WSC VI - Oalith, Yeratel, Panoz All End The GT5 Era At A Soaked Spa! Share Your Memories!

[FordMKIVJ5]

Start the race at 0 miles on the car, set to regulation power. You'll gain power during the race as the car breaks in

It'd be more efficient to run it at full power though. Sure you'll be faster in the at a late point in the race, but you'll be slower for the rest.

 

[LancerEvo7]

No, you'll be at normal speed for the first bit than faster for the rest.

 

[FordMKIVJ5]

No, you'll be at normal speed for the first bit than faster for the rest.

But the cars will degrade their oil and therefore power at the same rate. All you're doing is hindering yourself at the start.

 

[R0ssingt0n]

I usually put about 50 miles on a car after restoring it. Even after nurburgring I hadn't lost power and I started with about 50...

 

[Furinkazen]

Going to be a fun old ride tonight. We'll do 1 warm down lap after the end on the last lap as a GT5 tribute.

 

[LancerEvo7]

Then I'm definitely not running. Having to do that at Le Mans after running a few hours and just wanting to be done was terrible.

 

[Furinkazen]

Then I'm definitely not running. Having to do that at Le Mans after running a few hours and just wanting to be done was terrible.

I'll award entry #15 to someone else then.

 

[R0ssingt0n]

Oh it turns out I actually have 1 restoration ticket left so I've just sent furi my car for absolutely no reason hahaha

 

[Furinkazen]

Oh it turns out I actually have 1 restoration ticket left so I've just sent furi my car for absolutely no reason hahaha

Idiot. I'll send the car back to you.

 

[snowgt]

But the cars will degrade their oil and therefore power at the same rate. All you're doing is hindering yourself at the start.

Not if you haven't done an oil change. The oil degradation is limited to the extra boost from the oil change for a couple of thousand kilometres. So, by using a car that's not broken in with no oil change, if you set it to correct specs at the beginning, it will gain from breaking it in, but no oil degradation will take place for a while. The difference in the end is pretty big, if you have one car that actually has gained power and one has lost power until the end of the race.

Whose idea was this stupid extra oil boost and the breaking in anyway…?

 

[rustyMercedes]

still not feeling well enough to race today...see you all in gt6!

I will definitely be in the next season of WSC and I might do TOCA 👍

 

[Yeratel84]

Whose idea was this stupid extra oil boost and the breaking in anyway…?

The power boost that comes from your first oil change, I believe it's an attempt of mimicking a performance gain you would get after swapping a normal road-going oil for a track-specific oil (although that would mean we should gain nothing by swapping a race car's oil)... as for engine breaking-in, power gain might actually happen to an engine if you break it in correctly (not sudden accelerations for the 1st ~1000 kms, avoiding great amplitude of temperature changes wherever you take your car, etc...), as well as actually improving engine life in the long run, but this would also mean you shouldn't gain any extra power from race cars, as these should already be at their peak by the time you first run them)...

Anyway, just my opinion on these...

 

[Furinkazen]

90 minutes until Q begins. Quick notes:

Start is as ever on the sportscar straight, however Chequered flag will be as well. So we are green from Sportscar Straight Lap 2 to Sportscar Straight Lap 62. Rest of 62 is the warm down lap.

And for the final time, ROOM IS OPEN!.

 

[FordMKIVJ5]

Not if you haven't done an oil change. The oil degradation is limited to the extra boost from the oil change for a couple of thousand kilometres. So, by using a car that's not broken in with no oil change, if you set it to correct specs at the beginning, it will gain from breaking it in, but no oil degradation will take place for a while. The difference in the end is pretty big, if you have one car that actually has gained power and one has lost power until the end of the race.

Whose idea was this stupid extra oil boost and the breaking in anyway…?

So what you're saying is that for a significant proportion of the race you're running above the specification given for the car?

How is that even legal?

 

[Furinkazen]

So what you're saying is that for a significant proportion of the race you're running above the specification given for the car?

How is that even legal?

That's happened and been used and abused by a good few, me included. Not so much cheating as playing the rules and game very clever.

 

[FordMKIVJ5]

That's happened and been used and abused by a good few, me included. Not so much cheating as playing the rules and game very clever.

It seems awfully underhanded to me, especially seeing as certain cars on the grid can't actually use that tactic (i.e. the ones without power limitation). 👎


I should say I misunderstood what Lancer was saying on the previous page, I hadn't read the "set to regulation power" bit. So sorry for that.

 

[Furinkazen]

45 minutes to the Q session.

 

[Furinkazen]

Half hour to quali, awaiting @snowgt , @Yeratel84 @FlyingFox , @Downhill Dino , @DK , @Osr20_L , @LancerEvo7 , @DaxCobra , @sparkytooth .

 

[Downhill Dino]

Going to miss some if not most of qualifying.

 

[Furinkazen]

Going to miss some if not most of qualifying.

If you can give me a heads u[ I might hold start by 5 minutes.

 

[Downhill Dino]

@Furinkazen You don't need to hold for me.

 

[snowgt]

It seems awfully underhanded to me, especially seeing as certain cars on the grid can't actually use that tactic (i.e. the ones without power limitation). 👎

I know. It's a loophole that is solely caused by the existence of "break-in" to begin with. I don't ever use it though. Don't want to win that bad.

 

[Furinkazen]

4 spots remain.

 

[LancerEvo7]

So what you're saying is that for a significant proportion of the race you're running above the specification given for the car?

Yup. I know when I ran the Lambo at Spa last season, at the end of the race I was closer to 470PP than 460. But I was legal during spec checks.

How is that even legal?

I really wanted to say #FuriLogic here, but there's just no way to prevent it with current methods.

 

[Furinkazen]

Yup. I know when I ran the Lambo at Spa last season, at the end of the race I was closer to 470PP than 460. But I was legal during spec checks.


I really wanted to say #FuriLogic here, but there's just no way to prevent it with current methods.

Agreed. Coming Lancer, got room?

 

[LancerEvo7]

Nah. VLN last night GT5'd me out for the weekend.

 

[Furinkazen]

Nah. VLN last night GT5'd me out for the weekend.

ok.

 

[FordMKIVJ5]

I really wanted to say #FuriLogic here, but there's just no way to prevent it with current methods.

The only way would be post race spec checks. Or of course just running cars without power limitation.

 

[Furinkazen]

Q starts in 7 mins, starting to fill up now!

 

[R0ssingt0n]

Thanks Furi! Loved being a part of the WSC. Really enjoyed it.

Took this pic at Nurb. Thought it was appropriate for the end of WSC's time on GT5...