Why 99.9% of all players won´t gold the Nordschleife Circuit Experience!

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I golded all sectors but haven't tried the 1 lap attack yet, I'm too scared lol

But I imagine it has to be easier than doing 1 sector right? It feels like that in the case of CE overall.
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No, doing a whole lap on the Nordschleife is harder... yes there is more "air" in the gold time... BUT there are a total of 11 sectors that all have to be done together without making a really big mistake... and here lies the difficulty. If you e.g. are pushing too much in the first sectors.. do you quickly fly off in sectors 2-5 because at some point it is just not enough to get these sectors to gold... Or you are fast in the first sectors and fall into a kind of "arrogance" and the merry-go-round hits you with the crash barriers around your ears... Or you notice... the first sectors were too careful/slow and then pushes too much in sector 8-9-10... Here there there are countless points that just don't forgive a "too fast".... Or my classic.. I drive a top lap in the very last meantime, I'm very relaxed 1-2-3 seconds faster than usual.. the lap just has to drive to the end and throw the car away in the very last corner.. a favorite of mine is... too much acceleration out of the last corner a little too early.. the car starts to oversteer and shoots into the guard rail on the right 50 meters from the finish line. The above has already happened to me countless times.... 23km is a damn long distance with countless possibilities.... the individual sectors in comparison are a walk across a street in a pedestrian zone.
 
xMAXIx79
No, doing a whole lap on the Nordschleife is harder... yes there is more "air" in the gold time... BUT there are a total of 11 sectors that all have to be done together without making a really big mistake... and here lies the difficulty. If you e.g. are pushing too much in the first sectors.. do you quickly fly off in sectors 2-5 because at some point it is just not enough to get these sectors to gold... Or you are fast in the first sectors and fall into a kind of "arrogance" and the merry-go-round hits you with the crash barriers around your ears... Or you notice... the first sectors were too careful/slow and then pushes too much in sector 8-9-10... Here there there are countless points that just don't forgive a "too fast".... Or my classic.. I drive a top lap in the very last meantime, I'm very relaxed 1-2-3 seconds faster than usual.. the lap just has to drive to the end and throw the car away in the very last corner.. a favorite of mine is... too much acceleration out of the last corner a little too early.. the car starts to oversteer and shoots into the guard rail on the right 50 meters from the finish line. The above has already happened to me countless times.... 23km is a damn long distance with countless possibilities.... the individual sectors in comparison are a walk across a street in a pedestrian zone.
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Yeah I could see myself doing those things. Especially when my concentration goes down a bit. It doesn't help that I'm not compatible with the car lol
 
The full lap takes a lot of patience, concentration, and overcoming the fear of going off the track. I struggled with the fear part cause I would fly threw the first half knowing I beat my previous time but by the time you get to the last half of the track it’s like I gotta be careful and take it too cautious losing time.
 
I did it today, I'll try it again. There is much to improve.
 

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My boy and me trade times on CE's, missions and licences. Last week, he re-did this and got 6m32.3xx. Yesterday (although having golded this some time ago), I tried to beat him and got down to a 6m32.5xx. There is more time to be had, but not much more.

I would consider myself an alright, medium level driver on this, but in every GT or other game that contains the ring, I do time trials for all cars that I obtain (admittedly on Racing Mediums) so I should know the circuit pretty well. Practice makes perfect is no truer saying when it comes to golding this event (in my eyes).
 
I'm no expert/top driver by any means (mainly lower B, with odd stint in C) and was struggling with CE's. I've found doing them last few weeks after focusing on them during daily races has made them relatively easy. Passed CE's GOld within a few attempts, usually sectors within 1 to 4 goes.

No doubt some harder than others, but simply putting loads of time/laps in so you know course by back of hand (unsurprisingly) makes a massive difference, even when using totally different car.

So I'm content doing 1 CE a week as the circuit appears in Daily Races. If they don;t appear over time, may just start repeating single player races in similar way to get familiarity. Find lapping alone tedious.

Online racing seems to get my hooked into trying to constantly shave 10th's of times, whereas single player I'm a bit more laid back, as you know you can driving loosely and still win, not so much with online races. Online I'm 100% focused, dialed in, trying to perfect lines, braking points, angles etc, watching videos for tips from experts, noting gear changes, lines over and over. I haven;t played gt or any racing games for years, so don;t know many courses that well at all.

The other track I beat, was Brands Hatch, was struggling with it a month or two back, then moved to ACC and probably did about 50 laps on BH getting used to some cars, the game and funny enough come back to GT7 and passed it nearly right away... I may use ACC actually to learn other tracks that are in GT7, as I find I'm more 'dialled' in on ACC, closer state of focus/mind to GT7 online racing.
 
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Finally started this CE last week after hearing so much about it. I have not done the full lap yet, but as usual with any CE, I started with the sectors to get some practice and to get familiar with the car which, in this case, I remember was an oversteery mess in GTS.... :P

To give myself a nice challenge and to help me better prepared for the full lap assault, I wanted to beat the demo in every sector by at least up to the next tenth. By that I mean if the demo is a 0:30.6xx, I would need to do at least a 0:30.5xx.

Sector 3 turned out to be the easiest (met my objective on the very first attempt), and sector 11 was by far the toughest (took me ages).

Not sure if there were any physics changes from patch 1.15 to patch 1.16, but I did sectors 1 – 4 with patch 1.15 and the rest of the sectors with patch 1.16, if that matters.

I’ll be working on the full lap when I get the time. I think I should be able to get gold, but I’m not sure about beating a demo that is almost 10 seconds quicker than the minimum gold time.... 🤔

 
zocker_16
Ok the thread title is a bit controversial but I´ll explain why I say this.:cheers:

I am an experienced Gran Turismo driver with about 20 years in the series. I was successful in many competitions during this time and made it twice to the GT Academy Final in Silverstone. I´m able to do Top 100 lap times in GT Sport and I did thousands of laps around the Nordschleife.
This is my most favourite track and I would consider my times very good there. I´m always within a range of 4-8 seconds to the world records depending on car and class.
So I went for the Nordschleife Circuit Experience and expected a one try gold. This wasn't the case and it took me several attempts to beat the gold time of 6:37.800 only by a tenth. The same challenge in GT Sport has a gold time of 6.57.900 so over 20 seconds more, while the car physics in GT7 seem to be about 5 seconds slower per lap.
So I did more laps and tried the best I could do and got a 6:34.090. Of course this lap wasn't perfect and there will be aliens doing sub 6:30 but I guess no average player will ever get close to the gold time.
From the result of past events and daily races on the Nordschleife I guess there are only a few thousand players around the world who could beat this gold time. If we assume GT7 will sell several million copies this are less than 0,1% of all players.

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I've beat (gold) it and everyone's time on my own list including all sectors (golds), which includes some real fast track stars. The M6 didn't make it more difficult I'll add that... and it only took a couple of tries. Not sure what to think about that really.
 
I wrote down checkpoint times from demo-lap (6:28). After that I start training and compairing my checkpoint times and these. Right now I see that at first 3:24 I'm losing 3.3 seconds to demo-lap. At the next 2:19 I'm losing 8.0 seconds, what a shame. At last 0:44 I'm losing only 0.6 seconds...
So I see that losing 8.0 is too many during sectors 6-10, and losing 5.6 will be enough for gold. Need to shave 2.4+ seconds at these sectors
 
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I wrote down checkpoint times from demo-lap (6:28). After that I start training and compairing my checkpoint times and these. Right now I see that at first 3:24 I'm losing 3.3 seconds to demo-lap. At the next 2:19 I'm losing 8.0 seconds, what a shame. At last 0:44 I'm losing only 0.6 seconds...
So I see that losing 8.0 is too many during sectors 6-10, and losing 5.6 will be enough for gold. Need to shave 2.4+ seconds at these sectors
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But you can't compare it like that, because the checkpoints for the individual CE sectors don't match the checkpoints for the whole lap, so you can neither compare it like that nor simply add up the individual sectors. You can do that very well too. see the transition from S10 to S11, there are already a few seconds missing from the normal lap.
The only way for me to see if I'm doing well in the race compared to my individual sectors is to compare speeds at key points. My friends always smile about me, but I pay attention and I know that when I'm 10 km/h away from my optimum in a curve, I've just lost at least 0.3 to 0.5 seconds (at the Döttingerhöhe there is even a difference of almost 2 seconds at 10 km/h difference at my own important checkpoint ).

In principle, I can tell you the speed that I drive there with the BMW for every corner on the ring, both my maximum and a good average. If I am much too slow at one point, e.g. due to braking or slipping, then I stop the lap immediately, because I can no longer set a good time, but no OK.

Unfortunately, the ring has many corners where you can really waste time.
 
xMAXIx79
But you can't compare it like that, because the checkpoints for the individual CE sectors don't match the checkpoints for the whole lap, so you can neither compare it like that nor simply add up the individual sectors
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I wrote down checkpoint times from demonstration lap of WHOLE LAP (6:28). And I compare my checkpoint times at the WHOLE LAP with these times. Or my english is so bad that it was not clearly said above?
6th checkpoint: AI time is 3.24.3, my is 3.27.6
10th: AI 5.43.7, my is 5.55.0
Understand?
 
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Or my translation back from English to German wasn't that great, which is often the case, sometimes you still have to guess what was meant.

But I think I understood you now, which sectors you meant.
Stay tuned, you can still do it.. how well do you get along in the individual sectors?


Maybe a general question!!!

Do you also value your individual sector times, or is it just the whole lap that counts for you?
I like to grind just the individual sectors from time to time, which helps me to become faster and safer bit by bit and piece by piece.
 
xMAXIx79
Stay tuned, you can still do it.. how well do you get along in the individual sectors?

Do you also value your individual sector times, or is it just the whole lap that counts for you?
I like to grind just the individual sectors from time to time, which helps me to become faster and safer bit by bit and piece by piece.
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Individual sectors are gold. About whole lap: as I mentioned earlier my pace at second half of the lap is bad - AI's cumulative time of sectors 7,8,9,10 is 2:19 and I lose him 8 seconds here which is too many. So I need to train individual sectors 7-10 again
 
EnzoRacer
Individual sectors are gold. About whole lap: as I mentioned earlier my pace at second half of the lap is bad - AI's cumulative time of sectors 7,8,9,10 is 2:19 and I lose him 8 seconds here which is too many. So I need to train individual sectors 7-10 again
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I'm sure you can do it. Some of my friends are also desperate because they have had little experience on this track... but they have practiced and not been discouraged. They did it and so can you. I cross my fingers for you.

My advice:
Concentrate on S8 complete + S9 complete + the exit from S10 to Döttingerhöhe. These are neuralgic points and can cost a lot of time, but also give an incredible amount of time.
In my experience, S8 is particularly critical.. there is a lot of potential for small errors that add up enormously. In S8 alone you can find between getting through OK and getting through really well well and gladly 2 seconds maybe even more.
 
Beat the demo last night with a time of 6:27.594. My goal has always been to beat the demos with these CE's or license tests, but I wasn't sure about this one as it is so much faster than the minimum gold time, so I'm glad I was still able to do it.

I almost threw the lap away though coming out of Kleines Karussell, and I think I was only about 2 tenths up on the demo at the end of sector 10 coming onto Döttinger Höhe, but I ended up beating it by half a second at the finish, which was a surprise. I must have gained 3 tenths going through the Hohenrain chicane and the final turn, even though I braked a tad too late for the Hohenrain chicane.

I will give it more try to see if I can put in a lap that I’ll be reasonably happy with while breaking my own record at the same time. If not, I think I will shelve this one for a while now until maybe after I complete the game.

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Wolfman_UK
My boy and me trade times on CE's, missions and licences. Last week, he re-did this and got 6m32.3xx. Yesterday (although having golded this some time ago), I tried to beat him and got down to a 6m32.5xx. There is more time to be had, but not much more.

I would consider myself an alright, medium level driver on this, but in every GT or other game that contains the ring, I do time trials for all cars that I obtain (admittedly on Racing Mediums) so I should know the circuit pretty well. Practice makes perfect is no truer saying when it comes to golding this event (in my eyes).
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That’s funny because I’m the same way with my friend too. First the CEs were hard, then I come back to them after getting gold on them weeks, (even months) ago and improve my time in 1-2 tries. I’ve improved my Nurburgring time 2 times, a little over two seconds faster lol, then suddenly he posts a time .400 seconds faster lol. The CEs really did the job of making me drive better.
 
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That’s funny because I’m the same way with my friend too. First the CEs were hard, then I come back to them after getting gold on them weeks, (even months) ago and improve my time in 1-2 tries. I’ve improved my Nurburgring time 2 times, a little over two seconds faster lol, then suddenly he posts a time .400 seconds faster lol. The CEs really did the job of making me drive better.
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But you must not forget that the patches on the tires improved grip, which made many vehicles significantly faster.
 
So I haven't read through this whole thread.....has the sentiment changed since it was originally written or am I actually in the 0.1 percentile lol? Because I just Golded the circuit experience on my 2nd run. Did an overly careful practice run and did a 6:42. Went right to another and did a 6:35.2. Wasn't super clean but it was decent and what I would call slightly cautious just because I didn't want to foul up such a long lap. Oh and I'm on using the controller, I'd have to imagine if I was using a wheel I'd easily have been able to shave quite a few seconds off.

I still have to go and do all the individual sectors, but I don't imagine it should be a problem.

I'm A/S ranked but I have to think that 99.9% claim is not accurate.
 
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Famine
There's several reasons, not just because it's hard.

Most won't ever bother with it, for starters. It's also not necessary at any point in the game - not even to get the Platinum, even if you care about Platinum.
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Oh-it’s very necessary. I’m a stubborn son-of-gun.

Once I’ve sorted my Honda NSX Type R ‘02 from the Honda NSX Type R ‘92 I’ll be heading over to the Nordschleife for punishment. 😂

“Repetition is the mother of skill”
 

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