2014 United Sports Car Championship

[ITCC_Andrew]

Isn't Patrón there because of its tequila?

 

[FoolKiller]

Isn't Patrón there because of its tequila?

Maybe I don't understand the question, but all sponsors are there for their products/services.

They were brought up in relation to Tudor/Rolex because they were the main sponsor of the ALMS.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

It doesn't mean that they're not involved; it's not two watch companies competing. It's two irrelevant companies that aren't competing. Well, unless people start confusing tequilas with watches, that is. 💡

 

[hawkeye122]

It doesn't mean that they're not involved; it's not two watch companies competing. It's two irrelevant companies that aren't competing. Well, unless people start confusing tequilas with watches, that is. 💡

I still don't understand what you're getting at

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

There's no reason why Patrón can't be a sponsor; it's just not the main sponsor.

 

[Müle]

It's the same thing they did with that Mobil 1 "Driver Swap" thing, where Tony Stewart proved that he was talentless in an F1 car, and where Jeff Gordon crashed an F1 car.

Do you honestly have any idea of what you talk about?

Give me a source of when Gordon crashed an F1 car, or leave the hall.

Protip: going off the track once and not hitting anything isnt "crashing"

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Protip: going off the track once and not hitting anything isnt "crashing"

This. Fine, I mis-worded it, but the point remains, he did not stay on the track.

 

[Sam48]

There's no reason why Patrón can't be a sponsor; it's just not the main sponsor.

Maybe we're all just reading this wrong, but Patron is still a sponsor, and Tudor is now the title sponsor. That's business.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

Maybe we're all just reading this wrong, but Patron is still a sponsor, and Tudor is now the title sponsor. That's business.

^ This. This is what I'm trying to say. Maybe that is the case. Sorry for the confusion.


I need learn English.

 

[Sam48]

I need learn English.

That would explain why you asked this:

Isn't Patrón there because of its tequila?

Just for future reference, asking if Patron is there because of tequila is like asking if Budweiser is there because of beer.

 

[ITCC_Andrew]

I just realized that!


I meant: couldn't it still be a sponsor, since it's not a watch company?


Anyways, any new news? I'm anxiously awaiting the official track list. Surely Mid-Ohio is on there, right?

 

[Snaeper]

I like hearing all of this "DP won't go to Le Mans" and "The Mazda 6 won't go to Le Mans" stuff. What are you basing this on? How do you know they won't go to Le Mans? It wouldn't be the first time that a US-specific car type was allowed to race there. In fact it's happened on a few occasions and usually with American cars.

1994 Le Mans

The '94 event featured the "IMSA GTS" class.

1995 Le Mans
1996 Le Mans

The '95 Le Mans had a strong showing of IMSA's WSC spec cars (which I believe might have been a global spec by that point) as a replacement for the LMP1/C90 cars from the year before. '96 Continued to feature the WSC class alongside LMP1, LMP2 and the GT classes.

I see no reason why, if there is enough interest, that the DP's shouldn't be invited to Le Mans as long as a handful commit and show up. 8 Star, Starworks are two that could theoretically make the trip.

I also wouldn't mind seeing JAF-GT GT300 cars being permitted to run, as they run in the AsLMS (soon to be ALMS?) and would break up the current monotony of the GTE-only fields of cars.... with Prius and CR-Z's... hmmm maybe not.

 

[Sam48]

I see no reason why, if there is enough interest, that the DP's shouldn't be invited to Le Mans as long as a handful commit and show up. 8 Star, Starworks are two that could theoretically make the trip.

The reason I can't see this happening is because there are 56 entry spots for Lemans. Currently, those spots belong to entrants in the WEC (about 30 cars), the ELMS (about 18 cars), and the ALMS (about 8 cars). Now if they were to allow DPs, that would mean slashing entries from either ALMS/USCR cars that are already eligible, or ELMS cars. I just don't see that happening.

 

[Müle]

This. Fine, I mis-worded it, but the point remains, he did not stay on the track.

Okay, one time. What does that prove?

He then proceded to set a time that would have been competitive in that years GP. His first ever time in an F1 car. That speaks volumes about the talent that (most) Nascar drivers have.

 

[cnd01]

I like hearing all of this "DP won't go to Le Mans" and "The Mazda 6 won't go to Le Mans" stuff. What are you basing this on? How do you know they won't go to Le Mans? It wouldn't be the first time that a US-specific car type was allowed to race there. In fact it's happened on a few occasions and usually with American cars.

1994 Le Mans

The '94 event featured the "IMSA GTS" class.

1995 Le Mans
1996 Le Mans

The '95 Le Mans had a strong showing of IMSA's WSC spec cars (which I believe might have been a global spec by that point) as a replacement for the LMP1/C90 cars from the year before. '96 Continued to feature the WSC class alongside LMP1, LMP2 and the GT classes.

I see no reason why, if there is enough interest, that the DP's shouldn't be invited to Le Mans as long as a handful commit and show up. 8 Star, Starworks are two that could theoretically make the trip.

I also wouldn't mind seeing JAF-GT GT300 cars being permitted to run, as they run in the AsLMS (soon to be ALMS?) and would break up the current monotony of the GTE-only fields of cars.... with Prius and CR-Z's... hmmm maybe not.

A NASCAR raced at Le Mans back in the day too

 

[cnd01]

The reason I can't see this happening is because there are 56 entry spots for Lemans. Currently, those spots belong to entrants in the WEC (about 30 cars), the ELMS (about 18 cars), and the ALMS (about 8 cars). Now if they were to allow DPs, that would mean slashing entries from either ALMS/USCR cars that are already eligible, or ELMS cars. I just don't see that happening.

Which is why they should open more garages

 

[hawkeye122]

Which is why they should open more garages

Have you seen the track? That front straight is pretty much maxed out on garages.

 

[RACECAR]

I like hearing all of this "DP won't go to Le Mans" and "The Mazda 6 won't go to Le Mans" stuff. What are you basing this on? How do you know they won't go to Le Mans? It wouldn't be the first time that a US-specific car type was allowed to race there. In fact it's happened on a few occasions and usually with American cars.

Now I don't know about DPs (that could be interesting), but I'm convinced we aren't seeing the Mazda 6 go to Le Mans. I'd rather see it race in a class outside of USCR as lets be honest, it will be destroyed by everything in GTD 2014. I personally think its better off somewhere in the World Challenge. Also, I'm interested in what makes you believe all the classes (as opposed to just the LMP2 and GT LM cars) would go to Le Mans as I'm pretty sure the ACO still doesn't seem willing to allow GT3 (even with FIA as their partner).

 

[FoolKiller]

There's no reason why Patrón can't be a sponsor; it's just not the main sponsor.

Riiiight. I think the point is that we expected Rolex or Patron to be the main sponsor, not a side company of Rolex.

I can't wait for the Tudor Watches United Sports Car Racing running of the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona.



Anyway, my point was, I don't care what Patrón's role is so long as they still setup their club/bar-style vendor tent. Without that, they're just another sponsor to me. And yes, I'm shallow enough to be concerned about having tequila-based drinks served to me by waitresses/models dressed as grid girls.

 

[Mac K]

Is it feasible for a DP team to run Le Mans? LMP2 is already well established in Europe and when most DP owners are complaining about the costs to upgrade their cars, etc already do you really think they'll want to go to Le Mans? Just to get all their equipment and people there would be expensive, let alone racing, etc. Besides the ACO would have to allow it first, i'm all for the DP going to Le Mans, but I just don't see it happening.

 

[Jav]

Is it feasible for a DP team to run Le Mans? LMP2 is already well established in Europe and when most DP owners are complaining about the costs to upgrade their cars, etc already do you really think they'll want to go to Le Mans? Just to get all their equipment and people there would be expensive, let alone racing, etc. Besides the ACO would have to allow it first, i'm all for the DP going to Le Mans, but I just don't see it happening.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of the big teams make the trip, all the whining and nagging is just their way of lobbying for an edge on the BoP, that's all. A lot of them are overplaying the deal to turn the table in their favor, that's the way motorsports moves on this side of the Atlantic specially on the NASCAR side of things.

 

[cnd01]

I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of the big teams make the trip, all the whining and nagging is just their way of lobbying for an edge on the BoP, that's all. A lot of them are overplaying the deal to turn the table in their favor, that's the way motorsports moves on this side of the Atlantic specially on the NASCAR side of things.

When Imsa is mixing oil and water, I can't really blame either side for complaining. The Rolex 24 this season is going to be the biggest 🤬 storm about BoP and the P class. If a DP wins, the race is rigged and NASCAR is evil and LMP2 teams/cars aren't used to actual racing. If an LMP2 wins, oh boy here we go to alms 2.0 and the DP is a POS who can't win its own endurance race. If the DW wins, the world will blow up.

 

[R0ssingt0n]

I want the Deltawing to win so bad. That would be glorious.

 

[Sam48]

If a DP wins, the race is rigged and NASCAR is evil and LMP2 teams/cars aren't used to actual racing. If an LMP2 wins, oh boy here we go to alms 2.0 and the DP is a POS who can't win its own endurance race. If the DW wins, the world will blow up.

Pretty much.

 

[TheBook]

If the DW doesn't blow up, the world will.

Fixed that for you.

Although I do think it would be awesome to see it actually win, there's almost no chance of it actually happening.

 

[Furinkazen]

Le Mans got expanded to 56 garages...

 

[Sam48]

Baltimore's Out!

Now I understand this applies only to IndyCar, but I think it's safe to assume this also applies to USCR.

 

[Mac K]

Thank god. Now as long as Kansas goes with it, we're good.

 

[Jav]

Baltimore was just stupid, really don't know what the whole point was other than goverment money...

 

[RACECAR]

Baltimore was just stupid, really don't know what the whole point was other than goverment money...

There's your answer.