2014 United Sports Car Championship

[RACECAR]

Nothing seems to have been mentioned regarding shark fins for them. I doubt it will be at the moment since they are just focusing on speading up essentially the current car.

 

[Mac K]

First someone needs to commit to campaigning and developing it, so don't get to excited just yet. It looks fantastic though. 👍

 

[Sam48]

First someone needs to commit to campaigning and developing it, so don't get to excited just yet. It looks fantastic though. 👍

Well according to Chosse:

(With) regards to the Unites SportsCar Racing series, everyone is waiting for a final settlement. I think the U.S. market is buoyant.”

That's a good sign then. I'm trying to think of teams that will most likely buy this chassis. They only teams that come to mind right now are Picket, Ganassi, and possibly Starworks.

 

[cnd01]

Looks pretty cool! Like the headlights a lot!

Question: Do we know if the DP cars will need to use the shark fin?

Unless they're used to show full length movies as jumbo trons, I hope not

 

[Sam48]

I know it's a bit early to state such, but if other chassis manufacturers (Lola, Dome, etc.) go down the same path as ADESS AG, which I believe some will, then the death of the DP will be the LMP2 machinery that can go to Lemans with no real modifications necessary. Again, just another reason why USCR is becoming ALMS 2.0. I could be wrong, but I can't see the DP surviving past 2018 when LMP2 chassis manufacturers are offering such customizable customer platforms.

 

[cnd01]

I know it's a bit early to state such, but if other chassis manufacturers (Lola, Dome, etc.) go down the same path as ADESS AG, which I believe some will, then the death of the DP will be the LMP2 machinery that can go to Lemans with no real modifications necessary. Again, just another reason why USCR is becoming ALMS 2.0. I could be wrong, but I can't see the DP surviving past 2018 when LMP2 chassis manufacturers are offering such customizable customer platforms.

I have the same concerns which I'm sure all of you on here are very tired of hearing about, but a lot of these LMP2 projects still need teams funding them plus it's going to take a lot to get rid of 15 DP with a new chassis constructor, wolf, coming in next season. Honda is getting a motor homologated as well as Ford and the ecoboost. There's too much going for both right now to really get rid of either it seems, but I would have made the decision to go with one or the other simply because the two formulas much like the fans in some cases are oil and water even though both the LMP2, DP as well as the fan situation come primarily the same roots.

 

[Snaeper]

Dagys has a good idea on the potential schedule

11-Race Calendar for teams, though the Prototypes will be in Detroit and the GT teams will race in Long Beach (So 12 events total). CTMP, Baltimore and Kansas are vying for the final position. VIR sneaks in to oust Mid-Ohio. Lime Rock is understandably out due to it's size. Barber is also, sadly, out.

January 25-26 – Rolex 24 at Daytona (NAEC)
March 15 – Twelve Hours of Sebring (NAEC)
April 12 – Long Beach (GT Only)
May - Indianapolis Motor Speedway
May 31 – Detroit (Prototype Only)
June/July – Six Hours of The Glen (NAEC)
August – Road America
September – Circuit of The Americas
October – Petit Le Mans (NAEC)

TBD – Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
TBD – Virginia International Raceway


Here's hoping Canadian Tire Motorsports Park is the final entry, because I'm not much of a fan of Baltimore or Kansas, even if they are exciting and have the money.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

I know it's a bit early to state such, but if other chassis manufacturers (Lola, Dome, etc.) go down the same path as ADESS AG, which I believe some will, then the death of the DP will be the LMP2 machinery that can go to Lemans with no real modifications necessary. Again, just another reason why USCR is becoming ALMS 2.0. I could be wrong, but I can't see the DP surviving past 2018 when LMP2 chassis manufacturers are offering such customizable customer platforms.

I'm doubtful, I think DP will be more successful than LMP, because I think NASCAR/USCR officials are going to do their usual thing of trying to expand the world's biggest races to include them.

"Oh, you've got a good show over there, do you? We want in!"


It's the same thing they did with that Mobil 1 "Driver Swap" thing, where Tony Stewart proved that he was talentless in an F1 car, and where Jeff Gordon crashed an F1 car.


...And then there's the convenient "speedweeks" in Daytona. Was Daytona 500 always near the same time as the Daytona 24H?

Yes, expect DP and GTD at Le Mans, eventually.

I have the same concerns which I'm sure all of you on here are very tired of hearing about, but a lot of these LMP2 projects still need teams funding them plus it's going to take a lot to get rid of 15 DP with a new chassis constructor, wolf, coming in next season. Honda is getting a motor homologated as well as Ford and the ecoboost. There's too much going for both right now to really get rid of either it seems, but I would have made the decision to go with one or the other simply because the two formulas much like the fans in some cases are oil and water even though both the LMP2, DP as well as the fan situation come primarily the same roots.

"NO! NO! NO! DP doesn't have any factory involvement." Connor, there either is or isn't factory involvement.

On a less argumentative topic: I'm happy to see all of these new cars, especially that DP meets DW meets LMP2 car... Except, why does it strike me as a bit of an odd-ball shape and design? Come on, Chosse and friends, the Deltawing only works because of the weight distribution. Once you start shrinking the rear wing, you start shrinking the downforce...

Here's hoping Canadian Tire Motorsports Park is the final entry, because I'm not much of a fan of Baltimore or Kansas, even if they are exciting and have the money.

I will be very angry if it's not CTMP. Kansas is the most absurdly boring and terrible race course I've seen in my life!


I love Porto, and Macau, for how absurd and ridiculous they are. Yeah, Pau is amazing! Yeah!


But Baltimore and Kansas have both taken the "interesting" bits out of city courses (tight corners, difficult surface changes etc.) and replaced it with "what were they thinking? What's that? What's going on?"


The main question remains: why would anyone prefer a straightaway with three corners (see also: Kansas) over a proper - and awesome - Canadian race course?

 

[cnd01]

"NO! NO! NO! DP doesn't have any factory involvement." Connor, there either is or isn't factory involvement.

Considering it's hpd and not Honda

Also, Mike Shank has been testing the ecoboost with Ford offering support rather than Ford not selling engines and keeping it within their own team is not considered factory in my books.

 

[Sam48]

I will be very angry if it's not CTMP. Kansas is the most absurdly boring and terrible race course I've seen in my life!

The main question remains: why would anyone prefer a straightaway with three corners (see also: Kansas) over a proper - and awesome - Canadian race course?

It would be a huge mistake to leave Canada out of the picture when debuting the only major sports car sires in North America. If such happens, Road America and Watkins Glen are really as close as it gets (And by close, I mean anywhere from 100-150 miles away from the border)

 

[cnd01]

It would be a huge mistake to leave Canada out of the picture when debuting the only major sports car sires in North America. If such happens, Road America and Watkins Glen are really as close as it gets (And by close, I mean anywhere from 100-150 miles away from the border)

If Baltimore is on the schedule instead of CTMP/Mosport, I will lose all faith in thos who are making decisions. They've already left out Mid-Ohio I think which was strike 1. Baltimore would cover strike 2 and 3 as well as the other 26 outs

 

[Mac K]

GTD will never make it to Le Mans, there is no reason for it to. DP maybe, but that's highly highly unlikely in my opinion.

 

[cnd01]

GTD will never make it to Le Mans, there is no reason for it to. DP maybe, but that's highly highly unlikely in my opinion.

I see two main prototype configurations 2016 and on.

1.) Wec LMP1
2.) USCR P which will more than likely be adopted as the lead class in all the other regional Le Mans series if they're smart.

If number 2 is a sucess, it will be included at Le Mans

 

[Furinkazen]

I see two main prototype configurations 2016 and on.

1.) Wec LMP1
2.) USCR P which will more than likely be adopted as the lead class in all the other regional Le Mans series if they're smart.

If number 2 is a sucess, it will be included at Le Mans

LMP2 is already highly successful as it is...

 

[R0ssingt0n]

LMP2 is already the highest class in the ELMS and AsianLMS too. As much as I love LMP1, LMP2 is by far the best prototype class in motorsport at the moment.

 

[Sam48]

Tudor named USCR's official sponsor

 

[cnd01]

LMP2 is already the highest class in the ELMS and AsianLMS too. As much as I love LMP1, LMP2 is by far the best prototype class in motorsport at the moment.

No doubts it's succesful overseas. LMP2 overseas and DP here are proof that the premier prototype class can and will be successful if cost cutting measures are put in place. If LMP2 was the premier prototype class in the alms, I predict that over 10 cars would be in that class.

 

[Furinkazen]

A poor class in europe has 10 cars. DP is about as premier as a NASCAR Midget in a Sprint Cup race.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Ummm, GTD includes GT3 cars, doesn't it? With small modifications, I think GTD is clearly going over to Le Mans. Don't say it's not; the Mazda 6 GX machine isn't going over. The tube-framed Camaro isn't going over. But, the remainder of the GTD class is eligible.


DP, hopefully, will also get the go-ahead as Cnd01 said. However, don't expect it to be in WEC or ALMS (Asian** LMS) or ELMS. I doubt it.

 

[Furinkazen]

Ummm, GTD includes GT3 cars, doesn't it? With small modifications, I think GTD is clearly going over to Le Mans. Don't say it's not; the Mazda 6 GX machine isn't going over. The tube-framed Camaro isn't going over. But, the remainder of the GTD class is eligible.


DP, hopefully, will also get the go-ahead as Cnd01 said. However, don't expect it to be in WEC or ALMS (Asian** LMS) or ELMS. I doubt it.

Ummm GT3 ain't GT2 class aka GTE category. GTE is strongest category by far in WEC and LM racing and that's not going anytime soon.

 

[IforceV8]

Considering it's hpd and not Honda

Also, Mike Shank has been testing the ecoboost with Ford offering support rather than Ford not selling engines and keeping it within their own team is not considered factory in my books.

I hope you are joking.Who builds the Ford engines for Shank?

 

[RACECAR]

Ummm, GTD includes GT3 cars, doesn't it? With small modifications, I think GTD is clearly going over to Le Mans. Don't say it's not; the Mazda 6 GX machine isn't going over. The tube-framed Camaro isn't going over. But, the remainder of the GTD class is eligible.

Guess what? Its not. Come at me, bro




Just because there's GT3 cars doesn't automatically mean Le Mans. There's a reason why they are in "GTD" and not "GTLM"

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

GTLM is GT1, right?


GTD is GT3, right? Except, with irritating little diesels and tube frames, right?

 

[hawkeye122]

GTLM is GT1, right?

GTD is GT3, right? Except, with irritating little diesels and tube frames, right?

GTLM is Gt2/e. GT1 ended a few years ago

 

[LancerEvo7]

Although, to add more confusion, the most recent GT1 season was run using GT3 cars.

 

[RACECAR]

Although, to add more confusion, the most recent GT1 season was run using GT3 cars.

Yeah, they never changed the name when they changed the cars. Had people raging like crazy

 

[Mac K]

Tudor named USCR's official sponsor

No more Rolex or Patron

 

[Sam48]

No more Rolex or Patron

Tudor is a subdivision of Rolex targeted at motorsports enthusiasts. Patron will continue to be a supporting sponsor in the sires.

 

[RACECAR]

No more Rolex or Patron

It just means neither will be title sponsors, doesn't necessarily spell the end of their involvement. You forget about one of those big races in Florida?

 

[FoolKiller]

So long as Patron still brings their vendor tent/bar to the races.