Weekly Challenge Discussion Thread

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Did four of the five weekly races today. Really enjoyed the Tesla race, and 4WD 600, but the Brands hatch being the short course and only 2(!) laps was kind of a let down, and as I mentioned above, I most definitely did not enjoy the Neo-Classical at RBR, and didn't the first time around either.

Here's the Alfa Veloce at Brands Hatch. Pretty boring, but very pretty.



I don't get the hate for the Tesla. Here's a clean race and a win in a bone stock Model 3 on SH. The car drives really well, and it's a nice break from shifting! I also don't mind the quiet.



The 4WD 600 is another fun one. I love Yamigawa and Miyabi. I haven't really driven the 22B much at all, so I figured I'd take a stock on out and see how it does. Very fun. You can pose it on the brakes and pull out with the throttle. I forced it loose a few times in this one, you know, for fun.



Here is my run at RBR with the Jaguar. As I said in a few posts above this, this race is a challenge for me. The majority of the time the AI isn't a problem for me, but this race and a couple others (the Super Formula at Fuji being one) seem like the difficulty is multiplied a bunch of times. I know my run is far from perfect, but I still don't know why I'm so far off the pace in all my runs (I did it three times with the CLK-GTR before this, and had plenty of pace [1:27s] on trim 4-5). Feel free to tell me all the things I'm screwing up in this one!



Hope to do the Spa 1 hour tonight, and I don't imagine it being a problem at all using a GR3 car. It wasn't the first time.
 
Tmo343
Not suprised to hear the TS030 is a beast in this game. It was my go to for longer races in GT6 as it sipped fuel, conserved it's tires well and the game only counted the engine for pp so would often run rings around the AI.

Sadly I don't have it yet in GT7 so not sure what I want to use for the spa race. I do have the LM55 VGT but at 925 don't think i can get it under 800, also thinking about the 787B as I see a few of you recommending it with a specific tune but not sure about FM/tire strat for it and finally what are people's thoughts on the 962 or the XJR9. Pretty sure I have both and haven't seen much said about them so not sure if it's worth trying to detune to 800 and run the race.
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TSO30 isn't as it was at gt6 as and other cars with the most waisted car to be the 2J .
Fuel map and tyre wear change a lot the nature of the game from gt6.
Anyway , the LM55 you have probably is the latest gift car and not the gr1 one.
The LM 55 gr1 can be detune up to 700pp so definitely the L55 version can be at 800 pp.
787 is an excellent choice if you have it already , its among the top cars at 800pp and his fuel consumption is from the best ones that make it very " versatile " for long races with changing weather.
If you don't want to spend credits use what you have ,find a tune that " works " and take note tha Spa need some aero in front in order to enjoy it and not the usual lowest in front, higher in the rear that helps pp go down.
Also its excellent for neoclassical races too.
If you want to spend they are more alternatives but since you have them i suggest to save your credits and get these 2.5 millions unharmed 😄.
 
Mystical Drag
Nice. Ive heard its a good car. Do you recall how much it was? Ill likely be grinding the credits to have on hand for when it comes out.

Im in a heavy grind for the mclarren f1 atm. Im halfway there so another 5 hours to go.
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Unfortunately, it's not currently available, but it might be in the next week. Specifically, I have my doubts on whether it will be available before Thursday Australian time. It will be 3,300,000 Cr. its next trip through.

As for the other Group C cars, the Jaguar XJR-9 is due up next, most likely Saturday night (or Sunday for you), at 3,000,000 Cr. I'm sure there's an 800-PP tune out there somewhere. Unless one of the remaining Group C cars shows up as a special pick, those won't be available before this week's challenges runs out.

The longtail F1 GTR that's in Hagerty's now might well do the trick after some mild de-tuning, but at 14,000,000 Cr., it's an expensive option. Beyond that, when the Neo-Classical Challenges first came out, the Suzuki Escudo (currently available for 1,700,000 Cr.) was an option, though I don't know its viability since the 1.31 physics update.
Tmo343
Not suprised to hear the TS030 is a beast in this game. It was my go to for longer races in GT6 as it sipped fuel, conserved it's tires well and the game only counted the engine for pp so would often run rings around the AI.

Sadly I don't have it yet in GT7 so not sure what I want to use for the spa race. I do have the LM55 VGT but at 925 don't think i can get it under 800, also thinking about the 787B as I see a few of you recommending it with a specific tune but not sure about FM/tire strat for it and finally what are people's thoughts on the 962 or the XJR9. Pretty sure I have both and haven't seen much said about them so not sure if it's worth trying to detune to 800 and run the race.
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For the 787B, grab @praiano63's tune and don't worry about fuel management or tire strategy. If somehow you get a completely dry race, it will last pretty close to 30 minutes on both fuel (at FM 1) and tires (RM) while turning sub-2:14 laps (a good 6 seconds faster than the fastest AI on normal, which would have to do 3 stops in a dry race to your 2), but it will almost certainly rain before you run out of either. I can't speak for the Jaguar's performance, but you'll be in a similar situation with the Porsche.

The Porsche and Jaguar (and Nissan) Group C tunes in the Sardegna Leaderboard thread should translate pretty well to both Spa and Red Bull Ring.
 
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Eggstor
Unfortunately, it's not currently available, but it might be in the next week. Specifically, I have my doubts on whether it will be available before Thursday Australian time. It will be 3,300,000 Cr. its next trip through.

As for the other Group C cars, the Jaguar XJR-9 is due up next, most likely Saturday night (or Sunday for you), at 3,000,000 Cr. I'm sure there's an 800-PP tune out there somewhere. Unless one of the remaining Group C cars shows up as a special pick, those won't be available before this week's challenges runs out.

The longtail F1 GTR that's in Hagerty's now might well do the trick after some mild de-tuning, but at 14,000,000 Cr., it's an expensive option. Beyond that, when the Neo-Classical Challenges first came out, the Suzuki Escudo (currently available for 1,700,000 Cr.) was an option, though I don't know its viability since the 1.31 physics update.

For the 787B, grab @praiano63's tune and don't worry about fuel management or tire strategy. If somehow you get a completely dry race, it will last pretty close to 30 minutes on both fuel (at FM 1) and tires (RM) while turning sub-2:14 laps (a good 6 seconds faster than the fastest AI on normal, which would have to do 3 stops in a dry race to your 2), but it will almost certainly rain before you run out of either. I can't speak for the Jaguar's performance, but you'll be in a similar situation with the Porsche.
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Nice thank you for the info. 3.3m is easy 2.5 hours at sardegna and done.

I got the escudo this morning from a suggestion here. It did work solid for the neo classical event. I might try it to complete book 43. Ill be lookin into a tune for it but it did handle well.
 
Eggstor
For the 787B, grab @praiano63's tune and don't worry about fuel management or tire strategy. If somehow you get a completely dry race, it will last pretty close to 30 minutes on both fuel (at FM 1) and tires (RM) while turning sub-2:14 laps (a good 6 seconds faster than the fastest AI on normal, which would have to do 3 stops in a dry race to your 2), but it will almost certainly rain before you run out of either. I can't speak for the Jaguar's performance, but you'll be in a similar situation with the Porsche.
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Thanks for the advice on the 787B, good to know that it's a pretty easy win with it or the other Group C cars i own. Wasn't expecting 30 mins on FM1, that's really good as it means a 1 stop is doable. I assume run the same tune/strat for Neoclassical given it fits there and is just as easy to win with
 
Mystical Drag
Nice thank you for the info. 3.3m is easy 2.5 hours at sardegna and done.

I got the escudo this morning from a suggestion here. It did work solid for the neo classical event. I might try it to complete book 43. Ill be lookin into a tune for it but it did handle well.
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Not a problem. Two things about the Escudo - those are not real headlights, so Spa would be a challenge, and you might want a full-custom racing transmission to allow for a higher top speed at Fuji.
Tmo343
Thanks for the advice on the 787B, good to know that it's a pretty easy win with it or the other Group C cars i own. Wasn't expecting 30 mins on FM1, that's really good as it means a 1 stop is doable. I assume run the same tune/strat for Neoclassical given it fits there and is just as easy to win with
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That was just the back of the envelope estimate given I got rain on lap 8 with a bit more than 40 minutes to go and still had better than a third of a tank and very little tire wear. I don't recall it being dry for a 30-minute stretch in any of my 4 races.

I didn't make any changes for Red Bull Ring, and found it quite easy.
 
Did the Neoclassical in the CLK on hard yesterday. Second place is fine. Totally dry race. No stop.

Today i prepared the McLaren BMW F1 1997 Gr.2 ir whatever it's name is for the Spa race. To me it seems strange that at 800pp i get 440 kW on hard tyres and the CLK at 800pp has 520 kW on medium tires. Both with same weight. Still want to try the BMW/McLaren (stupid F1 names i can't distinguish or memorize). Must still be easier than any Gr.3 car for Spa.

Edit: Still never used the Standby Option of the PS5. Can i race half an hour of Spa, go to Standby and finish the next day? Anything to consider?
 
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LSFDRX
you have every aid on, so our experiences are nothing alike
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Well I have the aids on just for my lazy kicking back kinda of day. But after reading your response, I went back and turned everything off... the result is the same, I can still beat it. The aid doesn't do too much of a difference if you're consistent enough. I've driven this track so many times I practically memorized the lines in my head. Your fastest lap is faster than my fastest, so you should be able to beat it without a sweat if you keep every lap consistent.
I guess to each his own. This is one race that I couldn't beat at first try last year. I came back a few weeks later and beat it. My trick is simply just to drive consistently the same very single lap.
Well, I am glad you enjoy the Tesla, but don't diss on other's ideas though. Drifting is the only thing I haven't try yet, but I've done many track days with my own STI and G35. Driven a couple of EV as well. I respect your taste because you actually find joy in it. It's just not for everybody.
 
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Eggstor
That was just the back of the envelope estimate given I got rain on lap 8 with a bit more than 40 minutes to go and still had better than a third of a tank and very little tire wear. I don't recall it being dry for a 30-minute stretch in any of my 4 races.

I didn't make any changes for Red Bull Ring, and found it quite easy.
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Just did RBR and wow it was a breeze. Did Fm2 and pitted for intermediates about a lap before the rain came. Could've done it on fm1 with a dash but wasn't taking my chances and still won it by 30 seconds.

Put me in a great mood for spa as it's such a nice car to drive and good on fuel. Likely will do it tomorrow but should be easy as long as I keep an eye on the radar
 
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Why does everyone here hate Tesla so much? Is it just because Musk is a jerk? I totally agree of course but remain largely ambivalent about Tesla, certainly have no qualms about having a Tesla in my GT garage. Quite enjoyed the event as well actually, easy to win even on 'hard mode' with a bone stock car.
 
LSFDRX
Started with the CLK-GTR, and WOW, what an amazing car! This is my first time driving it and it's so agile yet planted, sounds great, and is quick, BUT... (rant incoming)

I got a dry race to begin with and was still TWENTY seconds behind the Silk-Cut Jaguar with a no-stop strat. The best I could do was 4th, and I'm not a slow driver (first place is usually no issue using low PP cars). This makes no sense!

Then went to the Jag, and the pre-race radar said NO RAIN... but wouldn't you know it, heavy rain a few laps in. Is the pre-race radar just broken now?! Then, despite running similar but slower lap times than the CLK, I pull out a 3rd because of the AI's stupid pit "strategy".
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Yup this pretty much mirrors my experience.

P3 still my best effort in this race.
 
turismoslayer
Well that’s unfortunate. I will not be receiving a $1M prize ticket this week due to my my pure hatred for Teslas. Seems enticing, but I’m sticking to my guns.
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LSFDRX
I don't know what the rest of you are doing, and what difficulty you all have it on (I run hardest difficulty and ABS weak only), but this Neo-classic race is just as much b******* as it was the first time around.

Started with the CLK-GTR, and WOW, what an amazing car! This is my first time driving it and it's so agile yet planted, sounds great, and is quick, BUT... (rant incoming)

I got a dry race to begin with and was still TWENTY seconds behind the Silk-Cut Jaguar with a no-stop strat. The best I could do was 4th, and I'm not a slow driver (first place is usually no issue using low PP cars). This makes no sense!

Then went to the Jag, and the pre-race radar said NO RAIN... but wouldn't you know it, heavy rain a few laps in. Is the pre-race radar just broken now?! Then, despite running similar but slower lap times than the CLK, I pull out a 3rd because of the AI's stupid pit "strategy".

This race sucks. RBR sucks. GT's race building is just broken sometimes, and this is one where I'm not going back for first again because... it SUCKS!

Video's will be posted as soon as YT sorts them out. Looking forward to SpA later tonight.

Also: the Tesla race was good fun, and I was able to clean race it on the second attempt. I don't know what y'all are smoking, but the Model 3 is super fun, tossable, and capable. I seriously think that Elon hate (I don't like him either) is seriously swaying opinions on this one.
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The PRE race radar is just that, PRE race! For rain DURING the race you need to keep an eye on the weather radar on the mfd!
 
Pesselles
Yes, it is :) (I've only drive a model X, not the 3)
When I drive in full electric mode, my BMW is as silent as that.
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But shouldn't you hear the sound of the wheels on the track? I remember being on a taxi (Toyota Prius) that was on full electric and the noise from te wheels were almost as loud as an engine at low rpm.
 
Met Entso
But shouldn't you hear the sound of the wheels on the track? I remember being on a taxi (Toyota Prius) that was on full electric and the noise from te wheels were almost as loud as an engine at low rpm.
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It depend on the tyres brand and also on the quality of the road/street, I imagine.
I have good quality tyres on my car (mostly for efficiency) and it's very silent.

In case of the Tesla on GT7 and if the tyres are appropriate (race/sport/etc), the sound is almost accurate.
 
And just like that Spa is done. Really nice race, screwed up my strategy by burning the inters too much after the first downpour so had to pit for a second set, might not be running my strategy right but it seems to be a 2 stop on fuel with FM1 in the 787B but still took the win by a lap
Now time to clean up a few WTC800 events, neoclassical at Willow and grind spa for the CGT i got an invite for (spent the credits on some other stuff to finish menu books) As I've fallen in love with the 787B, please can we have some more WTC800 events next week PD.
 
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Hmm, my new account, unfortunately, can not run the neo-classic race since I’m not at collector level 33. Currently at level 29. I would probably need to spend 5-7M credits to get to to level 33. Been trying to gold some Missions and licenses to get the cars for free but they keep getting harder and harder, so it’s taking a bit more time than I like.

Edit: Ran the Spa event in the Gr.3 Corvette. Not a great car. Breaks are terrible and the handling is not very sharp. It’s the 5th heaviest Gr.3 car in the game so that must be why it’s a dog. That said, I would have won the race but I got spooked by the first bit of rain and pitted for inters only to have no lasting rain and had to pit 2 laps later to put slicks back on. Lost by 16 seconds but still got 3rd. I know I could have used a detuned Gr.2 or Gr.1/Gr.C car but I wanted to try it in a Gr.3 car.
 
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Tommy_D
Hmm, my new account, unfortunately, can not run the neo-classic race since I’m not at collector level 33. Currently at level 29. I would probably need to spend 5-7M credits to get to to level 33. Been trying to gold some Missions and licenses to get the cars for free but they keep getting harder and harder, so it’s taking a bit more time than I like.
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Circuit experiences ;)
 
Confession time, I've never done that Spa race before. I wish I had because graphically it's utterly superb. Nighttime with the lights is cracking. That's two million in the bag as a result. Used the Mazda 787b with the Sardegna tune. Great if a little rubbish on the brakes.
 
Rossell2
Confession time, I've never done that Spa race before. I wish I had because graphically it's utterly superb. Nighttime with the lights is cracking. That's two million in the bag as a result. Used the Mazda 787b with the Sardegna tune. Great if a little rubbish on the brakes.
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I went with the R92CP but horses for course :)

But my power went out so I hate you in a friendly way :)
 
Cars I drove this week:

  • BMW 3.0 CSL 71 (sunday cup)
  • Tesla X 23 (special event)
  • Nissan GT R32 (4wd japanese )
  • Mercedes CLK LM 98 (neo classical and spa 60 minutes)

- I had luck (I guess) in the neo classical race. My race had zero rain. So, a simple and easy win, no pits.

- at Spa, my race gave me rain at the end of lap 7, I pitted for wets, it was a rainy night. Around lap 16 or 17, I changed the tyres for another set of RH, the track seemed to be dry enough for it. However little did I notice that some parts were still too slipery. From that point on I kept driving as careful as possible, I even had a couple of spins as I saw I.Fraga pit again (he was on Inters and pit for slicks I guess. I have to check the replay later) and close down the gap quickly. Despite me visiting the gravel a couple of times and being on slicks too early I still managed to win.

Spa 24hrs is by far the best race event of the whole game. I wish PD could give us more od things like that.

Right after that I started the CE at Spa. Golded all the sectors in 10 minutes 😅 I left the lap attack for another day.

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The Neo-classic race at RBR proved troublesome for me. Used the CLK-GTR as others have, but took three attempts to get the win. Weather is a lottery on this event it seems, and a last lap shower helped me win.

That said, I’ve had a ton of fun at Spa in the WTC800 event. Went cautious to start and used the Gr2. Lexus SC430 but won by nearly two laps - first stint on RM, switch to IM when the rain came and that was it. Little bit of fuel management and short shifting over the last three laps so I only needed one stop.

Ran again and used the equivalent Gr2 Honda NSX - that car is a little heavier on its rear tires and is thirstier than the Lexus, so moved BB to the front and had to take a second pit stop around 10mins from the end for more fuel. Again used RM at the start and then a set of IM for the balance of the race.

Trusting that the weather pattern is largely repeatable (and seeing that CRB is pretty much guaranteed) I went back again this morning for a third go in the Nissan GTR500 ‘98. This is at 720pp on RM. Copied the NSX strategy and won by over a minute.

All races complete with stock settings, hard difficulty and just TCS1 when it rained. Also waited at the end of the race in the NSX for 30 seconds or so to avoid the additional lap. Pretty sure this is winnable in a Gr4 car dependent on the fuel mileage, but for now I’m enjoying using a few cars I don’t often race (and getting Cr.1.5M in the process). In short, no need to used expensive cars to win this, just trust that the AI are terrible in the rain, and minimize pit stops, knowing that it rains twice.
 

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