VCRC vintage & low power :: Sunday 3pm GMT / 10am US EST

Had a good time and great racing.
:cheers: to all.

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BrandonW77
Full version?
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Do you think that's wise?

I don't know the names of the versions... :nervous: And I'm kind of still surprised by them all. :lol:


Is there somewhere on the forum there's a list of all the GT6 tracks & their variations + distance lengths?
I've looked for that, but I figure I may have missed it. (I'm still having a heck of a time adjusting to the new forum format. :dopey:)
 
Sure thing John. 👍



Silverstone FULL version it is. :D
For some reason I thought it was longer.

I think the shorter versions are the ones with that blind hard left turn? You know where on the full version you'd go off straight to the right-ish. But there are cones, and you can't see the left until you're on it because it's up a slight incline.
Of course I've been racing those silverstones mostly in the slow FWDs in shuffle so far. So that's probably why that left seems so awful. :lol: It wasn't just me going off into the cones grass & whatever... it's been everyone in the understeery VW Golf.



Oh, and anyone want to report a clean lap. (Doesn't have to be a super hot lap, just one where you haven't gone off in the sand, or spun in a corner. I probably won't get an example of a "clean" lap until halfway through the race Sunday. :lol:)
 
watermelonpunch
I think the shorter versions are the ones with that blind hard left turn? You know where on the full version you'd go off straight to the right-ish. But there are cones, and you can't see the left until you're on it because it's up a slight incline.
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That's exactly why I said I'd prefer the full version. The International and National versions both have some kind of blind, tight turns and I (presuming others as well) haven't run the tracks enough to be comfortable with those turns in racing conditions yet. It's a long race though so the full version is more fitting. 👍

I can run some laps this evening but it won't be until later, 7 or 8pm.
 
I think I was confusing the brands hatch blind left turn on the shortened version. Brands hatch shortened version has a blind left turn where it goes up an incline into a hard blind left - where the full version sweeps off to a gentle S toward the right - but on the shortened version there's cones there.

But the Silverstone has 2 of them... 1 is not really blind because no incline/decline, but still confusing. On one of the shorter Silverstones where it goes down a slight decline to the right, it's totally blind until you're on top of it, and tons of people go off the road on the left there, and it's easy to push out on another car if you're caught unawares.

I did that to RDAardvark in the plymouth ghia sprint race there - I had the inside line, he had the outside & lead, and he wound up going a bit wide, nearly going off track, because maybe he didn't realize which way, and I definitely didn't, and was braking too late, so there he'd managed to make a save, only to have me diving in & pushing him back out by mistake. Worse, I think I did it 2 laps in a row (maybe to 2 different drivers). :guilty:

Naptown25rs
Just ran a solid 10 laps, 2:43.9XX was my fastest.
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Thanks.
20 laps SHOULD do it.
 
Thanks for posting that. 👍

I hit like as thank you... not as "I'm liking the fact I came in last". :lol: :sly: :lol:

ha ha

I ran out of fuel. :guilty:
I tried it as an econ challenge, and epic fail. :lol:

But that's what I like about the whole pit strategy. I won one race some months ago because my strategy worked. Not this time!

I don't know if it could have worked. But it's possible if I knew the track better, I could've saved some fuel and gained a position or 2. But that's about it.
I think Silverstone is my new Indy Road Course. I just can't get comfortable. The flatness of the terrain really throws me off. :boggled: I just wonder if it has something to do with my eyesight. Or does everyone have this problem with tracks with flat terrain?

Well, at least I wasn't the only one who thought to skip pitting.
Jackargent benefited from me & John skipping the pit.
John was faster than me overall though.
Jack went into the pit late, but it was the right decision obviously. :)

Well done jack!

And good win Johnnypenso.
 
Thanks again @watermelonpunch, love driving these cars 👍

I usually have trouble with flat terrain tracks, takes me a long time to find my spots. Unless of course there are brake markers beside, not on the track ;) Makes it a little easier.

I think with this track the pit time is much less than other tracks. At least that's my recollection from the F1 races held here. If I remember correctly, if two cars are chasing each other and one pits, the pitting car crosses the finish line before the one who didn't pit. Would make the econ challenge harder.
 
Much better race for me this time around. It was around Lap 8 when I had half a tank of petrol left that I worked out my fuel consumption strategy (16 laps to empty a tank) and put in enough fuel for me to push to the end. I so nearly caught Johnnypenso at the end after I took 30 litres and he only took 23.

Next week needs to be good as it'll be my birthday special.
 
BrandonW77
I occasionally get lost at Silverstone because it all looks so similar, I'll forget if I have a left hander or right hander coming up at the end of the straight or which "main" straight I'm on. :dunce:
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Yes, I had that problem it seemed the ENTIRE race. I would wind up lining up the wrong side every single time I was heading into that gentle left at the end of the straight. I think because I knew the track goes around to the right... I just had a hard time accepting there was a swoop to the left first.

Then I lost sight of any cars ahead of me for awhile, and so I started thinking there was a left turn where it's a right turn at the end of the straight, because I could no longer see John Wells' car in front of me veering to the right up ahead (which was a convenient indication of the straight I was on for several laps). So I'd be on the wrong side again set up totally bad for the turn.

I think someone was lapping me there too, or maybe it was Jackargent passing me after I'd passed him in the pit, and likely thought I was just moving aside, when in reality, I thought I was holding the racing line & was prepared to take the outside line for the left turn (which was really a right turn :boggled:), if they caught up to me by the turning point. :lol:
Then it was too late so I had to take the inside line for the right turn & let them go round on the left outside. And I saw them go wide in my rearview & I couldn't tell whether they'd just taken the turn late & accidentally got hung up wide slipping. Or if maybe they were simply giving me a wide berth in the rain.

Several times I wound up going WAY off track on that tight-ish spoon turn. I was doing that occasionally up til even the last laps of the race. At one point Jack & John in front of me got hung up in that area, and I had a real shot of catching up & getting a draft, only to blow it by going off road there.

I thought it would get better, as it usually does. In a long race, even if I'm not very familiar with the track, I usually reach a point where the lightbulb goes on, and I don't have to think so hard about the directions.
But with this, it was even worse than that not happening. Not only lap after lap getting confused about where I was...
But also having off road excursions right up to my last lap! :dunce:

It certainly wasn't the car. The car handled beautifully.

Although, maybe if I was higher up, I could've seen more of the flat terrain. :lol:
Like maybe a pickup truck. Or... better yet, a cherry picker truck. ;) :lol:
GT Auto needs to offer, with their custom wheels & wings, the option of installing a periscope. :dopey:

One thing, and it could be my imagination, but the gearing seems slightly different in the 2000GT compared to GT5.
Could be faulty memory of course.

I've gotten the idea the gearing has changed in a few cars now compared to GT5. Not huge difference, but just somehow not the same.
In particular the VW Karmann Ghia, and the Ford Ka.
Also the Autozam, I feel like I have to shift even earlier with the Autozam now, compared to in GT5.
I know the Volvo Estate 88 is different, but I chalk that up to the fact that in GT5, I only ever had a VERY high mileage Estate. And I think that effects the power curve.
 
watermelonpunch
I've gotten the idea the gearing has changed in a few cars now compared to GT5. Not huge difference, but just somehow not the same.
In particular the VW Karmann Ghia, and the Ford Ka.
Also the Autozam, I feel like I have to shift even earlier with the Autozam now, compared to in GT5.
I know the Volvo Estate 88 is different, but I chalk that up to the fact that in GT5, I only ever had a VERY high mileage Estate. And I think that effects the power curve.
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Have they fixed the gearing on the old chain drive Hondas; s500, s600, z-car?
 

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