Wheel V Pad

[rosckolove]

Nice vids Ridox 👍 A few scary moments at suz Thanks for sharing.

Common now Roscko, enough with the silly talk, lets see something.

I replied to you and I asked you a question. I previously stated i'm not able to access a PS3 all the time (this being one of those times) am i going to have to quote myself every post with previously mentioned info in anticipation of your ridiculous comments? (no need to reply)

What is your best attempt in that car? (insert reply here)

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Nice vids Ridox 👍 A few scary moments at suz Thanks for sharing.

Haha, thanks for that, yeah that McLaren F1 run was full of pressure, the last heavy braking into Casio Chicane is the highlight of the lap, I can't believe I managed to trail brake that late and still in control

 

[arora]

Zero attempts made

I am not the one making silly claims with excuses, lets see something LOL

 

[rosckolove]

You are unbelievable man, you really are.

Have you ever raced me? Have you ever talked to anyone that has? You have no reason (except your own uninformed opinion) to say any of my claims are silly. You have no idea (except people you have raced with or seen replays of) what people on this forum are capable of. I never said I was the best, but i do happen to be really, really fast around the Nurburgring in cars of my choice. I understand that I have yet to prove it, but I stated I would, I just can't at this exact moment. Learn some respect, and stop being foolish. I never judge anyones speed unless I have proof, you have none whatsoever.

seriously man, for your own sake, just stop. When I do prove my claims (they aren't even that hard to believe if you have any type of skill) you will feel awfully stupid for all of your ranting..... LOL

You have yet to post what your best time is in the TVR..........

 

[arora]

Seriously tl;dr.

I will not stop, you need to put something up.

 

[rosckolove]

You are a horrible attribution to this site lol.. You claim its for the betterment haha.
Anyway man, go on if you choose. It will only get worse for you.

I assume you are ashamed of your TVR time?

Come to think of it, do you have any idea what game version was being run for that lap?

 

[arora]

You are a horrible attribution to this site lol.. You claim its for the betterment haha.
Anyway man, go on if you choose. It will only get worse for you.

I assume you are ashamed of your TVR time?

Come to think of it, do you have any idea when that TVR lap was recorded? Any idea what game version was being run?

LOL I may not be liked by some around here but I am far from a horrible attribution as you say. It is for the betterment to rid the sight of the type of b.s. you provide.

I am ashamed of nothing, I have not tried the tvr lap. Yes I know when it was recorded, do you think older versions of the game lend to faster laps? LOL Defo not for pad users anyway, I'd say all laps on previous versions tend to be slower by nature.

Show us something remotely close to the claims you make in regard to your driving prowess, simple.

And just for Ridox, or you if you want to cry some more, here is me back in the day, it was a board challenge and I was using pad, good enough for a podium finish. Not really the point though, even then I was not considered upper tear pad user, all the same it's me and I'm far from ashamed to post it, and also of course I have it at my disposal.

 

[rosckolove]

LOL I may not be liked by some around here but I am far from a horrible attribution as you say. It is for the betterment to rid the sight of the type of b.s. you provide.

I can't imagine why people wouldn't like you Can you please explain and prove anything i have said as B.S.

I am ashamed of nothing, I have not tried the tvr lap. Yes I know when it was recorded, do you think older versions of the game lend to faster laps? LOL Defo not for pad users anyway, I'd say all laps on previous versions tend to be slower by nature.

I will for sure not take your word for it, since you seem to be less then knowledgeable in many aspects. I was under the impression that previous versions of the game were indeed faster than what is achievable now, thats why the current Nurburgring leaderboards are being redone, and it states that it must be on the latest version (why would it state that if every previous version was slower??) And it being a wheel or pad isn't part of this ^^ debate. If holland was on a pad or a wheel, if faster times were achievable back then, it doesn't matter if wheel or pad is being used now because no matter what its not a fair comparison. (Not that i think i can best his time anyway) <-- i added that to suppress and stupid comments coming my way about how i NEVER said i was the best. You have a knack for those comments.

Show us something remotely close to the claims you make in regard to your driving prowess, simple.

How many times do i have to cover this? Can you read? Can you comprehend sentences written in English? Just for one second try and wrap your brain around this... What happens when i do post the video? Whats YOUR excuse going to be then?

And just for Ridox, or you if you want to cry some more, here is me back in the day, it was a board challenge and I was using pad, good enough for a podium finish. Not really the point though, even then I was not considered upper tear pad user, all the same it's me and I'm far from ashamed to post it, and also of course I have it at my disposal.

You are only making me laugh. I am surprised you can't see that. I'm sure its very obvious, well probably not for you..

 

[arora]

Can you please explain and prove anything i have said as B.S.

Not sharing a replay is enough for me.

I will for sure not take your word for it, since you seem to be less then knowledgeable in many aspects. I was under the impression that previous versions of the game were indeed faster than what is achievable now, thats why the current Nurburgring leaderboards are being redone, and it states that it must be on the latest version

Umm, when Dan's lap was done, the game yielded slower times, not sure about iterations inbetween. Latest version? Fine, show us ffs.

And it being a wheel or pad isn't part of this ^^ debate.

Remind me the thread title again please?

If holland was on a pad or a wheel, if faster times were achievable back then, it doesn't matter if wheel or pad is being used now because no matter what its not a fair comparison. (Not that i think i can best his time anyway) <-- i added that to suppress and stupid comments coming my way about how i NEVER said i was the best. You have a knack for those comments.

Dan is equally fast on pad and wheel, maybe back then he considered wheel faster then pad but I've seen him first hand use whichever is faster. I promise two things, wheel is faster then pad with today's updates, and yes Dan is faster then you.

How many times do i have to cover this? Can you read? Can you comprehend sentences written in English?

Nope, everything you say goes right over my head.

You are only making me laugh. I am surprised you can't see that. I'm sure its very obvious, well probably not for you..

Yup, if I where in your shoes I could only laugh also, I'll say it again then.

SHOW US THESE TIMES WITH REPLAYS.

 

[rosckolove]

Not sharing a replay is enough for me.

How is having a lack of proof suddenly turn into proof of anything?

Remind me the thread title again please?

Seeing how this is going, I assume you must need help with your own arguments quite often. Let me point out that we are having an argument about the validity of lap times. Wheel or not is no longer important..

Dan is equally fast on pad and wheel, maybe back then he considered wheel faster then pad but I've seen him first hand use whichever is faster. I promise two things, wheel is faster then pad with today's updates, and yes Dan is faster then you.

You just contradicted yourself in one paragraph. Dan is equally as fast on pad or wheel but then you state that wheels are faster? Are you saying dholland doesn't know how to use his wheel correctly? Ofcourse your not. But try and think a little before you rant.

Nope, everything you say goes right over my head.

Thats obvious, and your reply will only prove so more.

Yup, if I where in your shoes I could only laugh also, I'll say it again then.

SHOW US THESE TIMES WITH REPLAYS.

I will, as soon as i can, i can't at this moment. <-- Dictionary.com will help you with this sentence. I know its a lot of reading but i'm sure you can get through it.

Can you please stop trolling. I made a claim that you simply can't believe, and i plan to prove it as soon as i can. You are really crossing the line in many ways. Your cluttering this thread with your nonsense, your hardly even reply correctly, you can't prove anything your saying about me. Your not allowed to use "FFS" and all that other text speak crap i have to look up to understand, because i don't waste my entire day trolling video game forums getting upset that someone made a claim that i can't even get close to.

I have more than covered everything you said and replied to it correctly, i doubt you will see it that way, and i doubt you will stop. Just go on repeating yourself, i have come to the conclusion that you are beyond reason, and you will never move forward in this conversation. I will just have to ignore your insults and rants.

One last thing though.. If i autograph something and send it to a P.O. box or something will that get you off my sack? You really, really like my attention. Its unhealthy.

 

[arora]

How is having a lack of proof suddenly turn into proof of anything?

LOL, are you serious?

Seeing how this is going, I assume you must need help with your own arguments quite often. Let me point out that we are having an argument about the validity of lap times.

wut? We are trying to discuss if a wheel or pad is faster in gt5 at present state. The fact you say you are faster with a pad then whoever you race against with a wheel is laughable at best.

You just contradicted yourself in one paragraph. Dan is equally as fast on pad or wheel but then you state that wheels are faster? Are you saying dholland doesn't know how to use his wheel correctly? Ofcourse your not. But try and think a little before you rant.

Of course not, he is equally fast with a wheel as he is with a pad relative to all comers(maybe not some of the new hot shot jpn guys)

I'm pretty sure the rest of your post is dribble. Here is the thing, wheel is still faster then pad, still better with tire ware as well. whatever it is you seem to like rambling about has more to do with how fast you think you are without any proof.

I will wait and I'm quite patient about it too, a month, a year, lets see some replays or vids. I doubt we will see them.

 

[rosckolove]

Your right about everything, i was stupid for ever arguing with you... what was i thinking. Glad this is settled..... Right?

 

[arora]

I'm far from being right about everything, but I'm right on calling you out for your less then thought out whatever you want to call it.

 

[rosckolove]

Yup. Your right about everything. You win. You can leave this conversation with a sense of victory. Thanks for setting me straight.

 

[arora]

There are no personal victories when all you wish to accomplish is having the truth available for the people you are associated with.

 

[rosckolove]

edit- waste of time and effort. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[phil_75]

Chill out guys, a good distraction for the time being, here are some videos of my practice run with a DS2 pad, wheels users would have no trouble beating any of these, I presume.

All done with no ABS or any other aids, comfort medium tires, stock condition.
Not a challenge, just giving a chance for wheels users to beat a DS2 user for fun and killing boredom.


Lamborghini Countach 25Th Anniversary '88 at Rome, 1:23.518
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QafTYRyTOl4">YouTube Link</a>

McLaren F1 '94 at Suzuka, 2:28.438
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8WviImBHw">YouTube Link</a>

Ferrari 599 at London Reverse, 1:04.077
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goo0Qj_KlD0">YouTube Link</a>

Maserati GranTurismo S '08 at Motegi Full Road Course, 2:22.683
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTdz13JCY8c">YouTube Link</a>

Ferrari 458 Italia at Monza Rain, 2:07.xxx
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdPsEHcttJ0">YouTube Link</a>

Ignore these videos if you are not keen on no ABS driving and using comfort medium

Cracking driving!

PS: its DS3:-P

 

[rosckolove]

He uses a DS2

 

[Lock2Lock]

You will not find any apologies here, you are clearly trolling, nothing more.

I can edit too

Weak, what probably happened is you saw some yt like this and said to yourself "surely he is loosing time with all that sliding and there is an off, I'll just take a stab that 10 sec quicker is doable"

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLIo0UHH1MU">YouTube Link</a>

Maybe not, but I'll be waiting for your proof of lap 👍

Hey i have a quick question about that CSL. I use the same wheel you have. Would you mind either sharing the car or mind duplicating it to me so I can try it. I am not a ignorant kid that will take your car and tune and claim it to be mine either. I just want to try something. No big deal if you don't want to.

Your right about everything, i was stupid for ever arguing with you... what was i thinking. Glad this is settled..... Right?

I mean just wait till you can get on your ps3 don't worry about it right now.

I was reading all of that thinking about this because you both looked like

Sorry about the edits i have no idea how I screwed that up that bad

 

[arora]

Ignorance is bliss.

Explains your happiness. I can keep with the digs as long as you like.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Cracking driving!

PS: its DS3:-P

Thanks for the compliment , the most fun driving were the 599, 458, countach and the McLaren F1 ( casio save ), hell all of them were fun.

He uses a DS2

The old stick perform better than the new one I really love the face buttons, dial any input percentage at a whim, of course it took a lot of practice, and I never look back to DS3.

 

[carracerptp]

Well this thread has gone downhill...
I gave my CSL a go based on the setting given, I don't use RS that often but that time is not going to happen with my tune.My tune was bad for the track but still, that 27s isn't doable, if it is then it must be all tune in the tune (not sure how but I have seen some fast tunes).
Any chance of an online race? I would like to see just how fast that car is.

 

[Lock2Lock]

Well this thread has gone downhill...
I gave my CSL a go based on the setting given, I don't use RS that often but that time is not going to happen with my tune.My tune was bad for the track but still, that 27s isn't doable, if it is then it must be all tune in the tune.
Any chance of an online race? I would like to see just how fast that car is.

I wonder if he will let me try that car.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

You all can get him to race online on the track and with the said car, see if he can do those times and win, simple as ....

 

[arora]

Hey i have a quick question about that CSL. I use the same wheel you have. Would you mind either sharing the car or mind duplicating it to me so I can try it. I am not a ignorant kid that will take your car and tune and claim it to be mine either. I just want to try something. No big deal if you don't want to.

Sorry for any confusion, that is not me driving, it's just a yt vid I grabbed for the sake of it.

 

[Lock2Lock]

Sorry for any confusion, that is not me driving, it's just a yt vid I grabbed for the sake of it.

Oh ok i guess. I was assuming that you were driving that. Well anyway thanks

 

[rosckolove]

Well this thread has gone downhill...
I gave my CSL a go based on the setting given, I don't use RS that often but that time is not going to happen with my tune.My tune was bad for the track but still, that 27s isn't doable, if it is then it must be all tune in the tune (not sure how but I have seen some fast tunes).
Any chance of an online race? I would like to see just how fast that car is.

I spent A LOT of time tuning the car. I actually think a 6:26 is doable, but thats the absolute max. When i get a chance (probably not for a few days) I will put the CSL I used on share, and whoever wants to can try it (I have the tune posted somewhere already anyway) I will also race whoever wants to, when I get the chance.. I am signed up for a race on Saturday that i still have to qualify for, so I will be on by then for sure.

@arora

Are you getting this whole not possible thing from someone else's youtube video? Or did you fail miserably yourself?

 

[arora]

I can give you a base tune based on my thoughts of that type of car in gt5, take it as you might.

with the r3's lower it a bunch but leave the rear a few to 4 tics higher, set the front spring above 1/2 way and the rear a few to 5 tics lower(10/9.5, something), try shocks at something like 5/6, 6/7, set the rear stab lower then front say 5/4 to start. I'd run camber 2.2/1.0 and no toe front or back.

Just where I would start if you have no reference. May or may not be helpful. Use the tranny trick with topspeed hitting below redline on the back straight.

EDIT: I did not say it was impossible, and if you think that is me driving you are mad. You will never show proof of your time, that is clear. I've not failed at anything LOL If you look back you will see I said "you probably found that vid, subtracted what you thought was reasonable based on his mistakes and claimed a time.

 

[rosckolove]

Found the tune i used. Keep in mind, I use a DS3

BMW M3 CSl

550pp-

no rear wing
stage 3 weight
stage 3 engine
all bolt ons

ballast all the way to the right, no weight added

Suspension-
-3 -7
12.5 12.2
6 6
5 5
3 3

alignment-
2.0 1.5 (i use 1.8 rear now)
0.20 0.20

LSD-
10
20
10

Trans-
final all the way right
top speed all the way left
final back to 2.735
1st. 3.975
2nd. 2.748
3rd. 2.087
4th. 1.666
5th. 1.383
6th. 1.184

Brakes-
6 6

Its clear that i won't show a video? Because i physically can't at the moment? You really lack reason man. Like i said... When i get a chance, by Saturday at the latest. haha... Your a trip man. I just got the video part haha... You are funny.

 

[carracerptp]

Found the tune i used. Keep in mind, I use a DS3

BMW M3 CSl

550pp-

no rear wing
stage 3 weight
stage 3 engine
all bolt ons

ballast all the way to the right, no weight added

Suspension-
-3 -7
12.5 12.2
6 6
5 5
3 3

alignment-
2.0 1.5 (i use 1.8 rear now)
0.20 0.20

LSD-
10
20
10

Trans-
final all the way right
top speed all the way left
final back to 2.735
1st. 3.975
2nd. 2.748
3rd. 2.087
4th. 1.666
5th. 1.383
6th. 1.184

Brakes-
6 6

Its clear that i won't show a video? Because i physically can't at the moment? You really lack reason man. Like i said... When i get a chance, by Saturday at the latest.

Funny, my damper are the same, everything else is much different, I'll try it with both a wheel and DS3.