who revealed details about Israel’s nuclear program. He was imprisoned for 18 years (11 in solitary confinement) and yes, he is a Jew. Former IDF soldier converted Christian Jew.

He also says how

We have no reason to criticize Iran. Before we do anything against any country we have to take care of the Israeli case. If anyone wants to do anything against Iran, first he has to deal with Israel. The world cannot ignore what Israel has been doing over the past 40 years… The United States should make Israel sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. It is about time that Europe acknowledges that Israel has nuclear weapons. The Arab world should be very concerned about the fact that the entire world is criticizing Iran, which does not have nuclear weapons, while ignoring Israel.

From http://www.voltairenet.org/article129838.html

You should listen to pres. Obama if you want to know specifically what is going to happen in case Iran violates the treaty. They wont.

@Johnnypenso

People are asking why are we derailing from the topic (and I understand the general concern while I apologize again on my part), so they do not like me giving you an answer here and encouraging the derail.

Jon Stewart? He is a lot smarter than us and therefore he keeps us on topic. It might hurt a little if you are convinced Iran could be a nuclear threat and you see Jon (another Jew) making fun of that idea. He also knows what is and how to create, humor. You can learn a little.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Mr. Vanunu is the whistleblower who revealed details about Israel’s nuclear program. He was imprisoned for 18 years (11 in solitary confinement) and yes, he is a Jew. Former IDF soldier converted Christian Jew.

He also says how


From http://www.voltairenet.org/article129838.html

You should listen to pres. Obama if you want to know specifically what is going to happen in case Iran violates the treaty. They wont.

@Johnnypenso

People are asking why are we derailing from the topic (and I understand the general concern while I apologize again on my part), so they do not like me giving you an answer here and encourageing the derail.

Jon Stewart? He is a lot smarter than us and therefore he keeps us on topic. It might hurt a little if you are convinced Iran could be a nuclear threat and you see Jon (another Jew) making fun of that idea. He also knows what is and how to create, humor. You can learn a little.

So you've never answered a question directly ever, but now you can't answer because people are concerned you're derailing the topic?

 

[Johnnypenso]

All kinds of reports leaking out that Iran has a slightly different interpretation of the agreement.
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/...ff-limits-to-inspectors/#.VSVttpPvXfM.twitter

"Iranian Minister of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics Brigadier General Hossein Dehqan has rejected reports on inspection of the country’s military facilities being included in the recent deal achieved by Iran and the world powers (P5+1) in Switzerland’s Lausanne on April 2, Fars news agency reported on April 8. According to Fars, commenting on “domestic media highlighting such baseless claims by foreign media about the Lausanne agreement,” Dehqan said, “Such actions do not serve national interests, but in fact set the ground for enemy’s excessive demands… The Supreme Leader’s, the government’s approach and the determination of the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear negotiating team together do not allow the other party to impose anything on the Iranian nation.” Referring to “false claims by foreign media outlets such as the Guardian newspaper” on inspection of the country’s military facilities being a part of the Lausanne statement, Dehqan stressed: “There is no such agreement. Basically, inspection of military facilities is a red line and no inspection of any kind from such facilities would be accepted.”

Original Arabic text here: http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13940119001292

Doesn't translate well with Google but this comes up:
Defense Minister referred to the false claims of the foreign media to inspect military center of Lausanne is part of the agreement, said such an agreement has been made and that the military component of the red tape and no visit to the centers will be accepted.

 

[Dennisch]

So, in a couple of months all of Iran's nuclear facilities will be surrounded by military installations.

 

[F1jocker12]

حسین دهقان وزیر دفاع و پشتیبانی نیروهای مسلح با اشاره به بزرگ نمایی و برجسته سازی ادعاهای واهی رسانه‌های بیگانه درباره توافق لوزان توسط برخی از جراید داخلی، گفت: این گونه اقدامات نه تنها خدمت به منافع ملی به

Original Arabic text here

That is persian, Johnny... Iranians are persians, not arabs. They do not like arabs.

 

[Johnnypenso]

حسین دهقان وزیر دفاع و پشتیبانی نیروهای مسلح با اشاره به بزرگ نمایی و برجسته سازی ادعاهای واهی رسانه‌های بیگانه درباره توافق لوزان توسط برخی از جراید داخلی، گفت: این گونه اقدامات نه تنها خدمت به منافع ملی به

That is persian, Johnny... Iranians are persians, not arabs. They do not like arabs.

Nothing to say about the content, just a correction on the origin of the text

 

[Blitz24]

All kinds of reports leaking out that Iran has a slightly different interpretation of the agreement.
https://www.commentarymagazine.com/...ff-limits-to-inspectors/#.VSVttpPvXfM.twitter

"Iranian Minister of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics Brigadier General Hossein Dehqan has rejected reports on inspection of the country’s military facilities being included in the recent deal achieved by Iran and the world powers (P5+1) in Switzerland’s Lausanne on April 2, Fars news agency reported on April 8. According to Fars, commenting on “domestic media highlighting such baseless claims by foreign media about the Lausanne agreement,” Dehqan said, “Such actions do not serve national interests, but in fact set the ground for enemy’s excessive demands… The Supreme Leader’s, the government’s approach and the determination of the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear negotiating team together do not allow the other party to impose anything on the Iranian nation.” Referring to “false claims by foreign media outlets such as the Guardian newspaper” on inspection of the country’s military facilities being a part of the Lausanne statement, Dehqan stressed: “There is no such agreement. Basically, inspection of military facilities is a red line and no inspection of any kind from such facilities would be accepted.”

Original Arabic text here: http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13940119001292

Doesn't translate well with Google but this comes up:
Defense Minister referred to the false claims of the foreign media to inspect military center of Lausanne is part of the agreement, said such an agreement has been made and that the military component of the red tape and no visit to the centers will be accepted.

If the US decides to go through with this then Obama will essentially be handing over Israel's fate to the whims of the mullahs in Iran. There is no excuses as to why the statement in bold should EVER be overlooked by the Obama or any of the US Government members.

 

[F1jocker12]

The White House just tweeted about the deal....

 

[Johnnypenso]

The White House just tweeted about the deal....

Do you have a link so I can verify that it's not a joke?

EDIT: It's not a joke. Way to rise above Obama...very classy:tdown:

 

[squadops]

It's good to know our intelligence is not mocked.

Did they tweet anything about Iran's accelerated support of terror groups since the deal talks started? It's only going to grow more now. Obama is pressing everyone's hand imo and I'm thinking we'll be seeing the big boys back in the region soon.

 

[F1jocker12]

CIA Director steps in .....

From http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/04/cia-director-war-hawk-iran-deal-poses-danger-america.html

 

[squadops]

From the man who claimed U.S. drone attacks avoid civilian casualties, he's in Obama's pocket, I'd be surprised if he said anything different. Very surprised.

 

[Johnnypenso]

From the man who claimed U.S. drone attacks avoid civilian casualties, he's in Obama's pocket, I'd be surprised if he said anything different. Very surprised.

I typed that tweet into Google Translate and this came out.

The guy who signs my paycheques and has control over my advancement in the government ranks said this is a good deal and I agree completely. Anyone who disagrees with my boss is wrong.

/sarcasm

 

[Sanji Himura]

Iran's Revolutionary Guard would ban any nuclear inspectors from inspecting any of Iran's sites:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...rd-leader-just-promised-to-shoot-negotiators/

 

[F1jocker12]

Iran's Revolutionary Guard would ban any nuclear inspectors from inspecting any of Iran's sites:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...rd-leader-just-promised-to-shoot-negotiators/

You do not read the news right. How do you say

ban any nuclear inspectors from inspecting any of Iran's sites

when the first paragraph states:

International nuclear inspectors will be barred from all Iranian military sites under any deal with world powers, a senior commander in the Revolutionary Guard said Sunday, setting up a possible standoff as negotiators try to reach a final deal.

?
There is a big difference between nuclear development sites, and military sites.