Wow, looks like a few people are taking this way too seriously. Lighten up, this is just a game.
I cant believe people want to split drivers up based on ability. Don't forget you will probably be splitting friends up, too and that's the reason I play Gran Turismo. Why would I want to race in a series if my friends have been placed in a different division? That would suck.
Is it really unbelievable? You know every sport or anything competitive at all has the same dichotomy. There's always going to be hardcore and casual. There's absolutely no way to make a blanket set of recommended features to cover both, that's why each side needs its representatives and unique toolsets.
This discussion aims to cover both, so you don't have to try and point out things that are wrong by you, it's just a forum for opinion.
That's like going into a sporting event and being like, " Man why are they cheering when our team misses the goal?!"
What you're talking about is definitely important, it comes down to two different types of players: those that just want to race with friends or have the sole goal of making new ones and those that only want to challenge themselves and get better, no matter who they race with.
I'm in the latter camp, but we have plenty of guys that are in the former. Both sides have their issues that need to be addressed and I'm all about helping both sides realize them. No need at all to split ourselves up.
And again, try thinking more broadly, giving your personal opinion on what your ideal type of racing is, but try and think from my perspective of wanting to race people much faster than myself constantly and be on an extremely level playing field when it comes to reg's and BoP.
Getting into those "shoes" and trying to figure out ways to improve things for that side of things brings in a totally fresh perspective from you, it's a really valuable asset to have when people do it.
I'm not lumping every new member as a wannabe race director, I'm simply warning against sugar-coating the very real and imposing responsibilities of running a quality race series. It's not for the faint of heart, so there's no reason to give anyone the wrong idea be spoon-feeding them a standardized OP format for them to simply "fill in the blanks".
I think it's important to promote as many racing series as humanly possible. That's always been one of my biggest aims. I mean, hell, I was the one that motivated Brandon to get started with the Cappuccino Cup series. I could've ran it myself but I would've much rather encouraged someone new to take up the challenge rather than just make everything myself.
It breeds inspiration and innovation. That's the return profit you get from encouraging anyone and everyone to start a series that's even half-way interested in doing it. I learned a lot from different series and organizers I've helped get kicked off and the lessons taken away from that are just priceless. It's an investment the whole community could benefit from. That's why I'm so adamant about creating an exhaustive index of all the new series that are gonna be popping up for GT6 here. Not only to collect data and evaluate trends and all that, but also to keep track of who's making moves, what works, what doesn't, and reaching out to series owners through it, in a much more familiarized state. That way we can bounce success off of each other and just create an awesome stew of prosperity and constant advancement. If that means a few guys are going to make series that are gonna crash and burn, let it be. Whether we do this or not, people will fail, some really hard. Some, so hard it'll even turn them off to the idea of making a series forever. That's a risk that's definitely worth taking though, because even if it was that for every hundred failed series, one incredible series came out of it, that's more than worth it from where I'm looking.
"Allowed" to flourish"? "Squeezed out"? I really don't get the impression that's what going on around here. If that were the case, I would have been squeezed out long ago. When I started SNAIL, it was more than a year after GT5 launched and I didn't know any other GTPlanet member. I can tell you wholeheartedly that I was not "squeezed out" because I was new. In fact, the opposite was true. If you ask me, success around here is earned, not "allowed". If a potential race director wants to have a successful series, the formula is pretty simple.. Be original, be organized, and be committed. Much easier said than done, but those factors far outweigh membership tenure IMO.
He was just saying he wants to avoid that sentiment cropping up, not that it's happened at all.
Nope, our race directors have complete freedom to schedule their races for whenever they want to. I simply wait to see what they decide on and then enter that information into our schedule. Nothing regimented about it.
I think he's talking just about your Sunday series, which runs every Sunday. So regimented! haha
Collaboration is great. 👍 Mandated regulations are not. 👎
No one's ever suggested mandatory regulations at all. Only a base set of recommended reg's people could copy and paste if they so desired. But I definitely agree. Collaboration's great here.
Thanks for putting this together and inviting everyone to join in on the discussion. Hopefully some of the ideas proposed so far are able to stick and improve the experience here. After all, a successful and prosperous GTPlanet is what we're all after!
Definitely man. Every week we're going to be evaluating the contents of the threads and submitting summaries to Jordan and the OLR and WRS officials for digestion and to get some good discourse going. You'll definitely the most popular and reasonable ideas being taken seriously and hopefully implemented.
