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After doing some more A/B'ing, these games really aren't worth comparing endlessly as they both please the senses in a very similar way. Just pick one and start racing.
Will GT7 Get Left behind when Forza Motorsports 8 hits the Market?
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Some of yall act like you're on PD's payroll and receive a payout when it bests another game...
You should want Forza to stomp all over GT7... That's good for us as consumers. I want improved physics, FFB and improved online play. I want an improved penalty system versus what we have in GT7.
And guess what my perfect little geniuses, IF Forza delivers on those things, that's a new precedent. That's a new bar that PD will need to clear so that they don't look stupid when GT8 debuts.
Competition is good for US AS CONSUMERS!!!! Read that 20x more times until it sinks in!
But judging by the way many of you grab ankles for Kaz and defend his every action/inaction, you aren't concerned about getting the best Gran Turismo we can get. You just want to boast that "your fav game" is superior.
GT7 is a good game but flawed. It bests Forza in some ways and that's great, it gives their devs something to aspire too. This new Forza is great because of GT7... Hopefully GT8 will be improved and great because of improvements made by Forza.
You should want Forza to stomp all over GT7... That's good for us as consumers. I want improved physics, FFB and improved online play. I want an improved penalty system versus what we have in GT7.
And guess what my perfect little geniuses, IF Forza delivers on those things, that's a new precedent. That's a new bar that PD will need to clear so that they don't look stupid when GT8 debuts.
Competition is good for US AS CONSUMERS!!!! Read that 20x more times until it sinks in!
But judging by the way many of you grab ankles for Kaz and defend his every action/inaction, you aren't concerned about getting the best Gran Turismo we can get. You just want to boast that "your fav game" is superior.
GT7 is a good game but flawed. It bests Forza in some ways and that's great, it gives their devs something to aspire too. This new Forza is great because of GT7... Hopefully GT8 will be improved and great because of improvements made by Forza.
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FM could be stomping and make GT7 look like a 0/10 and PD wouldnt care at all.
GT is always following its own path, wherever that leads to.
There simply is no competition between them - and no, competition is not always good for customers.
The one with cash will simply swallow and neglect all the good things the competitors have had to offer when they are not easily compatible.
Like Aureal Vortex A3D was vastly superior over anything Creative (SoundBlaster) had on the tables, yet they were the smaller company and as good lawyers like to do for the wealthy side, sue them out of competition even when the legal case was not existing.
No money, no competition.
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There's absolutely competition between them in terms of financial success/revenue/sales, etc. Don't think of it in terms of machismo and bragging rights... Games drive people to purchase consoles. I purchased an Xbox because of Starfield and if Forza continues to improve and offers a better online racing experience, I might pick it up. People (if they can afford to) have options and can choose NOT to buy the next GT. So, yes, they are in competition for sales. That's not debatable.
Sales are driven (pun) by features. And if Forza is debuting features (their penalty system is in a diff league than GT7's), PD's developers will take notice (hopefully). Reviewers take note of such things and it forms public opinion. It'll be in PD's best interest to keep up. The fact that this thread even exists shows that people are taking notice.
But maybe they think their fanbase are a bunch of idiots and will buy whatever they're given. Judging by the Kaz/PD defense force on this forum, they're probably right lol.
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Amen to that
One of the first to talk sense.
I have been trying to state that I and tired tyres have very many hours into FM and apart from little minor issues the game is amazing I have pointed out the positives, it is missing certain things GT7 has but as the details even on GTplanet state about the game content is going to be added month on month.
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15-25 is the worst car models but there is others thats decent but not quite up to the same standard as latest cars they added, i already Said this earlier in the thread, i didint say the exact cars but its very noticable when you look at the different cars most of jdm limeup is not that great quality wise, Nissan Silvia s15, Nissan skyline r32 is the worst in the lineup, they fixed the Subaru impresa 22b through, i am not saying the game is bad becouse of this, i want to see how the updates plays out, in the coming months, might be worth picking up,later right now their is just not enough single player content at least for my taste, i would also,like to,see the upgrade system to,change not a big fan of this system at all
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You said a pretty exact range. Just wondering where you got that from because I've heard that from no one else but you. If anything, all the beating around the bush you're doing has made it pretty clear for me either way.
I can live with a 5% discrepancy. They have bigger issues to deal with I feel, that that is more or less a non-issue for me. If they can manage to flesh out the career and sort out the Carxp thing then that's great, because as it sits, the racing in GT7 has left much to be desired.
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Yes, thanks for the regurgitation without actually supplying anything. Doesn't really help any. I'm not shocked that cars introduced during the late Xbox One series of games(or just Xbox One in general) got carried over, most seem fine. I'm asking for the 70-80 that are said to be straight from Xbox 360. That's not a number I've heard thrown around at all, anywhere. Curious as to where that came from and what they are.
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I much prefer the ability to remove the restrictor plates from race cars rather than adding a weightless turbo or supercharger to even NA race cars like GT7 does. The Toyota GT-One can get 952HP just removing the restrictions at level 1. Oh and upgrades aren’t permanent so you don’t have to buy another car just to run it stock again, what an idea!
I’ve done more grinding than likely 99% of GT7 players and the in-game economy for FM is a work of art compared to the half-realistic mess that GT is. Ok you can’t un-bore a cylinder or unpolish the ports but we can’t switch out the camshaft?! The game even switches out the high compression pistons if you add a turbo or supercharger but not if you want to just remove them without adding forced induction!
Edit: fixed HP number, 952HP rather than “over 800HP”
I’ve done more grinding than likely 99% of GT7 players and the in-game economy for FM is a work of art compared to the half-realistic mess that GT is. Ok you can’t un-bore a cylinder or unpolish the ports but we can’t switch out the camshaft?! The game even switches out the high compression pistons if you add a turbo or supercharger but not if you want to just remove them without adding forced induction!
Edit: fixed HP number, 952HP rather than “over 800HP”
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Asking for evidence is being in denial? He's already well aware the game uses old assets, what he's asking is the clarification of the "70-80" number & then the user can only bring up 3.
There won't be. The worst offenders are already well known, but folks like him & the other user I've quoted like phrasing it as if the models have not been touched at all in the last 10 years, when it's quite clear that while the models are old, T10 or whomever is still applying some sort of update to the model scan.
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Whatever this problem with models everyone seems to be having I'll remind you of the standard car issue of GT5 and 6. This is a literal nothing problem.
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The thing about which game has or hasn’t got what, either game isn’t revolutionary.
Look, if we go back, I mean we’re always going back with both franchises, GT could bore up the Skyline engine. We also had Racing Modifications and a whole host of rare and exotic machines and kei cars. Forza games have gameplay features GT didn’t have and livery editor since forever.
I stand by my first post, two months after GT7 debuted:
This thread can turn into another Forza vs GT thread, just amend the title, but it ain’t. I feel Forza chatter should slide over to the Forza threads by now. If players want to know more about the game, there are more information being shared there.
Look, if we go back, I mean we’re always going back with both franchises, GT could bore up the Skyline engine. We also had Racing Modifications and a whole host of rare and exotic machines and kei cars. Forza games have gameplay features GT didn’t have and livery editor since forever.
I stand by my first post, two months after GT7 debuted:
I’ve played Forza games from about 2006/2007(Forza 3?) through to Forza Horizon 4. GT been behind, due to lack of imagination. Search this site and threads mention after GT4, PD lost their way.
I’ll say again in similar threads as these, PD have the tools to lead the way, but they’re executing poorly on delivery. PD aren’t trying to catch up. They’re like Bruce Willis in The Sixth Sense.They don’t know they’re dead yet.
This thread can turn into another Forza vs GT thread, just amend the title, but it ain’t. I feel Forza chatter should slide over to the Forza threads by now. If players want to know more about the game, there are more information being shared there.
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It is good. There are mutual benefits for both sides, and I think a lot of people forget that.
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For anyone doubt some of the car models in fm just watch camparsions With gt7 on youtube i saw a camparsion between both with porsche carrera gt, and its like 2 gens behind in fm, it dosen’t look that good, but to sit here and ask for the cars thats outdated just do some reserch your self, i am not wikipedia,
And it dosen’t really matter if its 20,50 or 100 outdated models but the fact that they still doing it despite this talk about build from the ground up nonsense i saw through this marketing bs already a mile a way, they deserve to be called out on it, same with rt witch digital foundry already has
And it dosen’t really matter if its 20,50 or 100 outdated models but the fact that they still doing it despite this talk about build from the ground up nonsense i saw through this marketing bs already a mile a way, they deserve to be called out on it, same with rt witch digital foundry already has
The economy is fine in fm, but the upgrade system sucks in this area gt7 is by far better, this is a downgrade campared to older forza games, they proably did this to get more people play daily on gamepass so it looks good for them
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
To be fair, you can tell which interiors in GT7 were direct carry-overs from GTS, and which interiors were modeled directly for GT7. The textures for say… the 917K and the HiMedic van are far superior to that of the Porsche RSR. Same could be said for pretty much all of the VR cars that were direct carry-overs from GTS.
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since when you like VGTs? 99% of cars do have interiorMeanwhile we're left to drive around cars without interior models in GT7.
Built from the ground up for PSVR2.
also now Built from the ground up is a big meme from Forza because it obviously wasn't made from ground up 😂
I find Forza's HUD horrible and track map is almost useless
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And 99% of the cars in Forza are...fine.
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How about actually playing it? Because in-game, the car is fine & nowhere near some of the bigger offenders like the R32. It is definitely not "outdated", either considering more of its details are much sharper in the new game. It has been said multiple times already, of course GT7's model looks better, PD is a developer literally obsessed with their models out-pacing everyone else.
But, telling others to do "your own research" is just you trying to deflect away. You made a bogus statement & you can't back it up when @ImaRobot called you out on it. You've been making these same outlandish posts before the game even released.
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