2014 United Sports Car Championship

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cnd01
Did you not just ask how a DP was different?
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No I was telling you that you still need to post proof on the Daytona Prototypes that you were asked to provide earlier from another user. I'm merely saying you have two things you need to provide. That being DP speed and GAGT having a bigger engine than GTC along with other difference that makes it a GTC +.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
No I was telling you that you still need to post proof on the Daytona Prototypes that you were asked to provide earlier from another user. I'm merely saying you have two things you need to provide. That being DP speed and GAGT having a bigger engine than GTC along with other difference that makes it a GTC +.
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http://boom.net/~mike/lapfu.php?event=2013+-+Rolex+Daytona

DP and GAGT Rolex 24 and LOTS of other data

Give me 5 on the rules
 
LMS, the specs you gave for the GA GT Porsche are outdated, assuming they were correct in the first place (if I'm not mistaken, you got them from Leh Keen's website?). The current Grand-AM GT Porsche uses a special 4.0 Liter Engine and transmission that is based off of the RSR's drivetrain with modifications to make it compliant for the Cup chassis and Grand-Am regulations. It makes 450 horsepower but substantially higher amounts of torque (the exact number isn't listed for competitive reasons).

I still can't find the original source that describes the construction methods that a GT3 Cup goes through to get where it is, but I did find this source which mentions the same thing about the car's powertrain (it doesn't mention that the Powertrain is from the RSR, but how many 4.0 NA racing engines do you think Porsche makes?)

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/porsche/2012-porsche-911-gt3-cup-brumos-racing-edition-ar131823.html
 
Snaeper
LMS, the specs you gave for the GA GT Porsche are outdated, assuming they were correct in the first place (if I'm not mistaken, you got them from Leh Keen's website?). The current Grand-AM GT Porsche uses a special 4.0 Liter Engine and transmission that is based off of the RSR's drivetrain with modifications to make it compliant for the Cup chassis and Grand-Am regulations. It makes 450 horsepower but substantially higher amounts of torque (the exact number isn't listed for competitive reasons).

I still can't find the original source that describes the construction methods that a GT3 Cup goes through to get where it is, but I did find this source which mentions the same thing about the car's powertrain (it doesn't mention that the Powertrain is from the RSR, but how many 4.0 NA racing engines do you think Porsche makes?)

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/porsche/2012-porsche-911-gt3-cup-brumos-racing-edition-ar131823.html
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I guess you missed it but it was already said by me that those were outdated yet, did as intended which was to prove that the cars don't run a different engine. I copied from the Grand Am website on the regs as far as I remember.

Now what you show doesn't show that the GTC car has a smaller engine it is said that is also a 4.0.
 
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LMSCorvetteGT2
Now what you show doesn't show that the GTC car has a smaller engine it is said that is also a 4.0.
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I'm a bit confused by the point you're making. The GTC car does have a smaller engine, 3.8 liters to be precise. I haven't read anything else that says the GTC uses a 4.0.
 
LancerEvo7
Tbh I doubt DPs get going much faster than that.
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Just a bit faster.
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According to IMSA rules: page 174

GTC Class
Only the following race cars in their original versions, in full compliance with the specific variants regulations, are allowed to take part in the Events.
• 2010-2013 Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 1205 kg

It only comes with the 3.8l powerplant.
See here

I believe LMS's last post was about the Brumos Porsche.
To me it does not seem to be an actual race car, and he said it has the 4.0l also.
That is what I also understand from the article.
 
01GTP
Just a bit faster.
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According to IMSA rules: page 174

GTC Class
Only the following race cars in their original versions, in full compliance with the specific variants regulations, are allowed to take part in the Events.
• 2010-2013 Porsche 911 GT3 Cup 1205 kg

It only comes with the 3.8l powerplant.
See here

I believe LMS's last post was about the Brumos Porsche.
To me it does not seem to be an actual race car, and he said it has the 4.0l also.
That is what I also understand from the article.
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So as I said, the GTC car is just a cup car...
 
01GTP
I believe LMS's last post was about the Brumos Porsche.
To me it does not seem to be an actual race car, and he said it has the 4.0l also.
That is what I also understand from the article.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2012/07/05/brumos-to-offer-special-edition-porsche-911-gt3-cup-racer/

...prepping the final five U.S.-spec 2012 911 GT3 Cup cars just like its racers.
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I didn't read it as that, but even so, it is a Grand-Am Spec Racing Porsche with all of the eligibility of all of the other Grand-Am Spec Racing Porsches.
 
hawkeye122
That's hilarious! Any other news?!
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Facebook news feed: people complaining. :lol:



Grand-Am, I wish man.


All I've got is this.



Edit: Now, I'm angry. How did all three Ferrari drivers qualify up front? All three?! Overpowered Ferrari? The M3s are both 1+ seconds behind... :guilty:
 
ITCC_Andrew
Facebook news feed: people complaining. :lol:



Grand-Am, I wish man.


All I've got is this.



Edit: Now, I'm angry. How did all three Ferrari drivers qualify up front? All three?! Overpowered Ferrari? The M3s are both 1+ seconds behind... :guilty:
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And the lone R8 qualified last in GT.
 
ITCC_Andrew
Adding to this, I checked the Practice 1 times; the R8 was running 1:16s in Practice 1, but 1:18s in Qualifying. :dunce: :ouch: :guilty: :grumpy:
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It's called pro-am driver lineup. It's the fall line guys. I believe Charles Espenlaub is the one who is an am driver.
 
cnd01
It's called pro-am driver lineup. It's the fall line guys. I believe Charles Espenlaub is the one who is an am driver.
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I thought Mark Boden was with Bryan Sellers in the R8 this weekend?
 
Mac K
I thought Mark Boden was with Bryan Sellers in the R8 this weekend?
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You're right. Espenlaub and Putnam have raced it before.

So it was Sellers running 1.16s and Boden qualifying 1.18s
 
ALMS
The GT Challenge class features three specifications of Porsche’s 911 GT3 Cup car. As in GT, the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup cars are based on the road-going Porsche 911 GT3 RS.
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Can you explain this to me Snaeper ^ it's from the ALMS website and the only GT3 RS to race cars I'm aware of are the Cup S (discontinued) and the GT3R which has the 4.0 and was an upgrade option for current owned Cup S. I just want to know what the 3 variations are because it's weird to me
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
Can you explain this to me Snaeper ^ it's from the ALMS website and the only GT3 RS to race cars I'm aware of are the Cup S (discontinued) and the GT3R which has the 4.0 and was an upgrade option for current owned Cup S. I just want to know what the 3 variations are because it's weird to me
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It might mean that different years of GT3 Cup are permitted since they might consider them different specifications, whereas (and I'm just guessing) a single-make GT3 Cup series may strictly enforce the usage of only the newest spec Cup car.

Otherwise I don't know, I saw it too and was a bit confused by what they mean. Because using cars like the Cup S, GT3 R, or a Grand-Am Spec GT3 would create massive performance disparity.
 
Snaeper
It might mean that different years of GT3 Cup are permitted since they might consider them different specifications, whereas (and I'm just guessing) a single-make GT3 Cup series may strictly enforce the usage of only the newest spec Cup car.

Otherwise I don't know, I saw it too and was a bit confused by what they mean. Because using cars like the Cup S, GT3 R, or a Grand-Am Spec GT3 would create massive performance disparity.
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Well I don't think so, the Cup S has as much power as the 4.0 Cup car that GA uses, the real issue I see is the GT3R because it has the 4.0 but almost as much power as the RSR. GT3 R has different aero package as well compared to the other two.
 
I still can't call the new Corvette as a Corvette with those tail lights. I do like this new 'Vette racer. I still fancy the SRT Vipers more.
 
LMSCorvetteGT2
Well I don't think so, the Cup S has as much power as the 4.0 Cup car that GA uses, the real issue I see is the GT3R because it has the 4.0 but almost as much power as the RSR. GT3 R has different aero package as well compared to the other two.
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The Cup S has slightly more Aero and other chassis modifications over the GA GT Porsche, but it's overall power numbers don't tell the whole story. They may only be 10hp apart, (440hp for the Cup S, 450 for the GA), but the 4.0 in the GA supposedly has loads more torque (3.6L vs. 4.0L). Meanwhile the GT3 R has a similar 4.0 Engine and a massive aerodynamic advantage. The three cars would not compete on a similar performance level.
 
Oh my gosh, so much Porsche talk! It's unending! :lol:


Anyways, I like the 'Vette, as far as the faster GT cars go. I tend to like slower cars, for racing, but a nice looking fast car is always pretty cool.
 

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