2014 United Sports Car Championship

[Snaeper]

One topic I haven't heard much about in all of this is the possibility of growth in GTE/LM. Have any new teams considered programs? I know Turner mentioned they might run Dalla Lana's Aston Martin, but are we just assuming it's going to stay like it is?

 

[01GTP]

Well we know Stevenson is out.
They're going Conti Challenge next year.

About the catch fencing:
Those fences don't really block any view, unless you look down it's length.
And even then it's not too bad.

If turn 7 doesn't have a similar fence then it needs one for safety.
I believe the speed on the straight leading to that corner is fast and they slow for the corner itself but a little contact before the corner could be serious.


Can you see the crowd behind this fence?
Even the fencing they have now at tracks does not stop debris from getting through as the mesh is not small.
Smaller at high speed tracks.

Another from NHIS where speeds aren't so fast.

Does it take a fan or even worse some fans kid to die first to implament some more safety?
Here is some current Sebring fencing, not bad at all for the view.
So wha'st wrong with more, in the name of safety?

God forbid another crash like this from a little contact that was at a slower pace then going into turn 7.

As nostalgic as these race events and tracks can be, safety has to be paramount.
I will always applaud safety.
Call me crazy.

 

[Sam48]

One topic I haven't heard much about in all of this is the possibility of growth in GTE/LM. Have any new teams considered programs? I know Turner mentioned they might run Dalla Lana's Aston Martin, but are we just assuming it's going to stay like it is?

We also know Audi would like to run GTE, and TRG may possibly buy up a GTE Aston. If there's anything USCR has gotten right so far, it's the GT-LM and GT-D/GT3 class. Prototypes on the other hand, they've created more issues than there originally were.

 

[Jav]

If turn 7 doesn't have a similar fence then it needs one for safety.
I believe the speed on the straight leading to that corner is fast and they slow for the corner itself but a little contact before the corner could be serious.



Does it take a fan or even worse some fans kid to die first to implament some more safety?
Here is some current Sebring fencing, not bad at all for the view.
So wha'st wrong with more, in the name of safety?


God forbid another crash like this from a little contact that was at a slower pace then going into turn 7.
As nostalgic as these race events and tracks can be, safety has to be paramount.
I will always applaud safety.
Call me crazy.

If you've ever been to Sebring you will know that there are actually 2 fences between where you can stand as a fan(on the 12hr weekend) and the track itself which has quite a decent amount of runoff in most areas. In between the 2 fences there's a good 16 feet or more, so yeah... No to the catch fences!!

 

[01GTP]

I have not been to Sebring.

If those fences are like these at Lime Rock, then a 2800 lb car won't be stopped.
These barely hold up my drunk buddy, Chuk.
At this spot on the track the track is actually 4 - 5 feet below the armco/dirt bank so that helps.

If the current fence is like the one I posted above (Sebring) then I may agree another is not so urgent.
I don't know what the conditions are around Sebring's turn 7 (or any of it by memory) so I'm going with the assumption that the people in charge are concerned.
Either that or this lady is making up stuff, which is just as possible.

Same area, just past the uphill.
Oh, those were the days.

A short video of the Patron car.

 

[01GTP]

Yup. double post.

I was looking at the Kansas schedule.
It looks like the USCR testing is happening thru Thursday.
Set them up tomorrow and track day Thursday?
Am I reading to much into that schedule or not?

Wasn't there mention of USCR testing coming up?
Even a new track doesn't need that much prep at the track, does it?

Maybe the extensive use of the oval needs that much prep...???

 

[cnd01]

Wait for inevitable Sebring repave...

Mixed feelings on this one.

Pros: it would put much less stress on the cars for 12 hours. Less breakdowns, more cars in the hunt at the end. It would reduce the risk of having a belle isle James Hinchcliffe incident.

Cons: Sebring is Sebring because it's bumpy. It's always been that way. That makes it a challenge on the driver which I really like. Plus, there would be a 🤬 storm on here about how NASCAR ruins everything.

 

[hawkeye122]

Plus, there would be a 🤬 storm on here about how NASCAR ruins everything.

Pity party is getting old...

 

[Snaeper]

We need the new P2 Prototype regulations asap. Reading the article posted about Dallara brought to light that the cost-cap on the P2 cars means there are no new chassis being made, as they require too much investment which the manufacturers may not get back.

I'll just reiterate my point about some kind of manufacturer involvement (similar to DP) that could be implemented to help the cars make money back on the development side so they can remain affordable. Put a brand design language on the body ala the Corvette DP and Mazda Furai concept.

In reality, the P2 and DP (and PC) could go away and I'd be pretty happy. It's not like either formula is particularly innovative (at least when compared to P1), and GT Racing is incredibly exciting, as has been proven with the BES.

The USCR needs to just do their best at making things as close as they can then adopting the new P2 rules ASAP, as P2 needs new Chassis, and DP needs to become more technologically innovative. The replacement car needs to be branded by manufacturers, especially if the USCR is going to have any shot at growth in popularity. (Outside of the Die-hards, who knows or cares about Oreca, Morgan, Riley or Dallara?)

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Fencing: Mosport (Canadian Tire Motorsports Park) barely has any.


I remember, if I had gone down to Moss Corner, T4 or even 100 ft. Farther down the straightaway, there wouldn't have been any fences.


Oh, and I was actually able to hear one of the ladies yelling when she was in a crash flat tire led to a concrete wall. As it happened, I was 20 ft. Away.



The taste of sand is bad. I found out when the sand she kicked up got airborne all over the place.


Something about safety? What safety? This is Canada. We're crazy.

 

[01GTP]

Mosport has quite a bit of fencing, Look.
Obviously not too bad for viewing as you seem to have forgotten they were there.
Nothing against you ITCC, just your post about Mosport fencing.

turn 8

turn 2

Along pit wall?

More

Moss corner 5a 5b 2013 surrounded with catch fencing. When you enlarge the photo you can see it better.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...a_and_5b_at_Canadian_Tire_Motorsport_Park.jpg

I can find more photos.

 

[cnd01]

Pity party is getting old...

The complaints about NASCAR are as well

Mosport has quite a bit of fencing, Look.
Obviously not too bad for viewing as you seem to have forgotten they were there.
Nothing against you ITCC, just your post about Mosport fencing.

turn 8

turn 2

Along pit wall?

More

Moss corner 5a 5b 2013 surrounded with catch fencing. When you enlarge the photo you can see it better.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e6/Moss_Corner_Turn_5a_and_5b_at_Canadian_Tire_Motorsport_Park.jpg

I can find more photos.

Mosport is one of the more modern tracks these days. Hats off to Don Panoz for buying it and starting the project then also to Ron Fellows for keeping the process going with a lot of help from the Canadian tire guys. It's got plenty of fences from watching the alms race.

 

[R0ssingt0n]

Wow, going by the last photo Mosport is definitely on my "to try and travel to" list. Great viewing!

 

[cnd01]

Wow, going by the last photo Mosport is definitely on my "to try and travel to" list. Great viewing!

It's recently on my list as well Hopefully, I can convince my parents that I need to go

 

[polarbear345]

It's recently on my list as well Hopefully, I can convince my parents that I need to go

It's not too far for me.

But my dentist went to Montreal for F1... And now I really want to go there!!

 

[R0ssingt0n]

It's recently on my list as well Hopefully, I can convince my parents that I need to go

Well I've pretty much convinced my parents to go to either daytona or indy so it isn't completely impossible!

 

[polarbear345]

Well I've pretty much convinced my parents to go to either daytona or indy so it isn't completely impossible!

Indy 500?

 

[R0ssingt0n]

Indy 500?

It's tempting, but oval racing isn't really my thing. Although I guess if I was to go to america to watch some racing it would definitely be something i should see!

Oh and sebring would be another one me and the parents would like to see.

 

[cnd01]

It's tempting, but oval racing isn't really my thing. Although I guess if I was to go to america to watch some racing it would definitely be something i should see!

Oh and sebring would be another one me and the parents would like to see.

Daytona has some amazing places to sit for the Rolex 24. There's some bleachers in the west horse shoe that allow you to see the cars on tye banking in oval turns 1&2. Loudest part of the track especially when the Mazda was in its prime running 14000 rpm+

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Guys, there's a "non-viewing section" of Mosport just after Moss Corner with no fences at all. It's only accessible by a dirt path that got an off-roading Jeep stuck. Basically, if you try to take your car over there, you're going to have a bad time.

Oh, and there's no "minimum distance" away from the track. You can get as close as you want.


I liked sitting at T8, and seeing the brake lock during pass attempts. Some people made ridiculous pass-attempts.

 

[Lotus380]

I searched the thread and could not find anything on this, but this truck was seen in the infield at the Brickyard Gran Prix at Indianapolis. I wonder whether they were gathering data for a possible USCR run next year.

 

[polarbear345]

I searched the thread and could not find anything on this, but this truck was seen in the infield at the Brickyard Gran Prix at Indianapolis. I wonder whether they were gathering data for a possible USCR run next year.

McLaren makes a ton of parts for racecars in general.

Would be awesome if it was for USCR!

 

[RACECAR]

I searched the thread and could not find anything on this, but this truck was seen in the infield at the Brickyard Gran Prix at Indianapolis. I wonder whether they were gathering data for a possible USCR run next year.

Are you sure that's not McLaren's ECU division? They are the manufacterers of those for the Cup cars.

 

[Mac K]

I've seen that truck at a few races I've went to, sadly RACECAR is correct..

 

[cnd01]

I've seen that truck at a few races I've went to, sadly RACECAR is correct..

I saw it at the Rolex 24. There was a srt hauler there as well. It was parked among the DP haulers ironically right next to the Starworks haulers. I lurked near it for a while to see if I could see anything. Plus, I was trying to say hey to Peter Baron again

 

[Snaeper]

I searched the thread and could not find anything on this, but this truck was seen in the infield at the Brickyard Gran Prix at Indianapolis. I wonder whether they were gathering data for a possible USCR run next year.

As stated above, McLaren has been following NASCAR around as they won the contract to supply NASCAR's EFI systems when NASCAR moved to that fuel delivery system.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/02/11/nascar-to-get-fuel-injection-for-2012-mclaren-wins-supply-contr/

 

[Müle]

The F1 Team, the road cars, and the electronics are basically three different entities owned by the same people and sharing the same name, iirc.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

McLaren is in the iRacing incarnation of Grand-Am, not the real-life one.


I wish, that McLaren would be minced-meat for the tube-framed Mazdas...

..Because I'm the only fan of Mazda's new GX car.

 

[Wardez]

Our GTA champ from last year just posted this to FB:

Should be really fun to track his progress!

He should do really well in FWD, which fits him like a glove.

Here's the team's FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Skullcandy-Team-Nissan/128725147241851

 

[cnd01]

Our GTA champ from last year just posted this to FB:

Should be really fun to track his progress!

He should do really well in FWD, which fits him like a glove.

Here's the team's FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Skullcandy-Team-Nissan/128725147241851

Skullcandy Nissan is pretty darn good. They won the conti race at Daytona in st. Ryan Ellis drives for them too. Thats great that Steve gets the opportunity