2013 Formula 1 Grand Prix De Monaco

  • Thread starter lbsf1
  • 721 comments
  • 40,257 views
Do they not count qualifying laps? Seems that they were pulling laps about 1sec faster than the fastest lap set by Schumi.

It would be pretty sick to a new fastest lap though.
 
Fastest Lap (Qualifying): 1:13.532 - Kimi Räikkönen at the 2006 Monaco Grand Prix in Q2
Fastest Lap (Race): 1:14.439 - Michael Schumacher at the 2004 Monaco Grand Prix
 
I love this corner so much...

4HFwZ3.gif
 


When racing was still racing :lol:.


But that is not racing. That is a Depailler going around a wet track, quite carefully, _alone_. .


Considering the cold conditions I have actually changed my mind a bit. I still think that Vettel is most likely to win but any one of the Mercedes cars actually have a reasonable chance of taking it.
 
They might as well stop bringing the full wet tires if they are not going to use them for the conditions they were designed for. :D

Racing in the rain is one of those things that has separated GP racing from other forms of motorsport, particularly oval-based motorsports. Rain races produce more overtaking due to low grip and driver errors, they usually produce unexpected results, and they also unveil the hidden masters of the rain, or "Regenmeisters."

Senna became very well known, thanks in part to rain races. So too did Michael Schumacher, Jim Clark, Tazio Nuvolari, Jenson Button, Rudolf Caracciola, Gilles Villeneuve and many others. Not the least of which, Stefan Bellof who was lapping Monaco faster than Senna was in that famous 1984 event. The Honda F1 team had a GP win, thanks to rain. The Hungaroring actually produces great races, with rain. Part of what makes Spa so special is the unexpected rain it sometimes has.

It would be a shame to see wet races disappear, due to sponsors not wanting to see their car crash out of the race, or other reasons.
 
They might as well stop bringing the full wet tires if they are not going to use them for the conditions they were designed for. :D

Racing in the rain is one of those things that has separated GP racing from other forms of motorsport, particularly oval-based motorsports. Rain races produce more overtaking due to low grip and driver errors, they usually produce unexpected results, and they also unveil the hidden masters of the rain, or "Regenmeisters."

Senna became very well known, thanks in part to rain races. So too did Michael Schumacher, Jim Clark, Tazio Nuvolari, Jenson Button, Rudolf Caracciola, Gilles Villeneuve and many others. Not the least of which, Stefan Bellof who was lapping Monaco faster than Senna was in that famous 1984 event. The Honda F1 team had a GP win, thanks to rain. The Hungaroring actually produces great races, with rain. Part of what makes Spa so special is the unexpected rain it sometimes has.

It would be a shame to see wet races disappear, due to sponsors not wanting to see their car crash out of the race, or other reasons.

It's not that they won't race in rain, most of the time the rain doesn't affect the cars. It's just when it get really bad, kinda like a light flash flood and the cars just aquaplane. The engineers try to get the cars as low as possible because the lower you get it the faster you'll go. However a puddle will lift the car. That's when you're in trouble. The rain tyres are actually thicker to try and lift the cars a bit but you can only do so much and the engineers tricks to get the car low is their downfall.
 
It's not that they won't race in rain, most of the time the rain doesn't affect the cars. It's just when it get really bad, kinda like a light flash flood and the cars just aquaplane. The engineers try to get the cars as low as possible because the lower you get it the faster you'll go. However a puddle will lift the car. That's when you're in trouble. The rain tyres are actually thicker to try and lift the cars a bit but you can only do so much and the engineers tricks to get the car low is their downfall.

I have no problems with them red flagging a race because of monsoon conditions. It's just that recently they have started to red flag races and qualifying sessions for conditions that aren't much different to Brazil 2008, for example. Pretty sure the cars were extremely low then too.
 
Considering the cold conditions I have actually changed my mind a bit. I still think that Vettel is most likely to win but any one of the Mercedes cars actually have a reasonable chance of taking it.

Agreed. Unfortunately. It seems as if Ferrari have returned to the issue of 2010, when they couldn't switch their tyres on quickly in anything by blazing hot conditions.

Oops - BBC reporting that Mercedes did tyre testing with Pirelli between the Spanish and Monaco GP...

Linky
 
Last edited:
Oops - BBC reporting that Mercedes did tyre testing with Pirelli between the Spanish and Monaco GP...

Linky

This is terrible when Pirelli own a test car, giving 1 team 1000km of testing that the other teams don't have is ridiculous, I'll be glad to see the back of Pirelli...
 
They say that there is no advantage for Mercedes because Mercedes didn't know which tyres they were given.

Data is data, and the tyres for Canada were tested. I can understand why the other teams are a bit pissed off. I love how Pirelli say it "was done in WRC before, so there is no problem" :lol:.

If Pirelli were to 'pick' a team to work with as it is said they did, why not chose the one at the back of the grid, to avoid being seen to playing favourites?
 
Data is data, and the tyres for Canada were tested. I can understand why the other teams are a bit pissed off.

If Pirelli were to 'pick' a team to work with as it is said they did, why not chose the one at the back of the grid, to avoid playing favourites?

We'll see what happens, if they are in the wrong we'll see what articles come out of it in the next week or so. If Red Bull and Ferrari think it's wrong they won't let Mercedes get away with it easily.

EDIT: Niki Lauda: "Another team has tested privately this year, the FIA gave them and us permission to test."
 
We'll see what happens, if they are in the wrong we'll see what articles come out of it in the next week or so. If Red Bull and Ferrari think it's wrong they won't let Mercedes get away with it easily.

EDIT: Niki Lauda: "Another team has tested privately this year, the FIA gave them and us permission to test."

Apparently, Ferrari tested after the Bahrain GP but not with their current car.
 
Is anyone who got the free NowTV day pass having problems loading the F1 livestream? It's been loading for ~10-15 minutes for me. :mad:
 
Yep, also fine here.

Does it bother anyone else that the broadcasters do the same cliched "history of Monaco" features and interviews every year? The drivers must bore of it every year, giving the same "Yes, it's very special" answers.
 
Red Bull grassing on Mercedes! SURPRISE SURPRISE!
And another dig at Pirelli as well...

I do wish he would stop trying to fix this championship. He's clearly bring the sport into disrepute, what does Bernie get paid to do?!
 
DK
Is anyone who got the free NowTV day pass having problems loading the F1 livestream? It's been loading for ~10-15 minutes for me. :mad:

No problem here.

EDIT:



Full 9 laps of Di Resta helmet footage from last seasons race. Immense.
 
Last edited:
Daft Punk were escorting Kimi and Grosjean around the paddock, so damn cool.
 
Does it bother anyone else that the broadcasters do the same cliched "history of Monaco" features and interviews every year?

Not particularly. I think it's a good thing that there's one very special race that there's so much anticipation for. It's like the culmination of everything Formula One. I myself, always look forward to it year after year as it's one of the few tracks that really excite me.

I'm sure the drivers have even more respect and passion for the place too, so I doubt they have any problem repeating themselves when it's something they love to do.
 
Red Bull grassing on Mercedes! SURPRISE SURPRISE!
And another dig at Pirelli as well...

I do wish he would stop trying to fix this championship. He's clearly bring the sport into disrepute, what does Bernie get paid to do?!

JGreens bashing Red Bull and Vettel. Surprise surprise. For someone who hates them so much it seems to be the only thing you talk about.
 
I'm kind of annoyed that there's a delay for NBC Sports (the GP isn't going to be shown until 10 on TV for me. :indiff: )

Luckily, there's the NBCSports livestream.
 
I'm kind of annoyed that there's a delay for NBC Sports (the GP isn't going to be shown until 10 on TV for me. :indiff: )

Luckily, there's the NBCSports livestream.

NBC is showing the race on their main channel if you didn't know.
 
Back