Weekly Challenge Discussion Thread

[Lomic]

I need to check if this weekly challenge comprises events I haven't already completed. I won't do them again just for plain credits (except if they are interesting to replay).

 

[Nebuc72]

As you're whining that "people are likely to have gone through the things that were added in such a long amount of time" now rather than a week from now, and if one first does the event as part of the Weekly Challenge, one doesn't have to do it twice, the 2-week mark is the appropriate one.

Don't see why you had to take on a hostile attitude, but sure, whatever you say old fella.

 

[IngWeltschmer]

At least, correct me if I'm wrong, the events themselves are updated with new cars: last week I saw the Tesla Model 3 in Laguna Seca race and the new 911 GT2 RS in the Nurburgring race

 

[OldandSlow]

Look on the bright side, at least PD haven't started including one-make races featuring 20mil legendary cars yet.

Yet. 😉

 

[05XR8]

Certainly. I don't own any, but the Classic races in GTS, gave us the opportunity to use those cars in diverse grids.

 

[GlockPants]

At least, correct me if I'm wrong, the events themselves are updated with new cars: last week I saw the Tesla Model 3 in Laguna Seca race and the new 911 GT2 RS in the Nurburgring race

I saw both of those cars as well.

 

[MineralBlurb7]

I’m really enjoying the weekly challenges. I’ve won all the races already, but it’s fun having them in a “single package.”

I’d love to see some Weekly Challenge specifics though…700pp muscle cars on the Nurburgring for 250k would be a hoot.

 

[sirjim73]

This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Gran Turismo 7 Weekly Challenges: Taking Credit​

The third week of Gran Turismo 7’s new Weekly Challenges is now upon us, with players set a new series of five challenges as the clock hits midnight in their region...

@Famine in the Tsukuba paragraph it says "although you wheel need a ..." is that intentional or a Freudian slip?

 

[tankuroded]

It's pretty much a non-issue as starting the book has the same requirements as making the Weekly Challenges available: completing Menu Book 39 and watching the ending movie...

And having a Collector Level of at least 39.

This. If you don't have enough collector level to start a bonus book - or if you are in the middle of another menu book (only one menu book can be played at a time - you must cancel the current book to start another), what gives?

"0 new events" includes a WTC 900 race, not introduced until the same update that introduced the "Weekly Challenges" and a WRC race at Lake Louise that also was not available before said update.

"New events" refers to exclusive races, like the 992 GT3 RS race from the first week.

 

[Famine]

@Famine in the Tsukuba paragraph it says "although you wheel need a ..." is that intentional or a Freudian slip?

A copy-paste error. Also... someone read the article?!

This. If you don't have enough collector level to start a bonus book

You pretty much should do by the time you finish the GT Cafe Menu Books - which is the first pre-requisite.

Collector Level 39 I think requires a Car Collection value of 31,900,000cr and (although I'd need to sit and add up a worst-case scenario for the three-option tickets) you'll be not a huge distance away from that in car and cash value just by completing the GT Cafe Menu Books, and all the various tickets you'll collect along the way.

If I recall correctly, I was at CL37 when I completed the GT Cafe Menu back a couple of days after launch, with 90-odd reward cars (some from licences, I concede) plus whatever I'd bought and with a few million credits, without doing anything other than Menu Books and licences. That was without all the additional rewards now in the Extra Menus (again, I don't think you'll autocomplete any from GT Cafe Menu progress, but a couple look like they'd only need a low-value car or two in addition to your own rewards to complete them) and without the additional earning potential of Circuit Experience; it's not super complicated to pick up another 3.45m of cars from there - less so now.

if you are in the middle of another menu book (only one menu book can be played at a time - you must cancel the current book to start another)

Yeah, again, that's not massive. You've got seven days to do three (or fewer) races to finish that menu book. I recall a lot of people complaining that the races are too short in menu books.


In any case it may be all moot; I can't check - because the various test accounts aren't at the finale and my main account is way beyond the requirements so it's obviously accessible on that - but the game may well display the race under the special circumstance of it being a Weekly Challenge. We're only assuming it might not because of the Extra Menu thing.

 

[sesven]

And having a Collector Level of at least 39.




"0 new events" includes a WTC 900 race, not introduced until the same update that introduced the "Weekly Challenges" and a WRC race at Lake Louise that also was not available before said update.

Also, 750,000 Cr. isn't exactly "huge", though it is better than 300,000 Cr. and most of the engines available (Week 1), or 200,000 Cr., parts and a "cheaper" tier-3 car (like the Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren I got on the GTP account, Week 2).

0 new events yeah that’s correct. For this week’s “weekly challenge.” Maybe you don’t remember but in past GT titles they were able to create “seasonal events” that would be completely new and rotate through the game in a similar way these weekly challenges do.

The difference is these weekly challenges, aside from the very first one, have re-used events that already exist in the game. So yes, the WTC900 and Lake Louise events you’re referring to are “newer” than most events. But they are not “new” especially since I and I’m sure many others have already done them haha

Since you seem to be defending it, I’ll ask directly; Do you prefer reused events instead of new ones? And if so, why?

 

[Eggstor]

You pretty much should do by the time you finish the GT Cafe Menu Books - which is the first pre-requisite.

Collector Level 39 I think requires a Car Collection value of 31,900,000cr and (although I'd need to sit and add up a worst-case scenario for the three-option tickets) you'll be not a huge distance away from that in car and cash value just by completing the GT Cafe Menu Books, and all the various tickets you'll collect along the way.

If I recall correctly, I was at CL37 when I completed the GT Cafe Menu back a couple of days after launch, with 90-odd reward cars (some from licences, I concede) plus whatever I'd bought and with a few million credits, without doing anything other than Menu Books and licences. That was without all the additional rewards now in the Extra Menus (again, I don't think you'll autocomplete any from GT Cafe Menu progress, but a couple look like they'd only need a low-value car or two in addition to your own rewards to complete them) and without the additional earning potential of Circuit Experience; it's not super complicated to pick up another 3.45m of cars from there - less so now.

I can't quite confirm that level 39 requirement, but based on a list of when some of the lower CLs unlock, that seems right. The good news is CL doesn't drop if one sells or dumps a car.

Going back through an old worksheet (so the value of whatever prize cars are Hagerty's are out of date), the original Menu Book cars (plus the necessary National B/National A bronze) were worth between roughly 10.4 and 12.7 million Cr. (depending on what one got from the championships), or CL 24-25 without spending a dime beyond the initial car and whichever pickup one bought to clear that menu book.

Getting and golding the rest of the regular licenses adds another 4.6 million Cr. worth of cars, to bring that total to 15.0-17.3 million Cr., or an estimated CL of 27-29...still with buying only the 2 required cars.

If one throws in golding the post-launch Missions, which give 7.1 million Cr. worth of cars, that brings the worth of the garage to 22.1-24.4 million Cr., or CL 33-34, all with buying only 2 cars.

Cash, at least before the addition of the missions and bonuses for bronzing/golding the Circuit Experiences, was rather tight. Without CEs or Mission money, the 1.1 million Cr. in pre-order/25th AE bonuses, or the 1 million Cr. in "make-good" money from the 1.07 fiasco, I had about 4 million Cr. left after blitzing through the original Menu Books, spending only on 2 cars (the Mazda Demio and the Toyota Tundra) and tuning. Golding the missions add 14.4 million Cr. and golding the Circuit Experiences add 52.5 million Cr. Just the latter is more than enough to get one to CL 50.

As for the extra menus, there's only 3 that give cars - Honda Type R (#2, gives the 450,000-Cr. Honda NSX Gr.B), Nissan Fairlady Z (#4, gives the 300,000-Cr. GReddy Fugu Z) and Honda Motorsports (#16, gives the 1,000,000-Cr. SF19 Honda). For the Honda Type R, one can't win the required 1992 Honda NSX, for the Nissan Fairlady Z, one can't win the 1989 or 2023 Z's, and for the Honda Motorsports, one can't win any of them.

In any case it may be all moot; I can't check - because the various test accounts aren't at the finale and my main account is way beyond the requirements so it's obviously accessible on that - but the game may well display the race under the special circumstance of it being a Weekly Challenge. We're only assuming it might not because of the Extra Menu thing.

Give me a few hours - I haven't started either of the Menu Books on my GTP account, but midnight CST is still hours away.

0 new events yeah that’s correct. For this week’s “weekly challenge.” Maybe you don’t remember but in past GT titles they were able to create “seasonal events” that would be completely new and rotate through the game in a similar way these weekly challenges do.

The difference is these weekly challenges, aside from the very first one, have re-used events that already exist in the game. So yes, the WTC900 and Lake Louise events you’re referring to are “newer” than most events. But they are not “new” especially since I and I’m sure many others have already done them haha

Since you seem to be defending it, I’ll ask directly; Do you prefer reused events instead of new ones? And if so, why?

Were you able to do the WTC 900 or Lake Louise events before November 2? No? Then how are they not new events?

See me again when PD either runs out of the events added in 1.40 or doesn't use either one of them or a special "online" event in the Weekly Challenge. Until then, I presume you're working on your own GT-killer game.

 

[sesven]

I can't quite confirm that level 39 requirement, but based on a list of when some of the lower CLs unlock, that seems right. The good news is CL doesn't drop if one sells or dumps a car.

Going back through an old worksheet (so the value of whatever prize cars are Hagerty's are out of date), the original Menu Book cars (plus the necessary National B/National A bronze) were worth between roughly 10.4 and 12.7 million Cr. (depending on what one got from the championships), or CL 24-25 without spending a dime beyond the initial car and whichever pickup one bought to clear that menu book.

Getting and golding the rest of the regular licenses adds another 4.6 million Cr. worth of cars, to bring that total to 15.0-17.3 million Cr., or an estimated CL of 27-29...still with buying only the 2 required cars.

If one throws in golding the post-launch Missions, which give 7.1 million Cr. worth of cars, that brings the worth of the garage to 22.1-24.4 million Cr., or CL 33-34, all with buying only 2 cars.

Cash, at least before the addition of the missions and bonuses for bronzing/golding the Circuit Experiences, was rather tight. Without CEs or Mission money, the 1.1 million Cr. in pre-order/25th AE bonuses, or the 1 million Cr. in "make-good" money from the 1.07 fiasco, I had about 4 million Cr. left after blitzing through the original Menu Books, spending only on 2 cars (the Mazda Demio and the Toyota Tundra) and tuning. Golding the missions add 14.4 million Cr. and golding the Circuit Experiences add 52.5 million Cr. Just the latter is more than enough to get one to CL 50.

As for the extra menus, there's only 3 that give cars - Honda Type R (#2, gives the 450,000-Cr. Honda NSX Gr.B), Nissan Fairlady Z (#4, gives the 300,000-Cr. GReddy Fugu Z) and Honda Motorsports (#16, gives the 1,000,000-Cr. SF19 Honda). For the Honda Type R, one can't win the required 1992 Honda NSX, for the Nissan Fairlady Z, one can't win the 1989 or 2023 Z's, and for the Honda Motorsports, one can't win any of them.

Give me a few hours - I haven't started either of the Menu Books on my GTP account, but midnight CST is still hours away.

Were you able to do the WTC 900 or Lake Louise events before November 2? No? Then how are they not new events?

See me again when PD either runs out of the events added in 1.40 or doesn't use either one of them or a special "online" event in the Weekly Challenge. Until then, I presume you're working on your own GT-killer game.

No I wasn’t. Though I had done them before the “weekly challenge” so it is not how I personally define new. Neither am I working on a GT title, I have my own full time job.

I answered your question. I would appreciate it if you answered mine: “GT has created unique events that cycled in the past - they were called seasonal events. Now, we get weekly challenges that recycle used events (trying to avoid “new”) Do you prefer recycled events instead of unique ones? And if so, why is it better than the seasonal events of the past?”

 

[Techlet]

When the weekly challenge is advertised as having "all new events" on top of existing world map events, it's understandable that players are expecting "new" events every week that aren't already available outside of the weekly challenge.

I'm more disappointed that the rewards are reduced to just credits now instead of being a reliable source of extra roulette tickets. Credits can be grinded elsewhere, tickets (still the only way of getting invite cars outside of a one-time championship reward) not so much.

Personal pet peeve: I wish the ugly green indicator on the world map would go away after completing the weekly challenge. It looks so distractingly out of place.

 

[Eggstor]

No I wasn’t. Though I had done them before the “weekly challenge” so it is not how I personally define new. Neither am I working on a GT title, I have my own full time job.

I answered your question. I would appreciate it if you answered mine: “GT has created unique events that cycled in the past - they were called seasonal events. Now, we get weekly challenges that recycle used events (trying to avoid “new”) Do you prefer recycled events instead of unique ones? And if so, why is it better than the seasonal events of the past?”

You must have rushed through all 20 new races so that none of them are now "new" to you. On the account where I concentrated on these new events, I still have 2 of them undone. On the one where I am concentrating on the new licenses (and the Manufacturers/Nations Cups), I only got to the ones that are/were part of the Weekly Challenges.

I would rather like more of the limited "online" races, of which we got one the first week. Now, see me when your GT-killer game hits the market.

 

[sesven]

You must have rushed through all 20 new races so that none of them are now not "new" to you. On the account where I concentrated on these new events, I still have 2 of them undone. On the one where I am concentrating on the new licenses (and the Manufacturers/Nations Cups), I only got to the ones that are/were part of the Weekly Challenges.

I would rather like more of the limited "online" races, of which we got one the first week. Now, see me when your GT-killer game hits the market.

Sounds good, I would also like limited online races.

In real life, if I buy a car. Drive it for two weeks and then go to sell it, I cannot sell it as a “new” car. This is why I said, to me, these events are not new.

I cannot make a GT Killer game and never claimed I could? I do have opinions though, just like anyone else. Remember even the best professional athletes in the world have coaches and advisors. It’s not a matter of “If you cannot do better you cannot speak.” That’s not really how the world works. I mean, game journalists exist right?

 

[GlockPants]

@sesven and @Eggstor

Perhaps we could agree the events are new-ish?

Perhaps low-mileage events? Not the first owner, but still has that new-event smell?

I understand both of your points I feel like you're both right.

 

[Techlet]

While I don't have much problem with recycling events for the weekly challenge, I do wish PD picked more cohesively themed events to highlight certain types of cars or manufacturers and not just a set of 5 random races.

They don't need to create completely new events every week (that'd be asking too much of a live service game) but maybe change up the entry restrictions of existing events to freshen things up?

 

[SSQES]

Any idea on when the WTC 900 will be available?

Edit : My bad, saw the Article now

 

[sesven]

While I don't have much problem with recycling events for the weekly challenge, I do wish PD picked more cohesively themed events to highlight certain types of cars or manufacturers and not just a set of 5 random races.

They don't need to create completely new events every week (that'd be asking too much of a live service game) but maybe change up the entry restrictions of existing events to freshen things up?

I’m willing to make that compromise. In fact, I quite liked the first week. As since it was the first weekly challenge of the update, even the re-used events had new AI cars. Since the term “Challenge” is being used I would like to see the returning events have some temporary twist to them so to speak.

The concept is great. Give people a reason to revisit events instead of creating them for players to just be “one and done.” However it is this week’s implementation of them that I’m not impressed with. I think it’s completely reasonable to say that having 5 reused events with no cohesion and pure credit tickets is the least inspired use of the concept. It’s basically putting a green UI button in the menu and bumping up the cash payout. I just hope next week is more exciting is all, I love Gran Turismo and it has so much potential - I just want to see them make the most of it.

 

[DuckworthDFV]

This is excellent Im thoroughly enjoying the weekly challenges and having it this week give the 500k for the 5 races is pretty amazing

 

[TumeK5]

They don't need to create completely new events every week (that'd be asking too much of a live service game) but maybe change up the entry restrictions of existing events to freshen things up?

The passing condition for each race is always merely 3rd, though, so it's like a cue to heavily restrict yourself and get the bare minimum to get the rewards.

But yeah, should've known PD would be this lazy. On the other hand, these challenges pay out nicely, so shouldn't complain...

 

[benjoi84]

Quite a few of the World Circuit events I haven't completed, so the weekly challenge is a good cue to get them done. Also, they often lead me complete to the remaining events in a series, so single player is really getting a battering from me these days (with Quick & Custom races suddenly becoming viable also, I really have to be in the mood for Sport Mode).

 

[KAlex122]

Weekly events are very welcomed as i will not renew my PS+ membership.

 

[tankuroded]

This. If you don't have enough collector level to start a bonus book - or if you are in the middle of another menu book (only one menu book can be played at a time - you must cancel the current book to start another), what gives?

Well, someone on Reddit answered me:

 

[Talon16]

I don't mind the credits, just wish it were more (as do we all I assume). I'd much rather credits than an engine or parts, but the five/six star roulettes usually pay decent or give a car that is worth more than the 650k you'll get from this week's (or a car you can sell for credits anyway) rounds.

I'll still do them.

 

[TumeK5]

Thankfully this week the rewards are all credits. Nice to see it's sometimes worth it

 

[Eggstor]

Well, someone on Reddit answered me:
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Guess I'll have to start that menu book on the GTP account.

 

[Lubeify100]

The prizes this week works for me as I'm tired of repetitive grinding and I still need credits after the Spec II update. At 15 million now from 3 million post-update

 

[Kamikatze]

The prizes this week works for me as I'm tired of repetitive grinding and I still need credits after the Spec II update. At 15 million now from 3 million post-update

For me it's the opposite as I'm now swimming in money thanks to custom race payouts. As I'm here for the gameplay, so is the new challenge disappointing as there are no tweaks or anything..

At least I found out that I can win the Schwarzwald League races in my 600PP VW Polo