Xbox One, FM5 Announced! (UPDATE, See first post!)
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Well, judging by your posts, I'd say you're just talking out your ass because that's not the reason.Yeah judging by the specs , id feel quite comfortable saying its a piece of crap , it locks a game to the console for god sake's. There is a reason why ms stocks plunged an sony stocks skyrocketed after the reveal ended ,
Well, damn. I guess the mods just ought to up & lock this thread, then.
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First of all ^^^^ is awesome.
Second:
8 = 8
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8 ≠ 5 regardless of the bizarro math you may be trying to use.
8 = 8
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But this is Forza 5 not GT6...
What I was speaking about was you, as a person, not the games. How can you have such strong beliefs in one things, then criticize a different title that we have no information on, thats of the exact same nature. You act like the reasonable guy, someone that try's to not judge so harshly of what little is known when it comes to GT. You would think that would be someone that would e able to have mutual respect for something that is different, and then you just flip flop your whole image "because its Forza, not gran turismo." 👎 lost respect for that one
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" asking a GT die hard fan for a dose of humility and acknowledgement is asking a mule a kiss instead of a kick " - Kreepa
... I guess it's never happening, It's been 5 games with this one, critical acclaim in the 4 prior, and this lost somewhere in the 90s franchise is blindly defended by people that see nothing else.
...While, with every new update, all they add is features that have been in Forza since day one.
... I guess it's never happening, It's been 5 games with this one, critical acclaim in the 4 prior, and this lost somewhere in the 90s franchise is blindly defended by people that see nothing else.
...While, with every new update, all they add is features that have been in Forza since day one.
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This exactly.
I get it. I used to be a die-hard GT fan. I remember first hearing about this new series called Forza and laughed it off as some sad attempt at a competitor. Once I played FM2, I was instantly floored at how much bigger a game like GT could be. I realized just how stagnant that series had become. I still play GT, but I enjoy Forza more and not because of some baseless preference on vendor (seriously, MS gets a bad rap for being a greedy corporation yet Sony is given mom & pop shop status?).
On that same note, I really do hope that FM5 brings something new to the table. Graphics are great, and day/night effects would be nice, but what are they going to do for the series that nobody else is doing well?
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Act like what?
I wasn't disrespecting anything. You mean me disrespecting Forza? o_oThat's not what I meant. I have respect for Forza, why will I criticize it? But I will criticize it for its events due to the same tracks that are in them. I criticize GT well GT5 for its level system, paint chips as well lack of A-spec events. Well since you think I have no respect for Forza than I guess I won't be returning back to this thread, if your belief is I'm a GT fanboy that disrespect other games...
Staying far away from the Forza forums from now on.
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I edited my post because disrespect was the wrong choice on my part.Act like what?
I just thought of you to be different, but the whole "because its Forza." Post kind of just changed that opinion.
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To be fair FM are have repeatedly showed more interest in attracting more than just the core racer, widening their audience to easy play features for kids, growing a community for painters etc. All quite neat features in one way or another but not features that are set to replicate the realism or accuracy of racing as a true motorsport.
I would wager now that those looking a more hardcore sim are not going to get it with FM5. They will though get more of the same with new stuff and probably the best FM to date.
Its all about growing your target audience, maximising sales.
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How do you figure Forza doesn't replicate racing as a true motorsport? They give you the tools to turn any vehicle in the game into a racecar, they also have a very good selection of various purpose built racecars in the game as well.
If you're talking about sanctioned motorsports, then sure, but you aren't going to get that experience on a console anyway. The only real hardcore motorsport sims end up on the PC.
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But don't forget that they also went and partnered up with Pirelli to create a more accurate tire model including the addition of tire flex. That's something that only hardcore sim racers would truly appreciate and something the GT series is just now getting serious about.
I do agree that their push for more accurate physics has been a slow and arduous path.
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Well you kinda answered your own question.
You only have to look at what proper racing sims offer to see what FM has missing.
My point is that they have done far more over the series to grow the age/range of players and community involved with it but much less to bring it closer to a replicate a racing sim comparable to those on PC.
Features like:
Rewind/easy controls/Kinect control to make it more accessible but what to actually make it more difficult or realistic?
I realised to get that, then PC was the place and not moan about not getting it on a console.
You only have to look at what proper racing sims offer to see what FM has missing.
My point is that they have done far more over the series to grow the age/range of players and community involved with it but much less to bring it closer to a replicate a racing sim comparable to those on PC.
Features like:
Rewind/easy controls/Kinect control to make it more accessible but what to actually make it more difficult or realistic?
I realised to get that, then PC was the place and not moan about not getting it on a console.
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What exactly are we supposed to be talking about than?
Well, damn. I guess the mods just ought to up & lock this thread, then.
Of course we already new that the graphics would look good, they were already good. To say the game looks great, well maybe I am reading into it something that wasn't intended. What I read is that it looks like a great game. To that I say we can not tell anything about the game beyond it appears to have sharp graphics on the replay possibly better lighting and better smoke but not a clue as to if the game will be as good as the ones before.
It also is sounding like it may not work with our exiting Forza branded Fanatec wheels which cost a bundle and if that be the case then it may be the one I do not buy. We'll see once more info rolls in.
I hope it is a good game and that they do not let to much NFS, GRID, Horizon creep in as that could only hurt the game IMO and of course it needs to work with the wheels they have been promoting the last 4 years.
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What makes you think this?
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Some things I have been reading today. Something about a different method of direct wifi connection that does not work with existing controllers and such. Several people are asking about in on the offical Forza forum but no answers other than one I saw where someone said that Fanatec had said they will modify/upgrade existing wheels to work with it if at all possible which makes it sound like they do not know if it will work or can be made to work.
All I can say is if they do not work I would have a very very hard time considering buying the console or the game. On the other hand if the wheel works with it and the console has a reasonable price and the game has not strayed in the wrong direction then I would most likely buy it and perhaps would if there is some low cost adapter that could be purchased to make the wheel compatible.
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I just watched the trailer and I could of sworn I was watching a new Need For Speed Pro Street.
That announcer was horrible as well as the Transformers-ish slow downs.👎
Why not just show the cars in all the glory? Everybody who cares knows what Forza is about, but for some reason or another, they brought in Michael Bay.
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My guess is just to throw a teaser out there before e3. I have no problem with that, and even if I did, e3 is right around their corner.
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Couldn't agree more.
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Well I'll be damned if they show that super slow-mo replay like in Le Mans.... wait, I just saw that effect last week in... GT6 reveal... preposterous.
Damn, many of you here act like you were Colin Chapman and were given an R35 to drive. The game has always evolved, for the better mind you, but they are also trying to broaden the spectrum in which they market. Tell me when the simulation lost calculations? when did it lose features? they keep adding and taking only what is least explored, content wise. It can only get better. That it has many control aids SO THE LESS GIFTED could access the game? sure. Do you HAVE to use them? nope. The broader the appeal, the more sales and a better game we get next time around. Is that so hard to understand?
Now tell me how would it be if by some peoples logic we had 50 next gen cars and 170 forza 1 cars with the physics of TDU? would it matter if it had no traction control? sure as hell not, I just hit this bridge support in this physically incorrect ring at 200 + and this 4 polygon car is the same as it was in ready set go
...dammit
Damn, many of you here act like you were Colin Chapman and were given an R35 to drive. The game has always evolved, for the better mind you, but they are also trying to broaden the spectrum in which they market. Tell me when the simulation lost calculations? when did it lose features? they keep adding and taking only what is least explored, content wise. It can only get better. That it has many control aids SO THE LESS GIFTED could access the game? sure. Do you HAVE to use them? nope. The broader the appeal, the more sales and a better game we get next time around. Is that so hard to understand?
Now tell me how would it be if by some peoples logic we had 50 next gen cars and 170 forza 1 cars with the physics of TDU? would it matter if it had no traction control? sure as hell not, I just hit this bridge support in this physically incorrect ring at 200 + and this 4 polygon car is the same as it was in ready set go
...dammit
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I had a very similar impression. That announcer on Pro Street drove me up the wall. I surely hope they do not add something like that into the game but given some of the NFS type things they added in Horizon I would not be really surprised.
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Hey, at least with the GT6 reveal I wasn't forced to listen to this..
haha gold, I agree that it was massively out of place
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Yeah, those things are so out of place... why do they even try is so far beyond me. 800 standards yet this abomination makes it in. should've just played the audio recording and get racing
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There could be a still image of a car parked to the side without a driver and people on here would still call it an arcade game. How wrong they are though..
Watching the FM5 trailer and reading it's not CG and all in game engine running on dev hardware has me me drooling by the mouth. I now need to know MORE and I have to wait until E3..
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