What did you do in GT7 today?

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I did two endurance races before dinner, Maggiore and Kyoto in Human Comedy. Indeed it's a comedy.

Maggiore first. It's a great flowing track which I generally avoid online due to it being dive bomb heaven. It seems PD has managed to turn it into dive bomb heaven for the AI as well. Never have I ever been dive bombed so much in one race, rammed from behind, barge passed, all for going for one stop while the AI does multiple and HAS to pass no matter what or how. They'll dive and go off track with barely any difference in how they drive on the road, on grass or through the gravel...

I was in the Lexus, could do about 2 minute flat laps, AI was doing 1:56 laps. No chance for a win anyway, I finished 14th in the end, barely scraping a bronze together. The only thing to take away from that race is, I got dive bombed and crashed off by Fraga :lol:

Next Kyoto which was a pita to start since you can't see what PP your cars will have with Sports Tires and it takes forever to buy and switch them to sports tires to see if they will fit within the 550pp limit. Then when I had settled on an oldie Porsche, the thing just wanted to spin when getting up to speed, in a straight line lol. So I picked a car from the ranking board instead, amateurishly tuned it to get within the PP limit and tried to survive the AI.

The AI was a bit better behaved at Kyoto, less dive bombie, however rubber banding was ridiculous. They'll slow down, let you pass, speed up, barge through and disappear ahead again. The AI did have some brilliant team work... One car ramming me wide while the next quickly squeezes through. First remained out of reach, doggedly staying 30 sec ahead, yet it looked like Hizal wanted me to finish fifth. I was gaining on him 2 to 3 sec per lap from 16 sec behind, passed him cleanly with 3 laps to go. Then he got the boost, sped up, flew past and took position 5 sec in front of me, not letting me catch up anymore. I finished 6th, huge gap to the rest of the field, top 5 grouped ahead.

My hopes are on Forza 8 delivering. GT7 simply is not a racing game. The AI is the worst in the series. Their cars are glued to the track, don't see you most of the time and behave according to a simple script speeding up and slowing down on cue. But I'll keep working towards creating multi-class endurance races. If not to race them, at least it's eye candy on the track while lapping them... The track and weather are worthy opponents, the AI is just a joke to provide some distraction while lapping.
 
Made 800k at Tokyo, got a 2 star ticket to the most stupid game mechanic ever introduced in a GT game, rewarded with so little credit that the time spend waiting for the lowest payout would have earned me more at Tokyo. I got a hunch that the next screw you items on my roulette list will be low grade upgrades for cars i don't have and don't really want to tune anyway. Because with the wheel of misfortune the worst is yet to come.
 
Spent some time attempting to understand transmission tuning which garnered excellent results* but still not entirely clear on the method behind it.

*Excellent results being victory in the chilli-pepper GT Cup Gr.3 and Gr.4 races.

Essentially took off top end speed for more acceleration and only really felt the lack of top end on the approach to 130R at Suzuka
 
Yesterday ran Spa and Sardegna all day. Bought 3 Porsche 962. Have An original, a shell one and a Kramer Kenwood one. Probably buy more today. I love them.
Just about to Start my Derek Bell fantasies round the ring. I wouldn’t dare compare myself to the master Belhof. I was wondering, when you fit the turbo available, do you reckon that’s about what the cars produced in qualifying trim? It’s excellent fun round old Le Mans
 
Bought a Jag VGT, added RH tyres, bought the power restrictor and only had to drop to about 98. Went into the Monza WTC 800. The fuel mix screen isn't there for this, obviously, and I have not yet worked out how to tell how full the battery is.
A bit different to how I remember it in GTS, but got used to it and caught up with the field, raring to go...... imagine my surprise when I ran out of juice just at the start of lap 2! 🤣🤣🤣
 
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Not much. Did some Daily Bs and one C. Wasn't going to well, but eventually got a P1 in B with the Mustang. Called it a day after that one.

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Yesterday - back to that again - bought
  • Toyota Sports 800 '65 at the Used Lot
  • Nissan R34 GTR V-spec II Nur '02, Used Lot
  • 3x AMG A 45 '13
  • 3x AMG C 63S '15
Then for the rest of the day tried my darndest to win Tokyo with the Murcielago detuned to 599PP on sports mediums. After some frustrating restarts, mostly because I was overpushing turns and getting penalties, I finally managed 4th. It was rather fun after I grew used to my anxious gas foot. No tangling with Blofeld - I mean V. Gallo - as that would likely go badly for me, and I don't want to abuse a lovely car.

Since this was a tuner, I gave it a basic livery.

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Kokubun slipping into second on lap 11. It's not as bad losing to "her" as we're in a "relationship." See my silly daydream on page 58 for details. ;)
 
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Completed the Comedy of Kyoto in the Ferrari where I ran a one stop race pitting with 15mins to go. Ran consistent 2:51 where the leader in the 4C ran around 2:48...luckily the one stop strategy worked a treat.

Followed this up with the Daily Race B where I first used the GTR GT500 and didn't do to well. As well as this was given a stupid amount of penalties where I wasn't going offline or driving silly and finished out of the top 10. Same race but in the AMG GTR where I started 14th and finished 8th. Tried one last time in the RX VISION Stealth where I put in a better time and started 6th and finished 2nd. Much happier but still think there's room for improvement.

Oh and I picked up my daily award where I won an engine.
 

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Did a ton of stuff. The wheel of misfortune actually gave me a car yesterday AND today!! Things are looking up. I bought some used cars and did many WTC events. Getting super comfortable on a wheel now and am able to push it harder. After a few hours of GT7 I then remembered that I had abandoned Sport BEFORE starting the Professional tier (while on a dualshock). Since I now have a new G29 I wanted to see what it would be like with the wheel. Suffice it to say, I did a LOT of racing yesterday in that game. I was able to go back and redo a lot of stuff with wins instead of placings.
 
Decided to get the last 3 golds on circuit experience, Autopolis & 2 of the Tokyo Expressway full circuit tests.
Got them all, using a subtle blend of patience & extreme violence... Ok, I set my ghost to a 0.3 offset & whittled them down slowly but surely.
 
800k grinding for the daily ticket.. today under the influence of a glass to much of a German Riesling, barriers seemed to move.. got the Toyota Pickup from the wheel.. decided to be happy and not check if i already own it, because i am fairly certain i do..
 
Sven Jurgens
I did two endurance races before dinner, Maggiore and Kyoto in Human Comedy. Indeed it's a comedy.

Maggiore first. It's a great flowing track which I generally avoid online due to it being dive bomb heaven. It seems PD has managed to turn it into dive bomb heaven for the AI as well. Never have I ever been dive bombed so much in one race, rammed from behind, barge passed, all for going for one stop while the AI does multiple and HAS to pass no matter what or how. They'll dive and go off track with barely any difference in how they drive on the road, on grass or through the gravel...

I was in the Lexus, could do about 2 minute flat laps, AI was doing 1:56 laps. No chance for a win anyway, I finished 14th in the end, barely scraping a bronze together. The only thing to take away from that race is, I got dive bombed and crashed off by Fraga :lol:

Next Kyoto which was a pita to start since you can't see what PP your cars will have with Sports Tires and it takes forever to buy and switch them to sports tires to see if they will fit within the 550pp limit. Then when I had settled on an oldie Porsche, the thing just wanted to spin when getting up to speed, in a straight line lol. So I picked a car from the ranking board instead, amateurishly tuned it to get within the PP limit and tried to survive the AI.

The AI was a bit better behaved at Kyoto, less dive bombie, however rubber banding was ridiculous. They'll slow down, let you pass, speed up, barge through and disappear ahead again. The AI did have some brilliant team work... One car ramming me wide while the next quickly squeezes through. First remained out of reach, doggedly staying 30 sec ahead, yet it looked like Hizal wanted me to finish fifth. I was gaining on him 2 to 3 sec per lap from 16 sec behind, passed him cleanly with 3 laps to go. Then he got the boost, sped up, flew past and took position 5 sec in front of me, not letting me catch up anymore. I finished 6th, huge gap to the rest of the field, top 5 grouped ahead.

My hopes are on Forza 8 delivering. GT7 simply is not a racing game. The AI is the worst in the series. Their cars are glued to the track, don't see you most of the time and behave according to a simple script speeding up and slowing down on cue. But I'll keep working towards creating multi-class endurance races. If not to race them, at least it's eye candy on the track while lapping them... The track and weather are worthy opponents, the AI is just a joke to provide some distraction while lapping.
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Haha, it’s incredible how much our Offline Experience differs.
Especially racing the AI.
I believe you every word you say, although I literally NEVER EVER experienced that AI Behavior.
Honestly, I don’t know how this is possible.
Your experience is the complete opposite to what I experience.
Crazy, no idea why 😅
 
I finished off winning every World Circuit event today.
  • All Gold for World Circuit Events ✔️
  • All Gold for Licenses ✔️
  • All Gold for Missions ✔️
  • All Gold for Circuit Experiences ✔️
 
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PirovacBoy
Haha, it’s incredible how much our Offline Experience differs.
Especially racing the AI.
I believe you every word you say, although I literally NEVER EVER experienced that AI Behavior.
Honestly, I don’t know how this is possible.
Your experience is the complete opposite to what I experience.
Crazy, no idea why 😅
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I have no clue either how you get the AI to behave, I wish I knew!

I did the Maggiore race on Easy, which might have been hard, reversed like it is on Tsukaba and some other missions. The AI were doing 1:56 laps at the front. The issues happens when you drive defensively, stick to your lines with AI early pitters ending up behind you. The AI (on RM, me on RH) doesn't know how to pass slightly slower cars and ends up hitting you, making crazy dives because they have to get to their spot again in the race progression. They get crazy boosts on their out laps and if you don't get out of the way, you get moved out of the way. Getting a better corner exit and passing on the straight is an alien concept to the AI. They either boost past or dive into a corner to make a pass.

I set the difficulty to normal for the Kyoto race, no clue anymore what is fast and slow with GT7's difficulty settings. Maybe that mellowed the AI out a bit, there was still barge passing though since the AI did 2 pit stops while I was initially planning on a no stop. Very possible with fuel but I didn't like how my SH front tires were degrading so I pitted halfway for new tires and a bit of fuel to do the rest at FM1 (was driving on FM3 for the first half hour). So I was the slower car again with impatient AI needing to get back to their position window driving behind me.

It seems you just have to get out of their way to let them pass like you're blue flagged or else they just get more and more belligerent until they get past. Maybe it's because they're falling further behind their intended spot for the time in the race, and thus get more and more boost applied which results in bad moves and collisions. Hell has no fury like an AI behind their time table.

Anyway, try defensive driving against an AI that pits early and ends up behind you. See what moves they try and how it ramps up in aggression until they simply move you out of the way. The AI is fine when it's in the place it has to be according to whatever race schedule they adhere to. When behind due to a a pit stop, they get boosted and start doing crazy things. It's not racing, it's figuring out their time table and have a better car setup to out pace their time table.
 
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Finished grinding for the invitation cars. Then bought some more cars. Mix of Le Mans and Spa.
Passed out when I won 1,000,000Cr from a 4 star roulette.
Did Le Mans CE.
2 races on GT Sport.
Played around with tuning some cars and messing about on time trials.

I have a LOT of spare time at the minute!
 
Sven Jurgens
I have no clue either how you get the AI to behave, I wish I knew!

I did the Maggiore race on Easy, which might have been hard, reversed like it is on Tsukaba and some other missions. The AI were doing 1:56 laps at the front. The issues happens when you drive defensively, stick to your lines with AI early pitters ending up behind you. The AI (on RM, me on RH) doesn't know how to pass slightly slower cars and ends up hitting you, making crazy dives because they have to get to their spot again in the race progression. They get crazy boosts on their out laps and if you don't get out of the way, you get moved out of the way. Getting a better corner exit and passing on the straight is an alien concept to the AI. They either boost past or dive into a corner to make a pass.

I set the difficulty to normal for the Kyoto race, no clue anymore what is fast and slow with GT7's difficulty settings. Maybe that mellowed the AI out a bit, there was still barge passing though since the AI did 2 pit stops while I was initially planning on a no stop. Very possible with fuel but I didn't like how my SH front tires were degrading so I pitted halfway for new tires and a bit of fuel to do the rest at FM1 (was driving on FM3 for the first half hour). So I was the slower car again with impatient AI needing to get back to their position window driving behind me.

It seems you just have to get out of their way to let them pass like you're blue flagged or else they just get more and more belligerent until they get past. Maybe it's because they're falling further behind their intended spot for the time in the race, and thus get more and more boost applied which results in bad moves and collisions. Hell has no fury like an AI behind their time table.

Anyway, try defensive driving against an AI that pits early and ends up behind you. See what moves they try and how it ramps up in aggression until they simply move you out of the way. The AI is fine when it's in the place it has to be according to whatever race schedule they adhere to. When behind due to a a pit stop, they get boosted and start doing crazy things. It's not racing, it's figuring out their time table and have a better car setup to out pace their time table.
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My approach in these Races is always the chilled out Variant.
I never go full Beans Mode from the get go.
1 Hour is quite a Long Time and I‘m not willing to drive on the Edge from Start to Finish.
I‘m more like an old Turtle on the Track, I choose my overtakes wisely and play it patient.
I don’t force overtakes in dangerous Situations, but even if I decide to do, in 99.999% of the cases I manage to get contact free side by side racing Action through multiple Corner Sections with the AI.
I always pay high attention to give the AI enough space when doing so, and they give it back surprisingly.
And keep in mind I always play in Cockpit View Wobble2 with no HUD or Radar, online as offline.
And I almost never end up being pushed off track.
Of course it happened to me, but it was my optimistic Believe that it‘ll stick in that Case. I should have known better 😅
I also always keep my Car BELOW the recommended PP Level.
Otherwise it‘ll be no real Challenge.
I don’t fancy winning as fast as possible or blast through the opposition, I try to make it as close and entertaining as possible.
And of course not getting any Major or avoidable Contacts during the race.
Of course at times, it happens that a bit of slight rubbing occurs but in that Case it’s down to the AI 😊

They are very optimistic to say the least 😅
But other than that it’s always very fair and clean.
Oh and by the way, I never noticed that rubber banding thing you and many others talk about.
This is crazy.
Almost like we’re playing two completely different Games, it’s beyond me.
Of course when I’m in the Lead on worn out rubber and the AI behind me decides to pit I do notice that after they leave the pits their lap times are faster than mine, but nothing unusual as they are on fresh Rubber and therefore logically able to put down faster lap times.
But not like they suddenly are flying and putting down ridiculous fast times.
Not once, and 99% of my Play time is SP Mode, I had the feeling that the AI is cheating. And I’ve already driven way over 30K Kilometers.
No grinding, just pure driving and Entertainment.
I can’t stand Grinding, never did that, most probably never will.
I just can’t motivate myself doing a race over and over unless I find it entertaining and enjoyable.
Yes, their pace varies depending on their tire/fuel Situation so to me it’s always perfectly balanced and comprehensible.
Sometimes they push harder and other times they take it easy. Pretty much exactly the same how I use to drive.
I try to drive accordingly to my Tire/Fuel Situation.
If I feel I could push and tighten up my pace, I do so.
Other times I just conserve Fuel and do very late Downshifting to preserve my tires.
The Races are always very Strategic.
I NEVER treat them as a Time Trial or chase the Rabbit Style of Approach.
I don’t know, maybe that more relaxed Incentive I use is the Key to my overall extremely pleasant Experience in these Races and with the AI in General.
So far as I can remember I have completed and golded all of the Single Player Stuff besides some stupid Missions which I absolutely don’t fancy…looking at you “Cone Challenge“ what the hell, nah let’s leave that for another Topic 😅
To me personally you’re a GT Legend with your Thousands and Thousands of Sport Mode Races.
I always take your Word very Seriously and would never question your Statements and Experiences, but in this Case it just baffles me how far our Impressions go apart.
But anyway, probably some of my Thoughts might give you some Incentive to take another approach and see for yourself if it maybe makes some difference.
Because I‘ve quit playing Sport Mode a Long Time ago.
It must have been somewhere around the point when Dailies became Weeklies 😅 God, when was it 2018?!
FIA was ok occasionally but seriously I’m just to nice to these People.
I treat them as if they were AI. Live, and let live
I always believe in pride and honor on Track and guess what I get back 😂
They are worse than AI.
Actually I’m the complete opposite in real life as that’s what counts, but hell tryharding in a Video Game against Randoms, no thanks 😁
I‘m here for Fun and Single Player delivers Big Time in that Regard.
I fukin love it 🤩
 
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I'v decided just to grind credits until the BMW Mclaren 95 comes out. Have about 17.2 Million. I'll transition into something else after that. Probably going for gold in Circuit Experience. Have mostly Bronze right now.
 
PirovacBoy
My approach in these Races is always the chilled out Variant.
I never go full Beans Mode from the get go.
1 Hour is quite a Long Time and I‘m not willing to drive on the Edge from Start to Finish.
I‘m more like an old Turtle on the Track, I choose my overtakes wisely and play it patient.
I don’t force overtakes in dangerous Situations, but even if I decide to do, in 99.999% of the cases I manage to get contact free side by side racing Action through multiple Corner Sections with the AI.
I always pay high attention to give the AI enough space when doing so, and they give it back surprisingly.
And keep in mind I always play in Cockpit View Wobble2 with no HUD or Radar, online as offline.
And I almost never end up being pushed off track.
Of course it happened to me, but it was my optimistic Believe that it‘ll stick in that Case. I should have known better 😅
I also always keep my Car BELOW the recommended PP Level.
Otherwise it‘ll be no real Challenge.
I don’t fancy winning as fast as possible or blast through the opposition, I try to make it as close and entertaining as possible.
And of course not getting any Major or avoidable Contacts during the race.
Of course at times, it happens that a bit of slight rubbing occurs but in that Case it’s down to the AI 😊

They are very optimistic to say the least 😅
But other than that it’s always very fair and clean.
Oh and by the way, I never noticed that rubber banding thing you and many others talk about.
This is crazy.
Almost like we’re playing two completely different Games, it’s beyond me.
Of course when I’m in the Lead on worn out rubber and the AI behind me decides to pit I do notice that after they leave the pits their lap times are faster than mine, but nothing unusual as they are on fresh Rubber and therefore logically able to put down faster lap times.
But not like they suddenly are flying and putting down ridiculous fast times.
Not once, and 99% of my Play time is SP Mode, I had the feeling that the AI is cheating. And I’ve already driven way over 30K Kilometers.
No grinding, just pure driving and Entertainment.
I can’t stand Grinding, never did that, most probably never will.
I just can’t motivate myself doing a race over and over unless I find it entertaining and enjoyable.
Yes, their pace varies depending on their tire/fuel Situation so to me it’s always perfectly balanced and comprehensible.
Sometimes they push harder and other times they take it easy. Pretty much exactly the same how I use to drive.
I try to drive accordingly to my Tire/Fuel Situation.
If I feel I could push and tighten up my pace, I do so.
Other times I just conserve Fuel and do very late Downshifting to preserve my tires.
The Races are always very Strategic.
I NEVER treat them as a Time Trial or chase the Rabbit Style of Approach.
I don’t know, maybe that more relaxed Incentive I use is the Key to my overall extremely pleasant Experience in these Races and with the AI in General.
So far as I can remember I have completed and golded all of the Single Player Stuff besides some stupid Missions which I absolutely don’t fancy…looking at you “Cone Challenge“ what the hell, nah let’s leave that for another Topic 😅
To me personally you’re a GT Legend with your Thousands and Thousands of Sport Mode Races.
I always take your Word very Seriously and would never question your Statements and Experiences, but in this Case it just baffles me how far our Impressions go apart.
But anyway, probably some of my Thoughts might give you some Incentive to take another approach and see for yourself if it maybe makes some difference.
Because I‘ve quit playing Sport Mode a Long Time ago.
It must have been somewhere around the point when Dailies became Weeklies 😅 God, when was it 2018?!
FIA was ok occasionally but seriously I’m just to nice to these People.
I treat them as if they were AI. Live, and let live
I always believe in pride and honor on Track and guess what I get back 😂
They are worse than AI.
Actually I’m the complete opposite in real life as that’s what counts, but hell tryharding in a Video Game against Randoms, no thanks 😁
I‘m here for Fun and Single Player delivers Big Time in that Regard.
I fukin love it 🤩
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I normally treat the AI like they're real drivers as well, contact free is the way to go. However it gets harder and harder to respect a bunch of cheats lol. Then the Tokyo grind is a good 'break room' to share my feelings with Kokubun and his cronies :lol:

I always start slow as well and never have problem overtaking. It's when the AI gets angsty and wants to overtake, either because they pit before me, already are a lap or more behind and suddenly don't want to drop back further, or when they change their mind after you pass them an they suddenly find the gas pedal again.

Today I did the Autopolis 1H race, another relaxed drive into the sunset. (Seems only Tsukaba and RBR have rain?) I had picked a car before 1.13 came out, had it all set up, 399pp, I enter the race, and now the car is 414pp lol. I do some quick adjustments, HP down to 80. I start the race and the AI behind me barges through, drives off leaving me in the dust. At the end of lap 1 I'm down to 20th watching the race disappear in the distance. FL was 2:25 by the AI, I quit seeing it go nowhere.

I tuned the car differently, close ratio transmission reduces PP while that's all you need, and I went with the stanard brakes to be able to get HP up to 87. Still slower acceleration and top speed as the AI but better able to keep up. I set the difficulty to easy this time, which seemed to help. AI FL was 2:26 this race.

The AI was actually the best it has been so far. I normally don't drive slower cars and maybe it's true they get worse the faster the cars are they need to handle. Most of my experience is PP 800 and higher. Anyway, I had a decent duel with Yamanaka which actually resembled something like racing. I passed him in the corners, he drove by again on the straights with higher top speed. Fine, all contact free, side by side was no issue. I guess the AI was in its spot so didn't need to do crazy stuff.

After a while Yamanaka dropped back and out of range then I closed in on Fraga for a bit of a duel. Fraga did resort to a dive bomb to get ahead again, instead of simply driving by me on the next straight. Anyway I saw it coming, let him through and simply undercut him to take the position again. Fraga then just drove past me with faster acceleration and top speed. No clue why the dive bomb.

Fraga gave up as well after a while, actually they all did. The AI was lapping 2:26 at the start until holding steady at 24 sec ahead of me. One by one the grid started slowing down during the race letting me pass. I was lapping 2:29, 2:28 all race long like clockwork. Managed a high 2:27 once while drafting but generally around 2:29. The AI kept slowing down, letting me get close, then speeding up again going out ahead a bit (Fraga toying with me) and eventually dropping back.

The front maintained a 23/24 sec lead for 2/3rd of the race, then they slowed down. With 6 minutes left, me still going the same pace like clockwork, the AI gave me the lead and dropped a further 12 seconds back before the finish. Yay I guess?

It was a relaxing drive in the sunset, but I can't call it a race. It's either marginally interactive pylons to pass during the race, or ravenous beasts when they're behind their race schedule and need to boost ahead. As for difficulty and GT, I have no idea anymore. It's all over the place.

1.2 mil collected, 10.5 mil spend on the McLaren F1 BMW, wasn't that 450K in GT Sport? Big refresh in the UCD but only one car I didn't have yet. The all bronze car reward for human comedy was also a pre 2000 car, so 15 left to collect. Slow going.
 
Managed to cross another couple of CE off my list (Horse Thief Mile, Colorado Springs).

Glad to be back on my G29; I had to switch the brake and the clutch in the end.
 

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